If his lips are moving, it's a lie. Whatever he denies, actually happened. 

Why are all democrats so full of hate?  Can't we just be nice and respectful? 

I always love when leftists post, even baseless incendiary idiotic comments like this.  
More projection from the left.  They rely on projection.  
When it comes to delivering on an agenda and campaign promises, Trump has been the most honest president in my lifetime.  I've previously written about this in considerable detail.  It doesn't need to be repeated.  
But yes, like literally all politicians, he's lied and exaggerated....but not where it really matters.....actions and results.  That, my friends, is unique.  

I belive that mecon is referencing the rag the Atlantic and their slanderous rant about Trump today.  One rag writes an ubiased headline with no facts or actual references of dates and time.  Then the NBC news network picks it up and runs with it.....  Anything for the feeding frenzy... like little paranah they are.  Makes me

Dave... where is the emoji holding the fake news sign?

Having a bad morning? Or is this your usual self? There is medical help for your TDS.

Not for that one, short of lobotomy.

Prepare for an endless, baseless assault like this from the left wing MSM and their "anonymous sources".  Trust me, Trump is prepared for this.  They will probe and test and look for an "October Surprise".  
People are desensitized to these things.  The Mueller investigation, the "Trump Collusion" hoax, and the impeachment hoax failed....bigly.  These stories are just more of the same.  Big yawn.

Mecon I truly would like to know why you are a Biden supporter. WITHOUT mentioning Trump tell me why you support the democrats? 

Is your favorite song by Meghan Trainor? 

I might be young...but I ain't stupid...Tell me do you think I'm dumb?  

Nah...I'm voting for Trump.  His record is bigger than his mouth and that's all I need to know.

MECON and jd&ez!!!!!!!!!! Since all you two do is bash and bash Trump, How come you two never start a thread about Ole Joe Biden telling us how WONDERFUL he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How smart he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why dont one of you start a thread telling us how ole Joe is going to save us and help us from the boogeyman! All you two do is bash, tell us the good points of ole Joe, going to be checking back so I can hear all the good hes going to do for America.. So start a thread about Joe and give us the good about him..And leave Trump out of it if you can and just talk about your man Joe.

Based on the laughs you generate with your posts, I think you missed your calling as a comedian.  

Just too funny how the Leftist on here sure can start a thread about Trump but they never have started a thread about Joe Biden, Hummmm now why is that?!!!! Because they know ole Joe is really a nut case maybe?!

Key point here "without mentioning Trump". I've asked a few left wing folks this.... and the ones I've spoken to can't answer if they even support Biden's policies. Just that they hate Trump. And while I am not always a fan of how Trump represents himself, I vote based on policies. So as a right wing conservative, I ride the Trump Train!

More like any reporter from CNN or MSNBC spout nothing but lies.   Trump Train 2020.   I support life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness! 

maybe it's my trashy side, but reading comments sure are entertaining.

How much do I owe you for living in your head??

But here we go with the usual GOP'er argument, "yeah my guy is guilty as hell but so is yours". I don't why y'all think that idiotic argument works in your favor but when it's all you got, it's all you got.

As to you question, I've started a thread about your hero either. 

As for this thread, Impeached President Trump is a liar. He can't tell the truth. The most immoral man to set foot in the White House. That's just personally. As a president is a do nothing puppet of Putin. The commies wanted trump, they got trump and the GOP'er are too dumb to see it.

Instead of trying to govern trump just fans the flames of racism. His own people say he's "unfit for public office" and "immature leadership". Crooked administration from the top down. From Trump to Cohen, to Bannon, to Flnn, to Stone, etc. It just goes on and on and on. 

But you whole defense of that is, "well there's crooked democrats too". Yeah, that makes it all better in Q-Anon bizzaro world. 

Yes I know that you had started a thread about Trump earlier, {I think thats what you meant when you said either not really sure} BUTTTT, I asked why don't you post a thread about YOU'RE HERO {Joe Biden}, and tell us whats so awesome about him, you posted a thread about Trump and always making a comment about him on other threads { so he must really live in your head} and then you defend Joe but not saying Why you want Joe for President, So was asking for you are Mecon to start a thread about Joe and Leave Trump out of it and just tell us all the good that Joe will do for our country.. Now Thats your defense always saying that Trump is crooked, he's a liar, hes immoral, Now your saying that Biden is guility as hell too!!

