I went to Weatherford Tx. and seen Dr. Hand.  on the xray which he has an amazing machine! and facility! Showed 6 spots touching, 3 rubbing and the 7th one which was the very end (these in the loin area) was sticking straight up.  At first he said we wont do anything with the 7th one bc not touching and he should be fine but when they called after surgery he ended up having to do something with the 7th one.  I pick him up next friday.

Many Prayers that this was a successful sugery and that the recovery goes well!

My daughter has a mare that we think she has ks.

Called Iowa state College. 

We are going to take her there. 

What was your rough cost. 

Prayers for quick and complete recovery

This is the 3rd day after surgery! I got pics of him and I am shocked at how good he looks and bright eyed!  I wish I could post a pic of his back for you all He has stitches and staples and looks like a towel stiched to his back but not a towel  Ive never seen anything like it. course not around horse surgeries alot lol  He comes home this Friday! I will know more later today.

and as far as price I dont know yet. But I know places are different and the area.  But I wasnt going to just anyone on this surgery!  I know that I picked the right place!

I think the hardest part will be not stressing over him being in a stall and messing everything up!  The vet hasnt told me what all we are going to do but I have googled and ask but like 30 days in the stall 

Horse be good for bout a week and then he runs circles in his stall and fast too! So I will be asking for something to keep him chilled!!!!

on my break ill try to post a pic from my phone on here.

Pics yet?!!!

This is the day before surgery

bout 2 weeks before the day I took him to Weatherford I injected his back and I didnt ride or do anything with him.  I have been fighting his topline and and I was losing hips, trying to find the right feed for him and ....

Pain can make a really huge difference in horses body and topline! I didnt realize how much he changed in such a short time! I'll have to dig for a pic of what he looked like before the back injections. I did treat for ulcers with Draw and Im sure that plays a part in the change.  But Ive treated him before for ulcers and didnt see this change.  When I noticed the change at the clinic I knew I was making the right decision fixing his back!

I am so guilty of this too, but I think we get so focused on feed, feet, legs, and ulcers that the neck and back gets left out!  We should really look at the whole body bc it does take the whole body to perform.

In the 2 years I had this horse I never thought to check his back!

There is just sooo many variables!

When I looked up Kissing Spine I could find what it means and bout surgeries but couldnt find much on what happens after surgery.  I dont mind updating as I go along if anyone wants me to. 
Dr. Hand told me he would tell me every step to take to the day we make our first run and how to take care of him!  I told him I dont want to wing it!  I have learned alot of exercises but I want to do the right exercises for our problem.

I will have saddle made for him  my saddles doesnt fit him anyways.  I had to give Robbie Phillips back the saddle I had made for him.  Robbie said that we will make another one for him when closer to time! That was so awesome of him!  He said we can make a saddle that will be open in the spine area not laced all the way back and we can make a round skirt maybe.  But Im going to talk to the vet bc if I fix the problem will I need to worry bout saddle if it fits him? I dont know. Actually it looks like he was cut all the way almost to his withers so may not matter anyways bout the shortness of the skirt.  I will know more when I pick him up this friday, but I am surprised he cut that far up bc it was the last 6-7 vertabraes.

Its always a new journey with each new horse I get! I never get something with the same problem that I know how to fix! lol 

Also, after his 2nd surgery which was the bone chip removal bout 2 years ago, the last vertabrae that we know now was sticking more straight up which Dr. Hand said was unusual, and my other vet said weird lol. Anyways he had a quater size hair that would stay raised up on that spot of the vertabrae, if I got him adjusted by the osteopath the hair would lay down for awhile. so I kinda judged when to adjust him which doesnt really make sense bc of the vertabrae it should have stayed up!  It never seem to bother him and Dr. Hand didnt think he have to do anything but when he got in there he ended up fixing. 

