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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2020-10-11 3:41 PM
You can't trust the polls, they purposely use more Dems in them. How many of us have been asked? I don't know one single person who has ever been in a poll.
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     Location: OH. IO | Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!   |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jake16 - 2020-10-11 4:00 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
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I sure hope the Republicans come out in droves to support our President
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        Location: Kansas | I think our worst enemy is going to be the mail in ballots. Badly handled from what I'm seeing and Democrats requested far more than Republicans. 2000 ballots I think in L.A. County didn't even have a place to mark for either Presidential candidate. Some people aren't getting their ballots while others are getting multiples. Lindsey Graham's Senatorial seat is in jeopardy because his opponent is being backed by mega millions of outside money. It's called buying an election. |
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   Location: Wisconsin | The polls did have Hillary winning during the last election. That is why I don't know how much weight we should put in polls. As to Lindsey Graham, did anyone else watch 60 minutes last night? Thoughts on The Lincoln Project? |
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        Location: Kansas | pepsi - 2020-10-12 10:30 AM The polls did have Hillary winning during the last election. That is why I don't know how much weight we should put in polls. As to Lindsey Graham, did anyone else watch 60 minutes last night? Thoughts on The Lincoln Project? I was totally unaware of the Lincoln Project. I try not to watch liberal media. Looked it up briefly. First word that came to my mind was RINOS. Flake, Romney, McCain, Collins....they trade(d) sides depending on the favorable winds of the day. Many others lean that direction too. A pack of coyotes. 
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| Lol - The Lincoln Project. Rick Wilson the biggest joke. After what he said about Trump supporters I could never take him seriously or trust him. Conway, Schmidt, Weaver and the list goes on. Basically they have come home. Their donors are democrats. A big reflection on who they are and not worth fretting over. They come off angry and a bit fanny hurt over being slighted by the republican party. Also follow the money and where the donations are going. There was an article back in the summer where the founders were paying their own firms millions. Even if they come out in droves the dent will be minimal. |
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The polls did have Hillary winning during the last election. That is why I don't know how much weight we should put in polls.
As to Lindsey Graham, did anyone else watch 60 minutes last night? Thoughts on The Lincoln Project?
2016 was an anomoly in the polls. The polls have been right on in every election I've voted in, the first one was 1976, and even before. I lived in Coral Gables, Fl the summer of 1972. The Democrat convention was nearby. But the polls showed Nixon in a landslide and a landslide it was. But the polls only measure the popular vote and we don't don't elect that way. Even in 2016 the polls were correct in that Hillary got more votes than Trump. Not as many more as predicted but still more. And that was m ost people voting against her rather than for Trump. Biden is getting more votes than Trump in this election. But it will depend on where he gets them. I believe Biden wins the election. But it won't surprise me if Trump wins again. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have. I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it. As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats. So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate. |
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     Location: OH. IO | jd&ez - 2020-10-12 6:48 PM jake16 - 2020-10-11 4:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!! RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!   That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have. I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it. As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats. So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate. Yes,im sure you have.I broke my back and neck in 2001 AT WORK.I was off over 21 months,(it wasnt unemployment,it was to recover for spine surgeries)I went back to work at a VERY physical job until recently.I had to have another spinal surgery,and i had to retire. I to was poor as a child,and also had a mother working several jobs to support 5 of us,alone.Thats why i prefer to have people work for THEIR OWN MONEY,INSTEAD OF USING MINE.I DO NOT LIKE PAYING FOR FREELOADERS,OR GANG MEMBERS,OR PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THIS COUNTRY TO GET FREE EVERYTHING.
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have.
I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it.
As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats.
So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate.
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        Location: Kansas | I know liberal media refuse to air Biden's senior moments but yesterday he once again relaid to his audience of 12 that he was running for the job of Senator. He also made a comment about Mitt Romney and couldn't remember his name so referred to him as the "Mormon, that governor".......never did remember his actual name. The more he travels the more confused he gets. He also replied the other day when asked if he feels citizens deserve to know if he plans to pack the courts. He said no we don't. Bad politics, Joe. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have.
I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it.
As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats.
So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate.
Ha ha ha ha spoken like a true Dem.. needing a pat on the back and sympathy all at the same time..