{Start a thread about BIDEN and tell the good's on him...}

Can you name anything the Dems have done in the last 4 years that did NOT involve their hate for Trump? How have they made our lived better? 

Lets see we actually have named sources that say this did not happen.....but I am going guess who believe the lies no matter what....typical.  

I agree with Roxie - for anyone that is supporting Biden - tell us why.  (and NOT just because you don't like Trump).  I keep waiting for all the Biden supporters to actually list his qualifications & his platform & why they choose him.  Do I think Trump is a saint?  No.  And I am NOT a set Republican, I have voted both ways in the previous years.  But I have yet to see anything about Biden that tells me he would be a great leader of a country.  PLEASE do tell what his qualities are!  (again, like Roxie said, WITHOUT badmouthing Trump - leave him out of it - why is Biden the best candidate, period.)

Why should I vote for Biden? Please, do tell.  As others stated, leave Trump out of it -- just tell us why we should vote for Biden, i.e. what he will do for the country? what has he done in the past (this is the big one -- with 47 + years in Washington DC, what has he actually accomplished?)? 

I have come to the conclusion that the Biden supporters on here dont have a clue as to why they support Biden or what he can do to improve WHAT THEY THINK that needs improving/needs fixing in the USA.. They just hate Trump and they think putting Biden in the Oval Office is the answer to their hatred, So lets just put this poor old man thats got a brain issue that cant remember one day to the next into the Whitehouse, that will solve everything that they hate about Trump.. There is more then a few Biden supporters on this forum and I can name them, BUT they have never ever started a thread about Joe Biden and HAVE never pointed out any good points about him to show us what hes good for. All they ever do is start a thread to trash Trump and his family, or just hit the laugh button when they cant even come up with a answer/reason as to why they support Biden, they have not yet said why Joe is their man.. So Mecon and the other Biden supporters WHY do you SUPPORT Biden?!!!!!

Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 

First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.

I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 

I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 

The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 

We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).

That's all for now. 

Thank you!!!

The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.

I agree we have a morality problem though I'd say the cause is bigger than that. We seem to have lost our empathy for other people. I'd rather those immoral people not have access to gnarly weapons. It's risk limitation. 

I often wonder "why Biden?"  Dr. Siegel analyzed Joe's health issues.  He said when you've had two brain surgeries of the nature Biden has you're assured of having some cognitive problems for the rest of your life.  Any of us who are older know your mind doesn't function like it did when you were 35 and you can't change that.  Jill Biden assured us her husband was mentally sharp and yet we all saw her lead him off the stage when he became totally confused and got that deer in the headlights look we've seen so many times.  I dunno.  Surely there was a better candidate out there somewhere for the Democrats.  Stacy Abrams mentioned she likes ole Joe because she knows as President he can be easily manipulated.  That "ain't" what you want to hear.  If his fellow Dems can easily control him, so can foreign leaders. 

 to add:  Now Joe's former stenographer says there is definitely something wrong with him.

While I disagree with you on how those issues should be handled, you did a good job of laying out a case and not mentioning Trump. I hope you don't regret it.

I can't grasp why people think taking guns away from everyone will keep them out of the hands of criminals. All the sudden criminals will start following gun control laws? Chicago is a perfect example.

@TrackinBubba So while I do very much appreciate your taking the time to give us your reasons you are voting for Biden...I do have to comment on your position on gun control as an example.

Your stating that "The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time"  is not accurate.  I know that you know this because you reference being able to go shoot them for fun at a range.  They are not the usual/most comon weapon of choice in murders/multiple murders involving guns anyway...and they are an important tool used for hunting feral hogs that sure need to be killed in large numbers in a short period of time (among other uses).  And...even you say they are fun to shoot at a range.

Why should law abiding folks have their rights limited because you (or a group of you) figure that there isn't a valid need/purpose for that particular gun? or any gun?