His first 2 surgeries I was there he laid down like he would in the pasture.  and got up just as easy.  They said same thing happened on this surgery too.  Anyways no one knows why that vertabrae done what it did and why the hair did what it did right after his 2nd surgery.  Be interesting to see what the hair does!

my pics are bigger on here and I can see them better!  You can see he has a scar at the end of the blue thing that is the area of the raised hair! so something happened that I dont know about and probably in my pasture or stall while he was stalled up recovering from the bone chip removal!

Aww, he looks very bright :) Hoping for a quick and easy recovery. I've never seen pics of a post surgery KS so that's pretty neat. Thanks for sharing! Keep us updated on his progress.

I, for one, would love it you documented on BHW your horse's road to complete recovery. I have a feeling that I am going to be facing this at some point in the future. Prayers everything goes as planned and your horse has a successful recovery. 

I swear he has a relieved look on his face.  Prayers continuing

that is a towel btw

I steal them from my vet everytime I'm there and keep them in my boat. 

yup! but Ive never seen one sewed up like this and used like this.  I think it comes off Friday.

Please keep us updated.  We all need to be better educated, I think Kissing Spine is a lot more prevalent than we think.

It is, both vets I go to for special issues like that say around 40% of horses have it to some degree. How they are affected by it ranges. Like my mare was fine for a long time with a 90lb rider, no issues. But I'm not 90lbs and now she shows issues. And there's multiple surgery types as well.....OP, which procedure did yours have done? Please keep us updated either way.  

The towel being stitched in his back, is it to keep the incision clean?

He shaved bones and did something with the ligament. He said bone doesn't take long to heal it's the ligament that takes a long time. 
I did talk to vet on phone today he said that there was no swelling at all! He really went on bout how there's no swelling!!! And he has a stint that supposed to stay in for 10 days. I pick him up tomorrow! He said he didn't cut all the way up towards the withers. It just looks like it bc of the stint 
I'll be the one taking everything off like the staples and stitches and the stint I think 

also he said since problem is fixed I can ride in a regular saddle as long as it's fits. 

He is home! God had his hand on the wheel! We bout was in a wreck with semi! I felt every bump in the road hope Dually didn't feel them like I did! It was a rough ride home! He did give me a look when I opened trailer door "What the crap!" Lol

He wanted to load but wasn't sure how and he just leaned back and elevated but he unloaded really nice. 

I can already tell a difference! He is dragging me to the barn! He doesn't look skinny or that he lost much! I just knew his top line would look awful. I'll post his before and after xrays later! But what a difference!!! 
also only been to the clinic 1x and when I came back they knew who I was and which horse was mine! And they knew my horse by name! Amazing facility and staff!

he did come home with the towel. It's got 2-3 more days and then I cut out and I think 2 more days later the staples comes out. I'll have to look at paper. 
he is to be stalled for 45 days I can hand walk him

he goes for recheck oct 15th

i will also post pice when towel comes off!!!

These are not all xrays but here is the before

Here the after

I think he happy to be home! No pain meds and his eye not so crinkling!!! 

I say again, relief in that eye!   It's amazing what they can do.

I pray he continues to do well.  

A friend of my granddaughters is having issues with her breakaway horse.  She started kind of crow hopping at the end of her run last year and last night it was a lot more than a little crow hopping.  This is an older mare. Her mom said they think she has KS and have done several things to try to keep from having the surgery.  My comment was which is going to cheaper, replacing horse or the cost of surgery? I know she is worried about the cost.  The concerns are obviously recovery, recovery time and cost.  

Is there an approximate cost and recovery time?

I wont/cant disclose my cost.  Im sorry but you can call whoever vet clinic and get the base price. 

I'm going to fix if I can.  It truly was a huge blessing that I was able to do this! and with the right crew!

I had seen so many people post to not try to get by just get the surgery done bc you spend so much on injections and therapies that surgery would have been cheaper and you would be glad you did.  Vet had told me that if I had not given him his history and just basing off the xrays that the only hope for him was surgery. 

