my sis has bought a outdoor tv for this  its party on the patio. it will be a sh.... show  

i read some articles on what a good debater joe was and how laid back and easy going   staid with facts  but has never gone up against a serial liar

its hard for me to understand that since day 1 they have tried every way to destroy him.  he noty perfect but dam

any way it will be.....

When is the debate taking place? 

Let me say I would never comment on someone's grammar or the way they type.  I am the worst, my brain overloads my fingers more often than not.  However I just saw this on facebook and thought it was worh sharing here. 

Dear people who type in all lowercase,

We are the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Sincerely,

Capital Letters

To keep it on topic, I can't wait to watch scary grandpas answer the questions.  

Since Joe has been in the Senate for 180 years, and knows lots of influential people, I wonder if he'll be endorsed by some of the old-school Democrats such as Woodrow Wilson and the Nathan Bedford Forrest?

When? Tuesday, Sept. 29, from 9 to 10:30 p.m. ET. 

Where? Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland. 

Who's moderating? Chris Wallace, anchor, Fox News Sunday

What are the topics going to be? Wallace selected the following topics:

• Trump's and Biden's records
• the Supreme Court
• COVID-19
• the economy
• race and violence in U.S. cities
• the integrity of the election

Will there be more debates? Yes

• Oct. 7: vice presidential debate between Vice President Pence and California Sen. Kamala Harris
• Oct. 15: second presidential debate
• Oct. 22: third presidential debate

Thank you for the dates..

So my question: Why in the He** Chris Wallace?!!! He hates Trump!!!!

This morning Joe Biden refused to take a drug test.  Dr. Siegel was asked if there are drugs that would enhance Joe's cognitive capability for a limited time and he said absolutely.  "Speed" can be a great help and he provided the name of a drug called Adderall.  It's for attention deficit disorder.

Jill Biden went ballastic when Jake Tapper of CNN asked about Joe's many gaffes......and I do mean ballistic.  She would not address this at all. We all saw you lead him off the stage when he became so confused he couldn't speak, Jill.  MSM wouldn't show his many recent senior moments but FOX did and WOW.

Sorry, I thought she was one of the Dem Trolls on here.  I shouldn't have been so hasty.  

I am far from being a fan of Chris Wallace but I thought he did well in 2016 and I have seen him be really tough on the BIden team, even Pelosi this year.  He also said a few months back that Biden needed to answer tough questions just like Trump.  He praised Trump for his willingness to answer questions and the fact that he had answers.

Again not a fan but I like to follow Wallace.  It is like watching a train wreck, I can't turn away. lol  I am either going to hate it or appreciate it.

Hasty?How about nasty, shes been on here since 2005,is paralyzed, take alittle time to get to know some people,geeze.It must be hard being a perfect man.

  An apology to HER would be nice.

I saw that.  She was off the chain as if how dare Tapper ask that.  I have little respect for Jill Biden and there are times she has trouble concealing her facial expressions over Joe's gaffes when they are side by side.

A question like that comes as a total surprise when liberal meets liberal.   She obviously wasn't ready for it so went off the rails a bit. 

lol  i tried dragon speak  iits for really high quads but.... my mouth can get ,,,, rank  so we decide best not use that now i could for kicks and giggles

give you all a great laugh  dut dave and gail might ban me..    but there has got to be a app out there  that would  help

i am open........

I had no clue that you was in an accident until this thread!  kudos for not quitting life! I can tell by your posts!  Your responses and posts never bothered me. 

I can tell what you are saying and what you mean!

To be honest I was always curious why your words where like they was but I figured maybe you just challenging us! lol

KEEP CHALLENGING US!

Biden should agree to take a drug test as long as trump agrees to be hooked up to a lie detector during the debate. That should settle that. Then trump will say he never mentioned a drug test and the trumpers will fall in line and say, "yeah, fake news. our god never mentioned a drug test". Then trump can attack an old lady right on the stage and then say he didn't do it. The trumpers will fall in line again and say, "more fake news from the deeeep state bogeyman, our leader didn't attack that woman, fake camera angles. But if he did attack her she had done something bad in the past so she deserved whatever he didn't do to her". Then the Q-Anon, Alt-Right whack jobs could say "we been knowing this was gonna happen. Been telling you since 2016. Dark to light, dark to light"

If I could advise Biden it would be to have no debates and to not even campaign. Just let the impeached clown keep making a fool of himself. Trump is the best campaign present that Biden could ever hope for. I wouldn't even go after impeached president trump on his fake finances and not paying taxes. Just let trump continue to tell a different story everyday. But if Biden has to show up for debates I would advise him to concede his time to Trump. Just let trump run around the stage like the clown he is and saying clown things. Trump will debate himself. Just let him talk. He will disavow everything he said 10 minutes prior. It would be funny if he wasn't taking our country down the drain with him.