Well...what if a group of folks (a majority) decided that there is no real purpose for owing a horse other than to do farm work for the amish...and that owning one for any other purpose is wasteful of grain/land/resources that could go to feed starving folks her or in poorer countries?  That you could maybe get to go ride one at a fair occasionally for fun.  May sound like an absurd comparison...but is it?

This is where freedom comes in...and why voting for the leader that will support that right to freedom is essential for us all.  Biden and the democrat party has made many statements that they will be going after various freedoms we now enjoy.  Maybe they haven't hit upon one that strikes close to home for you...yet...

Husband and I are independents. I lean conservative, he leans liberal. Both have voted democrat/republican. The complete unfair, nonstop attack President Trump has endured since 2016 has us heavy on the Trump Train. Anyone reading this thinking he has had fair reporting since taking office is absolutely insane. We are old and have been through a lot of elections. Never seen anything like this.

Thank you for telling your reason without trashing our President. Do you not have health care at all? Me and hubby dont have health insurance its just cheaper to pay out of pocket, and since Trump passed making the meds cheaper and affordable it helped out many many people. 

I dont agree on the gun control either, this is Free America and we should have what ever our hearts desire and not tolded what we can and can not have. the Dems want to take all out protection away and defund the police and that just dont fly, we need out protection and we need our police or any peace office ready to defend you and me and my family your family if ever the situation comes up..This defunding the Peace Officers is the craziest thing I have ever heard. 

Theres more but I just wanted to say Thanks, you are the first one that ever answer why you want Biden. But really do you think Biden is really the one you want to run our country if he wins? Do you really think hes got the sound mind to protect us? 

the 1% aren't just these excess millionaires and billionaires. The 1% starts at $515,000 and goes up. Those people already lose almost half in taxes and live in expensive, high cost areas and pay 40% of all federal taxes supporting citizens. $170,000-up, combined with the 1%, pay 70% of all federal taxes supporting people. The "98%" actually only pay about 20% of all federal taxes supporting citizens, and they are by far the largest demographic. I genuinely do not understand how people think a group that is hustling hard, creating jobs and already paying majority of federal taxes should pay more. If you have a problem with Amazon and Tesla, and billionaire companies not paying taxes and getting government subsidies, that's a lobbyist problem. 

It's impossible to limit gun murder. It's going to happen as long as we have any form of gun out in the public. If we destroyed every gun in the country, we'd just kill each other with knives like they do in the UK. Take away the knives, we'll beat each other to death with rocks. 

The AR-15 (and guns like it) is the gun of choice for mass shooters - I'm talking Sandy Hook, Pulse in Orlando, Parkland, Aurora, Las Vegas, El Paso. It's not the only way to kill lots of people at once but it's pretty dadgum efficient at it. Since 1999 and Columbine, just over a quarter of mass shootings used that type of gun and caused almost 40% of deaths and 69% of injuries. They're just too good at killing people. If limiting my freedom to shoot a lot of bullets really quickly saves the lives of school children and people at a dance club, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. 

For a lawful purpose (like the hog thing which I did not know), maybe we can borrow from the Australian model and require some form of permit/training/monitoring. 

Please don't take my guns, I'll need them for the revolution.

How does Biden plan to keep guns from criminals?  What is his plan to keep us safe?  Not a wish list, but a plan. 

I appreciate your reasoning, but committing murder is a crime already. These people who do mass shooting are not law abiding citizens. If these "crazies" are set on killing mass amounts of people, won't they find an ar on the black market? How would banning them keep them out of the hands of criminals? Doesn't it keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens who want to enjoy them or tire of having their entire fields ruined by hogs?

I like your point of knowing murderers will murder despite having a gun.

I don't have any concerns really about his mental state - other than I think you have be nuts to begin with to even want to be President. It's the worst job in the world. I hope that, like any President, he surrounds himself with people who are smarter than he is and listens to those people. I tell my staff at work that if I'm the smartest person in the room, I'm in the wrong room. 

Ding ding ding!! Winner winner! 