I too don't have alot of money and I work 2-3 jobs and sell some stuff that I have accumlated to get what needs to be done. 

Where there is a will is a way and I am finding out how true that is!

Anyways, for me it was either fix him and giving a 95% chance of surgery  working or turn him out to pasture bc I get toooo attached.  So how could I not fix? and Time off will be worth it if my horse is going to be not hurting.  and who knows maybe I will save money in the long run bc I may not have to inject hocks and ankles again! Time will tell!

I'm too early in the game to tell you it worked, but when I seen the pics from the clinic and seen his face I knew instantly that we made the right decision! and when I brought him home and I walked him across the gavel in driveway and on the asphalt to get to the barn I knew again I did right!  He has always been really gimpy on gravel and asphalt he walks so slow that I had to put barefoot boots on him just to get to trailer to saddle but on grass he was fine.  and I thought it was just a fluke bc of being at the vet clinic a week and it being the first day home but i had to take him back the 2nd day and he is dragging my everywhere we go no matter the ground! another thing I noticed is he no longer has one back leg slightly behind him bout 6-8 inches. and he looks like he standing with even weight on all 4 legs.  He always had pretty good stride well now he really reaches when he walks!  He has always walked a couple feet behind me and now he in front of me at just a walk! So one thing bout this hand walking its going to help me get in better shape!  

I had the vet give him a shot to help him for being in the stall and the shot supposed to last bout 3 weeks. It hasnt made him dopey or anything but has taken the edge off him to be chilled while he stalled.  He wants out! and I hate that he has to be stalled for so long!

The first time I saw him poop I bout panicked! bc he kinda put all four feet together and rolled himself up like he was constipated really bad and I thought uh-oh bc of him being on meds at the vet, but his poop came out easy and it must be the ligament in the back and he just making it easier on him til he heals more. its not really a negative but thats all that I have seen so far that not normal. 

I really hope that this helps someone with their horse! 

One more thing do the xrays and now for sure dont assume its kissing spine or anything else without concrete evidence! Bc my other horse that I have been having trouble figuring out what wrong with him I would have bet money he had kissing spine bc he was doing the same thing that Dually was doing but turns out nerve damage from EPM. I know for sure that my first horse has EPM but I didnt know if what he was doing was from EPM or Kissing Spine or something else.  I would have lost that bet!   

The recovery time: Not sure yet.  Right now from vet is 45 days in stall.  His recheck in 3 weeks.  I am hoping that he rechecks so nice that he shortens the stall time! but I dont want to rush it either.  He said its not the bone that takes so long to heal its the ligament.  after the 45 days he gets stall and run for so long and then pasture. and he said probably bout 2 mths of legging him up and he will be checking him every 30 days and give me the exercises when the time comes.

My vet called Iowa State university about exrays .

She told me about $300.

If confirmed KS.

She said base price on surgery would be $900 minimum. 

I have not confirmed personally. 

How many places on spine?

Has she done very many? 

That sounds really cheap bc my bone chip surgery wasnt that cheap.  It worries me when I see that surgery was only 500-1000 bc there alot goes into surgeries! but I dont know.

Please post on what you do please  Im also interested in others experiences on this!

Last night he slipped on his front feet on a small incline but he just kept walking.  I pushed on the towel very lightly on ea hump of the towel and there is one hump that is very tender.  He wanted to roll in his stall last night but he changed his mind  so I dont know if the slip made him sore, he was able to roll on the first night which I dont want him to roll but I cant stop everything. He wants to roll in his sand so bad, He gets mad at me bc I wont let him!   I know he going to be sore Im just overthinking it! 

Tonight that towel and stitches comes off!  Ill post the pics tomorrow!

This is what my vet said Iowa state university  charges. 

They have been a veterinary college for a long time. 

I think it's part of their training program. 