Complete jibberish from you here...It would be comical if it were not for the fact that you may actually vote.

Interesting....Biden camp not only wouldn't go for the drug testing but today refused an earpiece check.  So drugs and earpieces are both on the table for ole Joe. 

no biggy  i do type terrrible   but if someone new a grammer app i would love it

i do not get my pant in awad rarely

my horse fell in alley way 2001 freak accident  cracked my neck crushed bones in face and mouth so now i a quad c6c7

it was a freak deal  no a helmet would not have helped

Right! There you go trumper!! Attack me personally. That's OK, I know it's all you have. Maybe one day you will grow up and learn to have your own opinion? Until then just get your ideas spoon fed to you from the Q-Anon, Alt-Right idiots of the day. 

Again, Biden should agree to a drug test as long as trump agrees to be hooked up to a lie detector. But why would he care anyway? The trumpers don't care that trump can't open his mouth without lying. 

Trump is 120 years years behind the times. Or so we thought? He's a modern day McKinley. Bought and paid for Presidency. Problem this time is invisible Pence is no modern day Teddy Roosevelt to save the day. 

@ jd&ez: I CAN'T DECIDE WHICH IS MORE ANNOYING...a diarrhea attack at a slow railroad crossing, or you.

Not only is Biden refusing to be checked for an ear piece he has asked for 30 minute breaks and twitter is talking about how Biden has been given tonight's questions in advance. This didn't work out so well when Brazile shared debate questions with Hillary, Hillary still lost. 

I can't decide if this is funny, pathetic or what but I have decided some of their supporters - Biden, Harris have reached their limit on stupid.

What a clown show I am embarrassed for the american people.  No one won this debate, they both acted like children.  I have watched a lot of debates in my time but no President has ever acted like him.  Man I miss Obama or anyone who can relate to people.

Can't wait till they answer questions from people...... that should be interesting.

I sure hope in the vice presidential debate they act more presidential.

ETA:  I think shock collars for lying and interupting should be on for the next debate.

D Trump is a NARCISSIST    He is a BULLY.      He is an AWFUL person.    This is not abour R vs D.   This is about a BULLY vs a very Civil Man.

both were rude   common courstey but biden   was clearly off center ND OUT THERE. he definelty is not all in his mind

wallace is so bias  and trumo is correct is the democrat run states cities that are on fire.  . question  electric cars where you get electricty  coal

nutty as a fruitcake  the green deal those are tech job got to have a education  not a college degree but know how

trump is correct on wildfires  yu have to manage your forest

it was a **** show  

Really?  And wasn't it Biden who told the Pres to "shut-up" and called him a liar and a clown?  How is that civil?

The debate didn't look good on any of them including the moderator.  The left saw Trump as a bully and yep Trump was Trump. Not once though did Trump call Biden names or tell him to shut up.  Biden called Trump a liar, a clown, a racist and told him to shut up!  Just because Biden spoke more softly he doesn't deserve a pass on his behavior either.  Biden has an ugliness in him that is creepy. 

Either or again they all behaved poorly.

Joe Biden lost the debate.  He refused to answer the question when asked if he'd support doing away with the filibuster and packing the court.  He said he didn't support the Green New Deal but every suggestion he made about climate change i.e. killing off the coal industry, electric cars for everybody, refurbishing millions of buildings so they'd be more energy efficient........follow exactly what AOC's original plan was.  I remember it well.  Bet Joe doesn't. The whole thing would cost trillions.   

Joe also got caught on throwing cops under the bus.  Trump did what he had to do because he was fighting the very liberal Chris Wallace and the very slow and angry Joe Biden.   