I don't need either and especially from a commie like you. But you know better then me what my opinions are. That's one of the earmarks of trumpers. No mond of their own but they think they can speak for others. I see I'm still living rent free in your head though. That 's a small victory. Still I guess you need some edification, I am, in fact, a true democrat. So anything I say will be spoken like a true democrat. I understand that as a trumper you are not true to anything and have no core beliefs just like your chosen god. I do feel sorry for you about that but my sorrow is tempered by the fact that you chose your path. In the face of reality you still chose fiction. And the fact that you are so pompous about supporting a racist, bigoted, sexist liar makes it even harder to find pity for you. But I do and will continue to pray for people like you. So, even though you call me a "true democrat" as an insult, it's not an insult to me at all. I am proud of where I stand. I get it that you are ashamed of your course and ashamed of being associated with the commies but you willingly chose that path. |
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| Apparently this latest polling has many confused given that Trump's job approval rating is up highest since February and 56% of Americans say they are better off compared to Obama and Bush. I listened to several political analyst break it down last night, far right, far left and in the middle. Basically they all said the same excep the far left analyst said Rasmussan is not accurate just accurate this time because the CNN poll of 1100 voters came up with the same. 2500 likely voters were polled and they took the % of republicans, democrats and independants to determine Biden's lead. It has Trump with fewer republicans voting for him than in 2016 which again doesn't make sense since he not only has gained so many of the never Trumpers from 2016 but the latino and black support is higher than ever. Also Biden is polling at historical numbers with previous polls showing around 30% of the voters are actually voting for Biden, the rest against Trump. Imagine despising a person so much you are willing to risk the fact that you are better off now than you have been in decades. I think so many have forgotten the endless wars, the regulations imposed on small businesses, stagnate economy, lay offs not due to a pandemic, high fuel prices, etc. I don't know who is going to win. I am a red state and red county and the early voting lines have been huge. Voter registration is up. It is so hard for me to believe that people would go to that much trouble to vote for a Harris/Biden team just because they hate Trump. But what do I know. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jd&ez - 2020-10-13 6:16 AM Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-12 8:04 PM jd&ez - 2020-10-12 5:48 PM jake16 - 2020-10-11 4:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!! RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!   That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have. I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it. As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats. So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate. Ha ha ha ha spoken like a true Dem.. needing a pat on the back and sympathy all at the same time.. I don't need either and especially from a commie like you. But you know better then me what my opinions are. That's one of the earmarks of trumpers. No mond of their own but they think they can speak for others. I see I'm still living rent free in your head though. That 's a small victory. Still I guess you need some edification, I am, in fact, a true democrat. So anything I say will be spoken like a true democrat. I understand that as a trumper you are not true to anything and have no core beliefs just like your chosen god. I do feel sorry for you about that but my sorrow is tempered by the fact that you chose your path. In the face of reality you still chose fiction. And the fact that you are so pompous about supporting a racist, bigoted, sexist liar makes it even harder to find pity for you. But I do and will continue to pray for people like you. So, even though you call me a "true democrat" as an insult, it's not an insult to me at all. I am proud of where I stand. I get it that you are ashamed of your course and ashamed of being associated with the commies but you willingly chose that path. Oh my goodness ha ha ha ha,, I sure dont want any prayers from the likes of you, I can tell you dont worship the same GOD I do, I worship My Chosen GOD The Lord up Above, Trump sure is not my God BUT he is my President and I support him and I am a Trumper. So stop the name calling, I didnt call you a name and Trump has not called you a name either.. So stop the pity party and man up..And tell us all why Harris I mean Biden will be a better President then Trump what will they do better then whatTrump has already done, seems to me Biden is wanting to repete Trump so he can take all the credit thats been done if Harris I mean Biden does win ? So give us the goods on them, besides wanting to take away all the Fossil Fuels and our guns. Edited to add, And Biden/Harris is planing on making our Taxes go up and since you say you make more money then others on here and work more hours you're taxes will really shoot up. Boy that sure will be much better for you, dont you think?!!!!
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have.
I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it.
As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats.
So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate.
Ha ha ha ha spoken like a true Dem.. needing a pat on the back and sympathy all at the same time..
I don't need either and especially from a commie like you. But you know better then me what my opinions are. That's one of the earmarks of trumpers. No mond of their own but they think they can speak for others.
I see I'm still living rent free in your head though. That 's a small victory. Still I guess you need some edification, I am, in fact, a true democrat. So anything I say will be spoken like a true democrat. I understand that as a trumper you are not true to anything and have no core beliefs just like your chosen god. I do feel sorry for you about that but my sorrow is tempered by the fact that you chose your path. In the face of reality you still chose fiction. And the fact that you are so pompous about supporting a racist, bigoted, sexist liar makes it even harder to find pity for you. But I do and will continue to pray for people like you.