Surgery is $1,500 here (out the door total), but thats for the ligament snip. Not bone shave. For the ligament snip they just sedate them like they would hocks, and do it standing. It's also always significantly less if you let a college do it, but I prefer paying the extra for an experienced specialist and not a guided student doing that sort of thing. The ligament cut is what they want to do on mine, since she's more mild than yours. But glad yours got home safely and best of luck on the recovery process!  

  Just wanted to take a moment and say GREAT JOB on taking care and responsibility for your boy:)))( Hoping all continues to go smooth for you!!!

Checking to see how things went tonight with removal of towel and stitches. . .

He handled taking stitches out like a pro! and there wasnt hardly any blood! 

Now I gotta figure out how to get them staples out.  I forgot to get the tool from vet, which I can get from my local vet.  I didnt realize that there be so many staples!  But no swelling or heat! and he still looks really good as far as weight and when we go walking he is moving really nice! and he still wants to roll so bad in his sand! he is always trying to drag me to that area and he does get a little ticked that I wont let him!

Friday is when I'm supposed to pull the staples. 

The more I'm around him the more I am so glad I did this!  Seeing such a difference to now is a wonder that I even got to ride him much less exercise and turning and backing the whole works!  He was never bad! He always tried!

By the things he was doing I would never have thought kissing spine! and the difference it would make! and we are not even doing anything yet! 

By the way I know its still early but another thing I noticed is no biting!!!

When I first got him 2 years ago he would try to nibble or bite every time you was aroung him!  He got trouble so many times (didnt matter to him)! Even from his previous owner! and he does play like that too, it wasnt all meaness.  After his bone chip was removed it was less but you still had to really watch him!

Since this surgery no bite at all!!! not even nibble!!!  I have been in his face and stuck my hand all around his mouth and nothing!!! I pulled stitches out and couple of them got stuck and I had to pull hard nothing he just looked at me! 

I never would have thought that would go away!!! I am his 3rd person and he has always been a biter with all 3 of us!

I'm really curious if the biting will stay away! lol  time will tell

If it does quit and he starts again later I will know without a doubt something wrong!!!!

That looks great!!!! And really itchy!!!! LOL...

This past Friday been 2 weeks since surgery

took staples out this past Friday. 41 of them!

He has lost some top line and in his hips. But I know it's from surgery and no exercises. His his pics from this past Friday   He doesn't look bad just not as good as the day before surgery and the few days after

Couple of the staples bothered him when taking them out but still no biting! Scary we are going on 2 weeks of no biting!!! lol

I highly reccoment getting a shot from the vet to help with being in the stall!

I didnt know/or do this with the other surgery and he ripped out the stitches bc he would run around the stall and acting all crazy! Bout 3 days is all he would take in a stall.  The vet gave him a shot of Prozac and supposed to last 3 weeks and it has made a difference!  It hasnt made him look doped up and he doesnt run in circles but just walks in circles in the stall.  Now when we go for walks he wants to walk as fast as he can or take off but very controllable. 

Maybe he not biting bc of the Prozac!!! lol

Could you explain the ligament snip procedure? Why the vet recommended it and what is supposed to help? This is all so interesting!

They cut the ligaments to relieve the pressure between vertebrae and increase the space between them. It is done sedated, but still standing up 

My horse was laid on his side.  And Dr. Honnas said that he lays them on their sides now bc who wants to have back surgery and not be asleep (he said this on a Webinar).  And he said he gets a better feel.  Mine also had bone shaved and was more intensive than just the ligament, he had both.

Everything still going good except one thing and I am sure that its probably normal at least I hope and I will be calling vet today to ask.  But when you pick up on the right front foot he hesitates and he no longer wants to roll (he has always rolled everyday at least once) and he was fighting me to roll before this past Friday and I finally get the ok to let him and now he doesnt want to.  But the hesitation is more than what it was right after surgery.  I pick his feet up to clean them.  .It is also the foot/leg that he would elevate off and on before surgery when he would pick up a lope.   