Did you catch the part where Joe suggested we pay billions to foreign countries to clean up their air.  That was an Obama deal that he was trying to do with China.  Pay now, clean up your air later.

Trump is NOT the BULLY!!!!! Hes so sick and tired of being Bullied hes firing back at the ones that are the Bullys. You people have been nipping at his heels like a dam Chihuahua before he became President and you people have not let up on him at all!!!!! Whats he suppose to do, sit there and let you people keep at him and he not say a word, I dont think so hes got all the right to fight back. Hes not the wimpy old man that will sit in his basement wishing all the bad people to go away like Creepy Joe.. You People have made him stronger and toughter, Hes become a great Body Guard For America. I want a strong and tought man to run our country not a weak minded man that hides in his basement. 

TRUMP is our Body Guard of AMERICA!!!!!

How do they decide who the moderator is for these debates? 

There is another Presidential debate in a couple weeks, right? 

The Commission on Presidential Debates select the moderators, they are a private non-partisan organization that has sponsored all the debates since the 80s 

Vice Presidential Debate Oct 7

2nd Presidential Debate Oct 15

3rd Presidential Debate Oct 22

So other than you think President Trump is a clown... What policies being presented by Joe Biden and the Democrats do you support and why? Let's hear what you have to say outside the main stream media.  

I'm so sick of hearing about the President; he's a liar, he's a clown, he's a bully, he's a racist, yet not one democrat can actually say how his policies have effected them negatively or will affect them. You haven't said why you don't support Trump based on policies, yet want to come on here and claim that anyone that supports the republican party can't form their own opinions.

A few reasons why I won't be supporting Biden/Harris: 

I do not agree with Bidens tax plan:

He's going to raise the tax revenue by $3.05 TRILLION dollars by raising the taxes on the rich - the governement can't balance their budget as it is but we're going to give them more control... 

It will reduce the GDP by 1.47%: the result of a negative GDP is a declining wage growth, higher unemployment, decline in retail sales - The only way to offset those is for the government to reduce it's spending, however he's going to expand the Affordable Care Act, Extend unemployment, give over 640 billion to ensure housing for low income families, 70 billion to HBCU's, he's going ot invest over 170 billion into Puerto Rico, he's going to invest 750billion in higher education.... SPEND, SPEND, SPEND and shut down the US because of CoVid

Trickle down economics work to stimulate the economy(Ronald Reagan) and that's what we need right now after this pandemic. Not higher taxes and policies that stagnate it. 

I do not agree with Bidens Health Care Plan:

It will add a 850 billion to the deficit, drug pricing will continue to increase, private insurance will be destroyed, and I believe that quality of care will be impacted based on age & condition. I am also pro-life and can not support late term abortions. 

I have not seen an immigration plan that I feel is a solution to our immigration issues. 

I do not support the BLM & Antifa movements and can't believe that Democrats are sitting back watching these people destory livelihoods. 

Minority communities are effected by poverty, poor educational systems, and Democrat leaders. These leaders are more worried about their own pockets, that they are not investing in the communities that have voted them in. They continue to perpetuate race issues in order to avoid the real issues of education funding, economic growth, crime, etc.  

I do not support defunding the police

What did he lie about? 

I think Biden is very PATHETIC, why in the he** did he use the death of his wife and son in his ads? So he could get sympathy? I say PATHETIC!!!!

Thank you!

I knew about the VP debate next week. It's only a couple hours from me but when I tried to get tickets the page was blank. . .I bet it's spectatorless. . 

Have you ever had your jaw broken?

Asking for a friend.

It's my understanding the next one is a Town Hall.  Unless there's a bunch of lying dog-faced pony soldiers there, it should be more civil.

Just so you know, at least every other president we've had has been labeled with some sort of psychiatric disorder.  When you think about it, doesn't it make sense?  Who in their right mind would want that job? Both Bill Clinton and Barack Ibn El-Hussein Talib Obama have been labeled with narcissistic personality disorder.  I couldn't care any less about Clinton's narcissism than I could care about his Peyronie's Disease.  If you bother looking it up you will run across an endless list of articles that speculate on the mental health of not past presidents.  Normal sane people would not even consider the job of president.  Thank God for mental illness in our military leaders and generals too.  Generals like Patton and McAurthur were mentally ill....narcissistic they say.  Speculation on Trump's narcissism is nothing new.  What is new is we have a president who gave up the life of a multibillionaire to put up with 4 years of an unimaginable hell.  He is unique in the sense that when he eventually leaves office he will have lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Nobody has sacrificed so much, financially, to serve in such a hellish job. 