I don't want to increase taxes on your average business owner. My husband works at what used to be a small business and has grown into a bigger one in the last ten years. I see what his boss pays in taxes. It's the superwealthy at the top. They'll hire fancy lawyers and find new loopholes but at least we try.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

Basically, reinstating the assualt rifle/high capacity magazine ban, increased background checks, closing loopholes. 

I'm not sure how much of that is politically viable but I'd rather try than not. 

Unfortunately Democrats version of taking out the 1%ers also takes out the "middle 1%er".

I do not have a personal vendetta against Bernie Sanders, but one reason why I never liked him is because he's an open socialist that is a millionaire that owns 3 homes. With a 300 million population, that is not a reasonable expectation for everyone to achieve if we went socialist. I know you didn't bring him up I am just expanding on my reasoning for not liking the democrat approach to the 1%.

Congratulations.  You earned a badge of honor by triggering meep.meep and her only reflex....a laughing emoticon.  
I'm an independent and I am disgusted with the Republican establishment, so I'm still stuck with voting Republican because I don't have a realistic option of voting for anyone else who stands even a remote chance of winning.  Being conservative with libertarian leanings leaves me with no choice.
I have a hunch that a lot of people who have traditionally been Democrat or traditionally more liberal are aghast at what they are witnessing with the riots and lawlessness in Democrat-run urban strongholds.  They are amongst those who are fleeing those cities.  My daughter and her husband are also amongst them. They lived in a nice, older neighborhood in Minneapolis and were just a few blocks away from Lake Street, which now looks like Beirut after the blast.  Within a week, they contacted a real estate agent and started prepping their home for listing. Yesterday they started looking at homes in the far out suburbs in earnest.  Their home will be listed this week.  They can't get the hell out of there fast enough. They didn't like Trump at all, but yesterday she told me something that made me think he'll just froze over.....they are both voting for Trump.  
Democrats are well aware of the dissatisfaction over their radical shift to the extreme left within their party.  This is why they have masterminded the so-called "Lincoln Project", which is actually nothing more than a real-naming of "never Trumpers" from 2016.  This is a counter to something going on within the Democrat party that is new......an exodus.  The #walkaway campaign is only 2 years old and has close to 500,000 members.  That's just a sample of what's going on.

We've been warned.  We've been told by Democrats what they will do, if given a chance. If they control both houses and the executive branch here's what they promised:

1.) Green New Deal - we know what that means.  If you don't, either you don't care, or you are an imbecile, too lazy to find out, or all three.

2.) A return to the status quo with China.

3.) Revision of our history.

4.) A continuation of the advancement of bizarre ideas - anti-gender movement, toxic masculinity, reparations for slavery, white shaming, restricting political speech, and so forth.

5.) Open borders

6.) Stacking the courts with radical left wing judges.

7.) Doubling of capital gains taxes, raising corporate taxes (thereby driving corporations back offshore), and slashing the threshold for inheritance tax by half....thereby guaranteeing the further demise of family farms and ranches, and increased income tax for the vast majority.

8.) Confiscatory gun control, led by a new gun Czar, Beto O'Rourke, who promises to take them away....especially the "evil" AR15.

9.) Abolition of the electoral college, in favor of a popular vote in Presidential elections....South Dakota, Wyoming, North Dakota.....you can all go to hell, because you won't matter anymore. 

10.) Free college.

11.) Defunding the police - or funneling money earmarked for police to "community based" social workers.

12.) Continued resistance to universal "voter ID", something that practically all western civilized nations have in place, in one form or another.  Why?  We all know why, and it has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Just to name a few.  That's what we'll get, and that's their promise.

What's missing here?

1.) Healthcare reform.  Both sides are culpable and complicit in their failure to come up with a sensible set of solutions that will lead to lowering healthcare costs.  ObamaCare was a disaster and universal healthcare would be even worse.  There are solutions out there.  If ObomaCare was such a great solution, why is it that "Medicare for all" was almost universally advocated for by Democrats in the primaries?

2.) Fiscal responsibility - there is almost no such thing as a true "fiscal conservative" anymore, because a politician's career viability is inexorably tied to spending.......which brings me to this.....