Good thing I talked to vet yesterday! lol  First of all I know he had surgery, but it doesnt make it easy to see the downs.  and we had one today.  Yesterday when I talked to vet he said its not unusal that he is a little off on one leg (by off I mean when I pick it up he hesitate, but walking great!)  and main thing is any swelling or heat.  And he said some horses will show nothing as far as pain and then there is some that shows alot.

Today when walking he wanted to roll and since vet said it was ok I let him.  He got bout 1/2 way down and then he tried to get back up and did struggle and then once he got up he wouldnt put any weight on the right front and he tried to take a couple steps forward and couldnt put any weight on it. then he just spread all four legs and kinda hung his head and had a look on his face!  My heart did drop! and was so mad that I let him try to roll! but then after a few seconds he straigtened himself up and took a couple tenative steps and then walked a couple normal steps and starting eating grass like nothing happened! and he was able to walk the rest of the time just fine.  I really think that if he had gotten down Im not sure if he would have been able to get up! Maybe it just felt really weird to him.  I dont know but it wasnt pretty!

I go to get recheck next Friday.  I am going to ask him some questions like when was the last day of his pain meds and is that why he was able to roll the first day home in his stall and thats why he cant roll now bc meds wore off?

Since the ligament was snipped what happens to ligament next? 

I am calling tomorrow to ask if I should be walking more or just let him eat grass.  He getting where he just wants to eat grass and doesnt care if we walk.  I dont know if he should be walking so we using some muscles or if its just to get out of the stall a bit. 

So if you guys have any questions that you want to know or that I should ask tell me!

We have not talked to Iowa State yet. But when you go back.  Ask them What if I don't have a stall to put one in for recovery.  Can I just leave her in a small pasture by herself.

With that type of surgery I would stall. Since you dont have a stall I would buy some portable panels and a make smaller area/pen.. 

When I went to pick up horse he said that he didnt want the horse moving alot.  and had to be put in stall for at least 45 days.  He said that the ligament is what takes so long.  I dont know for other horses, but when I first got home he wanted to run and kick up but he also realized now that he not ready for all that! He is very protective on what he does now! but he still moving really nice!

I have 14 16 ft corral panels  but not a building to put her in. 

We might have to wait till next summer to have her operation as we are in northern Iowa. 

I talked to vet yesterday bc the right leg when you pick it up and raise it to clean foot out he winces and we noticed that he has a bulge that shouldnt be there at the top of shoulder when you pick it up.  we think that he may have his shoulder out of whack so thats why I called vet yesterday and got the ok to take to chiro, but to make sure that he is really easy with him!

The chiros I go to is really gentle anyways and was able to get into one tomorrow night. and then he goes sees the vet on Friday for his recheck! 

I cannot believe it has been almost 30 days the 18th!!!!

His eyes still soft and he still moves really nice! and he is still handling the stall really nice too!

I forgot to ask again bout what we do at recheck! guess I'll find out Friday!

and I did ask him bout the ligament, he says it will grow back together.

Also, the stall is just to keep him from running and hoping he doesnt buck in stall.  But you can walk however long you want too.  He can walk all day if I wanted to walk him that much as long as he doesnt jump around and be stupid.  But since the shoulder thing (which I think he did it backing out of trailer and trying to roll and got himself in a bind) all he wants to do is eat grass he doesnt care if he walks. 

Also the bumps from the stitches and surgery are lots smaller!  some are completely gone! 

cant wait for recheck!

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Sorry! I was having trouble posting earlier and I guess I lost post!

I was not able to see Dr. Hand bc he was in surgery but I did see a lady vet but I dont remember her name.

The good news is that they xrayed his back and he doing really good! not sore in back and his xrays look like they supposed to.  There is some small changes but they said that is completely normal. 

Bad news is that his knee is extremely sore when you pick it up to bend it. 