Ah, yes. The good ol' threatening violence when somebody does not support unethical policies and proves to be of higher intelligence.

Choose me

PLEASE

Source?

Typical Democrat.... You ask them to support their views with policy issues and you get crickets!!! 

The best solution that I have heard for the NEXT debate .....

Put both of them in a box. A soundproof box where the moderator can regulate the microphones and what the contestants can hear.

If a television quiz show could do it, so can the Commission on Presidential Debates.

This last debate was a horrendous debacle !!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry and I appreciate the well thought out post you posted earlier.

Trying to post opinions or thoughts on this board and not being a Trump fan, is sort of like his debate.  I see why you all like him so well.  If is was a rainy day and I had nothing better to do I would give it a try.  However it is beautiful here and I just have to enjoy this day.

That's a total cop out and you know it! You could have just as easily replied to each one of my points and given your opinion on it. It makes me wonder if you actually agree with me but don't want to admit it. 

If people can't take the time to have intelligent conversations, you can't take the time to try a share a different view point, how do you expect change? Condemning those that don't agree with you but not providing alternative ideas, doesn't do anything but prove you are just as bad as them.

I'll tell you what.  You look and post what you find here.  If you can't find anything, then I will post several sources here.  If you are not in the mood to search Google or if you are lazy, then just let me know, and I'll find you several sources.  Fair enough?

Just let me know.  If we don't hear back, I'll assume you couldn't find anything or didn't bother trying.

Or....you can take my word for it.

Do you think they'll do this?  If not, why not?

Who threatened violence?

I, personally, think it would be a great solution ...... they couldn't interrupt each other ...... It is really a shame that drastic measures would have to be taken for two "adults" to debate ...... Like my friend said...If this was a high school debate, they both would have been sent to the Principal's Office ...... LOL

That’s not how the burden of proof works. The one who makes an outlandish claim is responsible for backing it up, and your claim certainly is outlandish. 

Take my word for it.  This isn't a court of law.  I don't have to prove anything.  I've seen it.  If you want to call me a liar, prove it.

Birds are government drones sent to spy on us. Take my word for it, and prove me wrong. That’s your logic.

No, this isn’t a court of law, and you can do what you want. But you have proven that you are not a reliable source and lack the mental integrity to be taken seriously. Therefore, you can only be considered a source of cheap entertainment. 

Ahhh, so I pushed a few buttons in you, I see.  I have a feeling that most people have thought I was a good, reliable source of information.  Your ad hominem comments don't bother me.  Hold on, I'll fetch something to back up my claims, since you are too lazy to even try.

By who's standards are his claims outladiish yours? Really and your degree is from where? 

Thank you. That is all I wanted- sources to back up your claims. Not sure why asking for proof made you so angry, but at least you’re doing the bare minimum.

Well ****, that makes the all the news/media sources invalid. Guess ya'll better figure out some legit sources of information then 

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/presidents-mental-illness/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16462555/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201602/study-half-all-presidents-suffered-mental-illness

Typically media outlets do hold the burden of proof. If they can’t prove a claim, then I have no reason to consider them reliable. 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201610/narcissism-and-the-us-presidency

Thank you for these. I found this study interesting- I can see why a president would have depression and/or anxiety, it’s a tough job! It does not substantiate your claim as I think you believe it does, but I’m very intrigued. The Psychology Today article is actually citing the study that you listed second.

The first source is from a right-wing opinions outlet, and is not reputable. But the second two, even though they are linked, are very good. ??

Those were randomly chosen.  I'm not writing a treatise just to debate.  I think I've made my point.  Tell me about your experience and/or expertise in the field of mental health, if you don't mind. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/11/14/the-most-narcissistic-u-s-presidents/

I have asked the Dems on here many times to tell us what is so special about Joe to tell us why hes their man, what will he do to make our country better then what Trump has done already, the Dems always seem to dissapear when asked this question except for one lady and thats TrackinBubba she answered in a very nice matter, and I truly respect her for her answer. I really think that the Dems on here really dont know why they love Biden, they hate Trump so much they dont care who or what they are voting for they just dont want Trump to win again. Trump has done so much for us in his 4 years and give him another 4 years and its going to be WOW look at what this man has done for us. Trump is a strong man and he dont take $hit off no body... Looking at Trump and then Joe up on that stage the other night of the debate it was WOW Joe looks so sick, weak, frail and lost againstTrump. How could the Dems want such a weak, frail and sicky man for their President? There is no way Joe can stand up for our rights against any other country that wants to destory us. 