3.) Term limits.  This is the most bipartisan issue out there.  Over 70% of Democrats and over 80% of Republicans and Independents favor term limits.  The rare politician who comes out in favor of term limits is probably a pandering liar.  Politicians, especially incumbents, will not vote for this.  We all know why. 

Side note.... We did NOT need health care reform - we needed TORT reform.  It's the lawyers that have sued until the insurance companies are forced into a "standard of care"  ie stay in this lane to treat these symptoms.  I don't believe the Democrat platform can get it done.  

My husband died because of government run health care aka the VA and they have no liability... Solid PASS from me.  And let's not get started on approval processes and costs associated with getting something labeled for human use.  

Super Side Note.... How is it possible with all of the Democrats out there... How in the world did they end up with an old dude with dementia and a chick that slept her way to the top?  I mean really.... there has to be a pair that's better

A government run health insurance program would be the biggest disaster ever.  Ask anyone who has used the VA or even the tri care program.  

 For the tax situation.  The wealthy who you say "hire big lawyers" to find loop holes.  Well, that is the tax code and the wealthy do have the right to use all that is available to them.  Don't you use all the exemptions you can when you file?  

I agree, that health care needs to be revamped.  It shouldn;t  be a person sitting at a desk 1,000 miles away who should be deciding your care, it should be the Dr.  

I agree the tax system need to be redone.  This means the IRS needs an overhaul.  

A flat tax would be the best thinig in my opinion.  

The biggest thing in my opinion to stop a lot of what is dragging the US down, would be term limits on the House and Senate. Just like the presidency has.  But that won't happen because no one will vote themselves out of the money they make.  Legally or illegally.   

I agree on torte reform.  Excellent point.  We might be faced with universal healthcare, unless Congress gets its ass in gear.  Here's just a start:

1.) Torte reform, as you mentioned.  My idea would not be necessarily a strict limit on awards.  I think there should be at least some risk if you are intent on pursuing a frivolous law suit.   If you and your lawyer decide on suing a doctor on the outside chance you might get some juicy settlement, there should be a law in place that you and your attorney are responsible for half of the cost of defense, in the event you lose.  I think that's sensible. No country on earth has the numbers of med malpractice cases as the US....nothing even close.  Defensive medicine is estimated to account for as much as 20% of healthcare costs.  Even if it's half that, it is immense.

2.) Open up health insurance availability across the country.  Eliminate barriers to competition.

3.) Increasing limits on HSA's.  With an HSA you have skin in the game.  That's your money and it can only be used for healthcare.  HSA's combined with high deductible, lower cost insurance will introduce free market principles. Most people with nsurance nowadays don't care what something costs, so long as it's "covered". In fact, most don't even ask, and they don't often shop around for the best deal for their money.  Since HSA's would cover the deductible $, people are going to want to get the best deal for the money.  I know, because I've done it myself.  For example, by simply picking up the phone, I saved $800 on an MRI.  It took me about 10 minutes.  HSA's also incentivize preventative care.....screenings for cancer, lifestyle, etc... People are more apt to take responsibility for their own health when money ends up back in their pocket.  A colonoscopy with removal of an early polyp can save over $10 K when compared to neglecting screening colonoscopy...and more importantly save your life.  You get my point.  Money motivates.  Also, excesses in HSA's can be rolled over into an IRA.  You own that. If you lead a healthy life, chances are you will see a significant buildup in that HSA-linked IRA.  What happens with those billions that accumulate in IRA's?  That money is invested in American companies.  That leads to growth.  That leads to jobs.  And get this....it leads to increased revenues to the fed.  Those increased revenues can go toward funding healthcare to the truly indigent.  See how that works?  

4.) Apply pressure on big pharma to bring cost of prescription meds back in line with the rest of the world.  Trump is beginning to do this, and big pharma hates him for it.  People on both sides have been financially incentivized to protect big pharma....but they can't get to Trump.  He doesn't need their campaign contributions. Almost everyone else on both sides is protecting big pharma, and we know why.  There's no earthly reason why my American blood pressure pill should cost 50 cents a pill in Canada and $5.00 a pill in the US, when it's the same pill.  People don't care, so long as it's "covered", but here's the dirty little secret on that....we ALL should care because directly or indirectly we all pay for their legalized price gouging.  