He has a bone chip/shard that is attached to the back of the knee.  Vet says usually its the ligament that is painful not the bone.  and to see how much damage or any would need to do MRI. which I have no money for.  She said that normal protocol is stall rest and injecting.  She also said that surgery really not an option bc back of the knee the prognosis is not very good.  Which in this horses case I wouldnt do the surgery if it was any optiong so the MRI would be out of the picture anyways.    In his case the injection would be the upper joint.  so again it proves to xray before you inject bc the normal is injecting the bottom joints.  Without xrays we wouldnt know to inject the tops.  this is good to know when he starts running again.

I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE!  Any surgery comes with alot of risks and this is just one of the things that happened.  I dont believe he got the bone chip but I do believe he got the damage/inflamed ligament from the lifting on and off the surgery table bc I did his feet 2 days before surgery. (I do myself) and he had no problem letting me do the feet and he had no problem loading in trailer. 

When I picked him up after surgery he walked like a million bucks! but he couldnt put any weight on his right front leg (chip) to load in trailer.  I thought it was bc he was sore from the surgery! I wish I could rewind time and went back into the clinic and say hey he cant put weight on the front leg.  Then I could have already started treating the leg instead of 30 days later!  I'm hoping that it is inflamed only from the surgery bc of the way they lift them up to get to the table.  But Ill be honest I'm afraid that more damange is done from the lifting than just inflamed.  He is worse on the knee as time goes on and he had been in the stall for 30 days already. 

The vet said another 30 days in stall and I did message Dr. Hand and he said minimal walking for 2 weeks just let him graze.

I will do runners relief, icing, and my respond leg piece. and of course PRAYING!

If he doesnt get over the knee he will be done and be a pasture pet.  But I'm not giving up yet!

I hope this helps someone! I know I learned a valuable lesson! If I ever go thru a surgery again and something not right I'm not going to assume its from surgery.  and If I know they have bone chip to be sure and let surgeon know, which in this case we had no idea. 

Look into Noltrex for injecting his knee. Try the normal steroid first to get the swelling down but if he needs injecting again, I'd highly recommend noltrex. My gelding is trying to grow himself a new knee and I've been able to keep him sound this way. 

Thank you! I will!

Keep your chin up and stay positive. 

Prayers from Tennessee!

I went this past Friday and met Dr. Hand for checkup.  Good news is his back is awesome! no pain anywhere!  I will post pics either tonight or tomorrow.

Dually is lots better on his knee.  Dr. Hand says knee has quite a bit arthritis.  Some of it old and some is new.  said that he does need another surgery. to do acuscope and clean it up.  or we can inject the top and bottom and hope that it works.  Said some do ok some dont with the injections with what Dually has.  I cant do another surgery on this horse.  He did say if I decide to we would need to wait 30 days.  I went ahead and did the injections and I am going to put my respond leg boot on knee every day.  Because we injected he is to stay in stall for 7 days and then he can have stall and paddock for 3 weeks and then I can call him and we will do a phone/video consult. and thinks we will probably be able to turn out full pasture for 30 days and then we will start rehab with riding.  Which he will give me riding instructions when the time comes. 

Last week Dually broke out of stall on me! He ran and ran for 5-10 mins.! and would not let me catch him til he was bout out of breath! He bucked and reared (only 1/2 way up! He used to rear all the way up when he feels good before surgery! So I'm sure the back not letting him go all the way up yet!)  He never took a lame step! or show any knee pain! and he moved so nice!  Course he didnt do any sharp turning.  I think he is rolling in his stall bout every 5-6 days bc I see shavings on his back on one side and he seems more sore on the knee the next day or two and then gets better knee wise.

Since his break out, he has been able to let me pick his feet now! and ea day I could been the knee more and more.  Yesterday I was able to do his front feet for the 1st time since surgery! He is barefoot.  Now he is able to hold his weight more on the knee when I pick up the other feet. 

Glad to read a good update on Dually! 

Here's pic of back.  I got turned him out in small area for bout 10 mins. He moving pretty good! He can rear 3/4 way now! And he can roll!!!! He rolled like 4c! Not 100%  but huge improvement!  He doesn't have very good top line and has lost his roundness of butt   His haircoat not great right now bc I need to worm him and he on epm treatment and with everything he been going thru I didn't want to do everything at once on him.  