So, even though you call me a "true democrat" as an insult, it's not an insult to me at all. I am proud of where I stand. I get it that you are ashamed of your course and ashamed of being associated with the commies but you willingly chose that path.
Oh my goodness ha ha ha ha,, I sure dont want any prayers from the likes of you, I can tell you dont worship the same GOD I do, I worship My Chosen GOD The Lord up Above, Trump sure is not my God BUT he is my President and I support him and I am a Trumper. So stop the name calling, I didnt call you a name and Trump has not called you a name either.. So stop the pity party and man up..And tell us all why Harris I mean Biden will be a better President then Trump what will they do better then whatTrump has already done, seems to me Biden is wanting to repete Trump so he can take all the credit thats been done if Harris I mean Biden does win ? So give us the goods on them, besides wanting to take away all the Fossil Fuels and our guns.
Edited to add, And Biden/Harris is planing on making our Taxes go up and since you say you make more money then others on here and work more hours you're taxes will really shoot up. Boy that sure will be much better for you, dont you think?!!!!
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | euchee - 2020-10-13 10:28 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-13 9:43 AM
jd&ez - 2020-10-13 6:16 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-12 8:04 PM
jd&ez - 2020-10-12 5:48 PM
jake16 - 2020-10-11 4:00 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-11 4:34 PM
I remember that the polls showed ole Hillary winning and then at the end the numbers came rolling in for Trump, Hillary thought that she had won and thats why she threw such a awful fit/Temper Tantrun that night when she found out she was a LOSER!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!Because trump supporters had to wait to GET OFF WORK TO VOTE!!!  
That's a funny line!! I'll give you that. But you don't know me and I don't know you. But I would be willing to bet that I've worked more hours this year than you have.
I know it's easy to portray democrats as takers. It's the low hanging fruit. I've never taken any government monies. I've never been on unemployment. We might have been on Medicaid when I was a child? I know we were poor enough to be but I don't know if Medicaid existed here then. And my Mom is not alive for me to ask her. I do know she worked two jobs raising 6 kids as a single parent. I didn't even take the corporate welfare this year made available because of Covid. But I don't begrudge those that did and kept workers working because of the PPP. I did look at the EIDL but decided against it.
As for taxes, my wife and I paid over $40K in just federal income taxes for 2019. Ky taxes, county taxes, municipal taxes and self emplyment taxes were on toip of that. So we are no one's deadbeats.
So, while your joke is funny, it's far from accurate.
Ha ha ha ha spoken like a true Dem.. needing a pat on the back and sympathy all at the same time..
I don't need either and especially from a commie like you. But you know better then me what my opinions are. That's one of the earmarks of trumpers. No mond of their own but they think they can speak for others.
I see I'm still living rent free in your head though. That 's a small victory. Still I guess you need some edification, I am, in fact, a true democrat. So anything I say will be spoken like a true democrat. I understand that as a trumper you are not true to anything and have no core beliefs just like your chosen god. I do feel sorry for you about that but my sorrow is tempered by the fact that you chose your path. In the face of reality you still chose fiction. And the fact that you are so pompous about supporting a racist, bigoted, sexist liar makes it even harder to find pity for you. But I do and will continue to pray for people like you.
So, even though you call me a "true democrat" as an insult, it's not an insult to me at all. I am proud of where I stand. I get it that you are ashamed of your course and ashamed of being associated with the commies but you willingly chose that path.
Oh my goodness ha ha ha ha,, I sure dont want any prayers from the likes of you, I can tell you dont worship the same GOD I do, I worship My Chosen GOD The Lord up Above, Trump sure is not my God BUT he is my President and I support him and I am a Trumper. So stop the name calling, I didnt call you a name and Trump has not called you a name either.. So stop the pity party and man up..And tell us all why Harris I mean Biden will be a better President then Trump what will they do better then whatTrump has already done, seems to me Biden is wanting to repete Trump so he can take all the credit thats been done if Harris I mean Biden does win ? So give us the goods on them, besides wanting to take away all the Fossil Fuels and our guns.
Edited to add, And Biden/Harris is planing on making our Taxes go up and since you say you make more money then others on here and work more hours you're taxes will really shoot up. Boy that sure will be much better for you, dont you think?!!!!
I have only seen one person on this whole board answer that question, the rest just ignore it.
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