Bottom line is this.  Free market capitalism is how you get the best service, the best product, and at the lowest cost.  Robust, unfettered free market capitalism is where the answer lies. Again, term limits would go a long ways toward facilitating these long overdue changes.

I saw this on FB, sure hope it isn't correct.

Interesting how this thread turned into a meaningful discussion of current politics while the original poster Mecon abandoned comment.  Jump in here Mecon.  Are you scared?

Passing that law making it ok to be a pedophile is so SICK!!!!! What the He** is wrong with these people, the Dems just keep it coming with the wack out things they can come up with to destroy mankind.. This is the devils way of thinking and hes truly got control over the Dems, this is the devils way of destroying Gods work..Any of you people {Dems} that believe this is OK you need help in the worst way..

I heard about this last week about that law being passed..

I would love to hear the Joe Biden supporters on here what they think about that Law being passed by the Dems in California about making it legal to be a Pedophilia. So Mecon what do you think?!!!! And you others {Biden} people, come on and tell us..

I can see situations where such a law would be beneficial to some, but for a broader range not a good idea. And beneficial I'm talking about say older teenagers that are dating and have been sexually intimate or want to be. But then that sparks an entirely other parental argument I have no interest in debating. If this is true it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

As for the gun thing, if you're a good shot and good at reloading it doesn't mateer what gun you've got, you're capable of killing or wounding a large amount of people in a short time. But those that can't get a gun will find other ways. You could kill a lot of kids in a school relatively silently and under the radar with a knife or a bow, which anyone can get at a store at any time. Or borrowed from a hunting buddy. Nobody ever wants to consider what those scenrios will be like and I can guarantee you the inability of finding a gun for those people is not going to stop them from doing what they plan by other means. Banning AR's is never going to keep kids safe at school. If you go blasting kids in the school with a gun you've tipped everyone off that you're there, making your time limited before someone stops you. Given the safety measures put into place in many schools, you may not get far. But if you slink through a library, bathrooms, etc silently making quick kill shots with a bow or throat cuts, there's no sound. You can kill as many as you want for a much longer time period....we had a big discussion about this when I was in college a few years ago 

I am very impressed how everyone is actually conversing and not yelling. This is how we come together and learn from one another. 

I am very impressed how everyone is actually conversing and not yelling. This is how we come together and learn from one another. 

I dont understand this? Reason being there was a 17 year old girl that got pregnant by a 13 year old boy! Guess who raising that kid??? how is a 13 year old boy going to support any child or baby's momma?

I know that this happens all the time law or no law!  But really why would this be ok?

Its one thing for kids to fool around with kids, but an adult to fool around with kids? and 10 years is huge differnce at that age vs. a 30 year old with a 40 year old.

If you're a girl or guy who's 17 and been dating & having sex with your SO, in most places once one of you turn 18 you have to stop. Thats not fair, especially if you're both in the same gradutating class. Thats the type of situation I'm refering to. I dated a guy long ago where that lovely law forced us to break up because his mom threatened to notify police.  I'm not going to continue to date someone if we aren't allowed to be physical. Nor am I willing to be on the sex offender registry for such a thing. Now were he and I meant to be? No, but theres no reason two kids in those situations shouldn't be able to do as they please if they both consent. I also realize most kids will still do it, legal or not. But when some psycho parents find out that their precious girl got deflowered by her boyfriend of 4 years so they turn him in becasue he's 18 and brand him a sex offender, thats just wrong. I also realize every state has its own age laws, but in your example two minors having consensual sex isn't against the law, or at least not where I'm from. 

I gotcha now! lol  I understand if a 17 and 18 year old dating and so forth but not 10 year old with 10 year old or older!  If its ok for 10 year old to have sex is it ok they drink and smoke and drive???

I have heard of stories of parents being mad at the girlfriend or boyfriend of their kid and then turn the older one in for rape when they alowed them to date in the first place or live with them too.  thats just working the situation! 

I understand why they picked the age of 18 or 21 bc most kids when they graduate is 18 or older (tho I was 17) they are out of the house or semi out. 

I havent been around any 10 year old that mature enough for all this adult stuff!