I have asked the Dems to start a thread about Joe and tell us all the goods on him but they wont because they cant, they dont know why. All they know how to do is Trash Talk About Trump!!!!

  I hope they realize they are actually voting for KA MALA,lol.

I don’t like Biden.

I have none. That’s why I cite sources from experts, who do.

The two brain surgerys that Biden has had, does anybody think that this could be the reason he loses his train of thought and his slower speech and why hes so frail looking? Everytime I see him on tv he just keeps getting sick and frail looking more and more. 

Fair enough.  I'm not a mental health expert either, to be honest, but I do have a fair amount of experience treating people with mental illness.  And here's the deal.  A real professional practitioner who is an expert in the field will not make a diagnosis of a psychiatric condition based on snippets, tweets, and videos.  They require an in-person real-time evaluation to make a real diagnosis.  Oh they can speculate and guess, just like the rest of us, but the notion of someone making a diagnosis without seeing someone in person is not ethical.  A few months ago there was some article where some 300 mental health professionals claimed Trump was mentally unfit. That got a lot of attention, but people don't realize there are over 30,000 psychiatrists in the US and another 160,000 psychologists.  

See how that works?

Then they’re making an unsubstantiated claim because they hold the burden of proof, and they lack concrete evidence. The mental health experts close to Trump are another story.

Who are they?

The 300 mental health experts you mentioned.

And how are they "close to Trump?"  By the way that letter was from 2019 during the impeachment push.

How many examined President Trump?

That’s my point. They don’t have evidence if they never examined him. But the mental health experts who have do have credibility.

Biden has so many hairplugs he has his hair done at a tire shop.

You didn't answer my question.  How many of those experts actually examine him in person?

It's obviously a rhetorical question.  We all know none of them did.  No matter how credible they are, they cannot diagnose or treat a psychiatric patient without actually evaluating them in a clinical setting.  If you have a kidney transplant and call me up with a list of symptoms and signs, I can guess if you are experiencing rejection, but no credible transplant surgeon would treat a patient for rejection without an in-person evaluation.  If I did that, there's a significant chance of error, regardless of my credentials, and that would be malpractice.

I know reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but hopefully you understand that you are regurgitating what I just told you.

Nice try.  I'm not going to take the bait.  I'm not going to flatter you by suggesting you actually believe what you say. 

In the case of the "experts" having credibility, where Trump is concerned, they have little credibility, precisely for the reasons I stated.  They have conjecture....that's it.  75% of mental health professionals are Democrat.  It's not a stretch to assert that their political leanings have figured into their "diagnosis".

Would you rather I be more candid?

Any health expert is not going to get anywhere if they mingle politics into their careers. But higher education does correlate with more left-wing viewpoints, you are correct about that. 

So are you saying Liberals are more intelligent than Conservatives?

Are you a liberal?

This has been researched, and it has been concluded that there is definitely a correlation between lack of intelligence and conservative ideology. Correlation does not always equal causation, and I have been unable to find proof of causation in that department. 

Liberal, left-wing, ANTIFA, call me what you want I guess.

Who concluded that?  How did they arrive at this conclusion?  What were the criteria?  
Just curious.... do you support Antifa?  Do you consider yourself a liberal?

Dr. Gordon Hodson and Dr. Goali Saedi Bocci have studied and/or written about this, to name a few. Here are a couple of articles. I find them very interesting. 

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

(note: Dr. Bocci does refer to Dr. Hodson’s study as a source in the second listed article.)

I suppose I do consider myself liberal. As far as being antifascist, I am and support people with the same idealogy. My dad’s family especially has been Antifa for hundreds of years.