Poor baby, so gald that hes got a good mommie to take care of him

I talked on phone to Dr. Hand right after christmas and got the ok to turn out in pasture!

Dually doing really good! even with the knee!  He is running and bucking and rearing and rolling!  He is also no longer elevating when he takes off into a run!

So first week of February I walk (I can ride or lunge)

2nd week I can add trotting and then I call to check in with Dr. Hand.

But basically work on legging him up and do what he can handle.

He doesnt have a protocol to follow as far as exercises or legging up.  and I message Dr. Honnas and he says the same just leg him up.

I have been to a rehab facility for bout a month with another horse of mine and will incoporate what I have learned from there. 

If anyone has legged one up from this surgery please share what you did

Dually still have the bumps going down his spine. and he is not sore at all in his back!

It looks like he starting to fill in topline a little but he so fuzzy it may be just the hair.

Your post is so encouraging to me.  My gelding will be having surgery with Dr. Honnas the first week of March for kissing spine.  I'm thankful the problem was discovered and my gelding will have a better life!  It's a 14 hour drive for me to Texas but will be well worth it.  Thanks for the updates! 

your more than welcome!  and please update on yours! 

Praying for great results! 

I dont regret it at all!!!!  The difference in Dually is so amazing!  even with the knee lol

Also his biting is still gone!!!!  every once in a while he will nip but its a playful thing!  I can brush him on the right side without him trying to bite or nip!  it didnt matter if on neck back or butt!

I have lunged him bout 2x now. He feels amazing! And so much forward movement!!!  
supposed to walk for a week and then trot the next but he don't want to walk   He wants to long trot and lope! Since I'm not on him I let him do what he feels like doing! 
I think sometimes we can go to slow on rehabbing and too fast too! I decided to let him decide. So far he not sore and the knee not bothering him! 
I will lunge him this week and next week I'll add saddle and lunge. And then the 3 rd week I'll crawl on him! As long as he doing good. Here some pics. It was raining and he was wet so thought it would show his back better

You're such a good momma.

I know its been awhile since update! we have had bad weather as most knows! Im in OK.  and I got new job! and building fence!  I have been trying to do something with Dually!

So far I have been lunging him when I can and I got on him for the first time last Saturday!!! I was sooo nervous! He was such a poo head on ground and while saddling bc he feels soo good! lol  But when I sat on him he changed and was sooo good and did whatever I asked!  He can back up several feet no problem!  He can side pass!!! He can even counter arc!!! Ive only been able to walk right now! 

Only got to ride 3x and when I went to saddle last night my latigo has a rip in it! ugg so my saddle is getting oiled today and new rigging on it! and its going to rain so be a couple days before Im back on!

Still amazed at the changes in him and how well he moves!!! I know its at a walk but there is a difference! and he wants to go so much faster! His head down even where it needs to be walking he no longer like bunched up when we walk if that makes sense.  To be honest never bother me that way he carried his head just that that was his style! He never did hollow his back.  its hard to explain. sorry

Anyways I'll post another update next week or two he ready for trotting and loping!

Yay!  Thanks for the update!  My gelding had surgery with Dr. Honnas in Texas on March 1st and is still in the stage of stall rest for another week.  Stitches came out yesterday with the staple in a few more days.  My gelding is young and only had about 60 rides on him last year as a two year old.  I hope to get back on a training schedule when he is healed.  Keep the updates coming, I look forward to them! 

Great news, always love hearing good updates.

My filly had KS surgery end of January. $2400 out the door including 3 day after care hospitalization and meds. She had 2 spots touching and one in front and behind those 2 spots that were close. My bet doesn't stitch the towel to the back bc he said it pulls the skin making it more painful. She's recovering nicely and standing square all the time instead of with a back resting leg.