I don't think that the lower aged minors would even understand what they would be consenting to.

The sex law in California above is about wether or not they have to register as a sex offender, not the legality of the actual sexual act  

His plan for 'laws' will only affect the law-abiding gun owners. The criminals will keep their guns, obtain more,  and become incredibly rich buying/selling guns on the black market. Laws have not stopped drug smuggling. Laws do not keep contraband out of prisons. There are thriving contraband businesses in just about every prison in the US. Mass murders will continue to occur via knives, bows/arrows, home-made bombs, poisons, arson, baseball bats, whatever.... if someone wants to murder, they find a way.  My first job out of college was in law enforcement.  I'm here to tell you, the evil people do not give a flyin' flip about laws.

I work for a HSA (in Canada)... so I'm a little curious on this proposition and how it works in the states. Who gives the money for a HSA? The employer?

That could be one option.  The other is an HSA that is privately owned, where your contribution is tax deductible.

Mine was privately owned.  

I agree. When my son turned 18 we sat him down and explained why he could not go out with any girl under 18. We told him about the laws and how it they could wreck his life. He always stayed away from the high school girls, even as a senior in high school. 

By supporting Biden, you're pushing for a lawless country.  I truly feel sorry for the amount of ignorance you show.  I will be praying for you.

We support THE THIN BLUE LINE,THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO US.

Here in Kansas the majority totally supports and respects law enforcement.  Without them "who ya gonna call?"  But then we're a conservative state....makes a difference.

I totally don't understand the "defunding the police"!  Who is going to keep law and order?  The thugs, gangs, mofia?  I think that used to be called the wild west didn't it.

I don't think people entirely realize what's going to happen if there's no police. If your house gets broken into, you're screwed. Nobody to go find who did it. When your family members(s) get murdered in your house/yard.street/etc it just is what it is. Clean up the body and just live with the fact that whoever did it is guaranteed to run free. Who's going to go get who did it? There will be nobody in jail because there won't be arrests made. So apparently they're all ok with serial killers, occaional murderers, drug dealers, child abusers, etc all just having no punishments. We'll be living in the Purge, but hey your tax dollars will go to something else other than feeding inmates at the local prison I guess. Since if theres no police they'll all have to be set free unless we all want to volunteer to babysit them in there

Im not gonna make you regret posting,in fact thank you for being so kind about it.

  I will however say that biden has had more time than any to do something about healthcare,and basically helped obama destroy it for the people.Its NOT affordable,he has had his chance.

  As for guns,you can take away all of them only to leave the United States in a state of disarray as nd VERY VIOLENT crimes,are you willing to vote for biden to leave your children,family and the entire United States to be violently murdered by criminals leaving us unable to protect ourselves?The AR is just a start with them

  Taxes,they are being redone,in my opinion its never been better the working class,also,do you have a 401k?any type of land or property that you may someday be left to you,or that you will leave to your family?You may as well sell it now if biden wins.ALL I CAN SAY IS PLEASE DONT DO THIS TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORKING MAN,be true to yourself,and look at what this administration has accomplished, PLEASE,FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY,JUST DO MORE HOMEWORK.

The same can be said for Biden but even worse because it is his entire campaign strategy.  Have you really listened to him or his handlers?  They can't even answer a simple yes or no question they fall back to Trump every single time and they do not even blink when spewing blatant false hoods.

How in the heck do you even know what you are getting with Biden?  He reads from a teleprompter, notes, plagiarises and does not do any of those very well.  Biden should be able to make a speech and answer questions without aids.  This stuff should be in his head after forty something years.  I have tried several times to listen to his speeches and they are painful.  All he does is throw shade at Trump.  When he tries to appear to be forceful and angry with his words toward Trump the words lack emotion because you can't prompt emotion through a teleprompter.  Don't get me started on Kamala.  She is back peddling the Russia hoax because she has nothing else.  Heaven forbid that she puts herself in a situation where she has to respond to her previous attacks on Biden.

I am sick of this entire mess and Shift is at it again with another "whistleblower" fable.  I will never ever vote for a democrat again after the last few years of money and time they have wasted at our expense.