Crazy lefts??? Crazy is suggesting a dangerous pandemic is coming and telling the country its just a flu that will be gone in days, in spite of knowing how dangerous it really is. Bat**** crazy is telling people to inject themselves with disinfectant. Sheer lunacy is not setting the example of wearing a mask when surrounded by others. Insanity is holding indoor rallys during a pandemic and insisting audience members don't mask up.

Racist is telling the racists to "stand by". 

Anyone that watched that debate and thinks trump came out ahead is a complete brainwashed idiot. The man made a fool of himself and our country. Biden is right that trump is the worst president in history. He fiddles away while the country is in a pandemic and just lies about it. While the country is at war with itself over racism he just fans the flames to widen the gap. 

He lies about his net worth which is the real reason he won't release his tax returns. The fact that he doesn't pay taxes is just another disgrace. And his debt? He is beholden to many of our enemies that could call that debt at anytime. 

He bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political foe. He is the puppet of Putin. The comies wanted him, they got him and they want to keep him. 

The tax cuts for the rich will have to paid for by future generations. 

And trumpers look at their idiot and question someone else's sanity?? WTF is wrong with you people?? Have you not a shred of common decency?? I can answer that! No, if you are a trumper supporting a lying, racist, bigoted sexist then no, you don't have a shred of common decency. And you are probably a communist too? The commies want him. The racist want him. The bigots want him. The sexists want him. If you want him that's your crowd. And you have Faux News to spead your support! 

If you are talking about Trump telling the multi racial group Proud Boys to stand by, their black Cuban chairman Tarro has already publicly said they understood Trump to mean stand down and let law enforcement do their job.

I wonder which definition of meep meep, Meep Meep relates too.  They all seem fitting especially the cult like shout among friends

OK so you support Antifa.  That tells me a lot.

There are very differing views about what intelligence is. It always has been somewhat controversial.  Surely the psychologists in the studies you provided are devoid of confirmation bias, right?  Liberals love quoting these studies, just like they love quoting anonymous sources. Whatever tests we devise will be capable of measuring only some aspects of intelligence. Intelligence tests have cultural biases, even some of the most up to date ones.

Intelligence testing even in its older cruder versions was to a large extent politically motivated. It was extensively used during the USA’s eugenics movement....an idea popularized by Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. Woodrow Wilson, one of the founders of Progressivism was a big believer in eugenics. Americans saw nothing wrong with eugenics until the Nazis in Germany took up the idea and went further than merely sterilizing those of low IQ.

It is true that people from urban communities perform better on IQ tests than rural communities....but my belief is that we really still don't have consensus on the value of IQ and intelligence testing. The intelligence testing enthusiasts never learned from their eugenics love affair because they then applied the same approach to IQ testing and "race".

IQ tests have also been used to bolster the idea of male superiority over females. (once they measured brain volume, then later measured IQ.)  How do you feel about that?  See how that works?  Of course I believe it's rubbish. Do you?

Those into the intelligence testing also argued that intelligence was/is down one’s genetic inheritance. Again these dubious studies were discredited.

In my opinion, intelligence tests only prove that you good at answering the IQ test questions. People can be coached in answering IQ tests and their subsequent test scores are higher.

This part is key: IQ tests are not predictors of success in life. The world is full of educated derelicts. 

IQ tests as they currently stand are very crude indicators of intelligence. 

Another thing you need to be aware of is that the IQ test is deliberately designed to NOT require much knowledge or skills. It’s a test of INNATE ability - not of LEARNED ability. In theory, someone who takes the test in high school should score the same 40 years later.To my way of thinking, intelligence ought to measure how well an individual can adapt based on past experiences.  That is very difficult to measure.  

Albert Einstein said: “Everybody is a genius but if you judge a fish by it’s ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life thinking that it is stupid.”

Do you believe this?:

https://reason.com/2020/01/30/trump-supporters-verbal-ability/

Do you believe that the prevalence of mental illness is higher in liberals than conservatives?

Aaand now we see the long excuses as to why proven correlations are false, paired with an article from a propaganda website. Thank you, I think you have proven me correct.

But yes, I think mental illnesses are very prevalent among left-leaning individuals, particularly depression. Ignorance is bliss, after all.

Well we agree on something at least.  Are you depressed?  If so, why?

I am very depressed, and have had to be medicated since I was ten. Much of it stems from human rights. The short answer is that I am empathetic.

I thought you might be.  I'm sorry to hear that.  
Which area of human rights injustices concern you most?

Genocide is a big one. Nobody seems to be talking about the fact that there is essentially a Holocaust going on in China, yet we try to be the police force of the modern world. Recently a whistleblower came forward with allegations of genocide in internment camps on US soil, after countless of complaints, and last time I heard Mexico was the only country investigating this. I would not be surprised if the results turned up confirmation of these allegations, especially since our “leader” has publicly supported eugenics. 

LGBTQ+ right’s are also huge. One of my best friends is a transgender man living in Poland, which is incredibly conservative right now. He’s confessed that he’s afraid people will try to hurt him or his partner simply because of who they are. These fears happen here as well. My cousin, whom I have always been very close with, is a transgender woman working as a mechanical engineer among many conservative colleagues who have hinted or implied some... concerning things. They have not learned that she is trans (she’s been on hormones for a while and has always been rather short), but she’s worried that they will try to hurt her if they figure it out. I’ve been helping her find resources to get her concealed carry license because of this. 

I recently lost my great-aunt to COVID-19. I was not close to her, but I am very close to my grandmother, who was. It broke my heart because my grandmother got a call one night from a nurse, who said that her sister likely wouldn’t make it until morning. One of my older cousins was with her at the time and later told me it was the first time he’d ever seen her cry. This particular cousin was essentially raised by our grandparents for a few years while my aunt was in law school, so this really stung. I’d like for her to be able to have a funeral with the rest of the family, but given a number of pre-existing conditions as well as old age, that would be very dangerous. 

There are countless goings on to be depressed about. Thank you for asking, that was very kind. 

Well, you sound like someone with a big heart, and I mean that. I'm sorry about your great aunt.   I assume you are referring to the Uyghur Muslims in those Chinese "re-education camps".  

Trump was talking about "good genes" the same way people flatter others or themselves with tongue-in-cheek remarks.  He is not a proponent of eugenics.  Actually, it's a little embarrassing to defend against that allegation. 
I am aware of some left wing magazines taking Trump's comments out of context and trying to equate him with Heinrich Himmler.  People in the upper Midwest often talk jokingly about their "Good German genes" or "good Norwegian genes".  Again, they do it as an attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor.  I know, because I grew up there. 
Maybe you haven't lived in the upper Midwest.  He also talked about Ilhan Omar and the influx of tens of thousands of Somali refugees into the middle of Minneapolis....an area referred to as "Little Mogadishu" that is an extremely dangerous area with increasing violent crimes.  Omar is a hate-filled antisemitic extreme left wing Democrat.  I have two married kids who live there, one of whom is a Democrat, and both agree the refugee influx has been very problematic.  

Eugenics in America was a progressive goal, beginning with Margaret Sanger and Woodrow Wilson.  Also, Obama's science czar, John Holdren, once wrote about eugenics, forced abortion, and forced sterilization mainly as a means of population control.

I tried to answer the questions above in Red.  We have our colors backwards.

I am sorry I just have to respond to this.  

 I don't want a cheerleader for a President, althought watching him sort of dance to YMCA at the rally last night was funny as can be. I want more of a Statesman or Woman. 

...but Biden playing Despacito and somewhat moving to the song at an event is more of a statesman.  I was watching it live and almost fell out of my chair laughing.  Guess someone with his campaign goofed again and didn't do their homework.  It was sort of fitting though for Biden...

Edited to add Harris and what a statewoman she is.  In a riveting interview when she was asked about who her favorite rapper alive today was she responded by naming a rapper that has been dead for over a decade.  Now to her credit she did answer the tough question and didn't dodge it.  Guess we are going to rap our way into better healthcare and life in general under a Harris/Biden admin.

Thanks Palopony! 

I hav'nt read all your replys to Bear, and you may have said it already and I may have missed it, But why do you not like Biden? So are you voting for Biden? 

question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it

i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped

not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes

Remember at the debate when Trump said Biden, in a speech to our military guys, had called them "stupid bastards."  Biden kept saying "show the tape, show the tape."  Well they've run it again and again on FOX.  He did call them that in a rather rude and heated fashion, then turned around and said what a dull group they were.  I think the old fart thought he was being funny but it wasn't showing in these soldiers faces.