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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-10-23 8:14 AM
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i thought it was great  . trump hammer 47 years of  joe career  and   and the fracking oil  coomments joe and harris made are up

 

all over.  

 

but how doo you put covid in a box  you don/t its here like the flue get over it

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2020-10-23 8:30 AM
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It was much less chaotic than the last one (thank you mute button) but I'm not sure it changed any of the swing voters minds. They were both pretty much on brand. Kudos to Welker for keeping her cool and not letting it get too far off the rails. 

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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-10-23 9:38 AM
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I thought President Trump did a fantastic job. 

Joe Biden still didn't tell us what his plan is. .  he has one but what it is no one knows. And that oil comment. If he gets in he will shut oil down and the economy will tank!

Vote Trump 2020!

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-10-23 9:52 AM
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We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 

 

This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.

 

 

 

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 10:19 AM
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jd&ez - 2020-10-23 9:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 


WHY do you come on here and insult people, you whine and cry when someone says anything to you, you come on here asking to be called names and when it happens you cry like a baby..Go somewhere else where people like you are accepted with all the whining and crying, boo hooing.. You do all the attacking of us, you start the name calling AND we give it right back to you AND when you do get it back you whine, why is that!!!

Biden is going to take away millions of jobs by stoping all the oil companys, hes planning on putting them all out of business, hes going to raise taxes, hes going to shut down the country again and when this happens more business will go under.. Bidens are dirty dirty people, COME ON MAN why cant you understand whats going to happen when he shuts down the oil industry!!! What type of business are you in to where you are happy with him shutting down the country again, how are you making a living? Biden told lie after lie..The Bidens are horrible people, THEY LIE, Hunter is a product of his father, I sure dont want these people running this country.. 

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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2020-10-23 10:23 AM
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jd&ez - 2020-10-23 10:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 


What is your take on the "getting rid of oil" comment?  

 

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roxieannie
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 10:24 AM
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Oil is more than just fuel for us to run around.  
big example ~ plastic.    No more cell phones, computers, smart appliances    
 No more makeup one is used to. Have to go back to old fashioned ways. 

medicines have "oil" ingredients 

 



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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-10-23 10:32 AM
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3canstorun - 2020-10-23 9:23 AM


jd&ez - 2020-10-23 10:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 



What is your take on the "getting rid of oil" comment?  


 



I'm curious too, and while you're telling us your take on the oil comment tell us why you voted for Biden over Trump- WITHOUT mentioning Trump or bashing the republicans?

 

I'll wait. . .

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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2020-10-23 10:32 AM
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roxieannie - 2020-10-23 11:24 AM


Oil is more than just fuel for us to run around.  
big example ~ plastic.    No more cell phones, computers, smart appliances    
 No more makeup one is used to. Have to go back to old fashioned ways. 


medicines have "oil" ingredients 


 


Oil lamps were a basic at one time.  

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-10-23 10:38 AM
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No oil to power our economy..... we will be burning lots of trees to stay warm and horse-drawn plows and wagons will be expensive to buy.  

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 10:54 AM
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If Biden gets in and he starts shutting down our country and shuts down our Oil Industry its going to affect every one of us, even if you are not employed in the Oil Field Industry it will affect us all. 



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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-10-23 10:54 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-23 10:19 AM


jd&ez - 2020-10-23 9:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 



WHY do you come on here and insult people, you whine and cry when someone says anything to you, you come on here asking to be called names and when it happens you cry like a baby..Go somewhere else where people like you are accepted with all the whining and crying, boo hooing.. You do all the attacking of us, you start the name calling AND we give it right back to you AND when you do get it back you whine, why is that!!!


Biden is going to take away millions of jobs by stoping all the oil companys, hes planning on putting them all out of business, hes going to raise taxes, hes going to shut down the country again and when this happens more business will go under.. Bidens are dirty dirty people, COME ON MAN why cant you understand whats going to happen when he shuts down the oil industry!!! What type of business are you in to where you are happy with him shutting down the country again, how are you making a living? Biden told lie after lie..The Bidens are horrible people, THEY LIE, Hunter is a product of his father, I sure dont want these people running this country.. 



More lies from you! But I'm used to that. Nor have I ever whined about anything. I get it that you cannot have a rational or intelligent conversation nor have I ever called you, or anyone here, a name. Well, maybe Witch doctor is name call? But that was only after years of personal attacks toward me from him. 

I'm sure there's an archive here where you can prove me wrong? Can you provide proof of what you claim?

Now, if you are actually pumpkin head, laura ingrate, rush dumbaugh or dan bonggong then I stand corrected, I have called you names if you are one of them. 

 

I do get it that you don't want me here and that's OK. Just get me banned so you won't have to read facts. 

 

I do feel sorry for you since you are so angry all the time and your live revolves around politics. But it's the path you have chosen. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-10-23 10:57 AM
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Every time the biased moderator gave "permission" for a candidate to respond, she immediately interrupted Trump but rarely Biden.  Count 111 interruptions for Trump, 22 for Joe.  

...and she should have quizzed Biden further on the Hunter debacle.  It's huge.  Biden said he didn't take money from foreign government.  Didn't have to.  His family was taking the money and divvying it up with Pops.

Biden shot himself in the foot with the chop job on the oil and gas industry. I think his mind was past being able to process or he wouldn't have said it at all.

 

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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2020-10-23 10:58 AM
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@ jd&ez: It's wonderful to see that Barry Sotero, America's gun salesman extraordinaire is on the road campaigning for Trump. Barry is the idiotic, Democrat fiddle, and you are the resulting music.

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crossspur
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2020-10-23 10:59 AM
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If Biden gets elected you are electing Harris & you might as well just tell America goodbye. America as we know it will be gone forever & the New America isn't going to be a good thing 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-10-23 11:00 AM
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3canstorun - 2020-10-23 10:23 AM


jd&ez - 2020-10-23 10:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 



What is your take on the "getting rid of oil" comment?  


 



I don't like that comment. Unlike the pumpkin cult I can say where my chandidate is wrong. There are many things that I disagree with the democrat party on. That's life. I always agreed with the republicans about the debt. But then the republicans flip-flopped on the debt when pumpkin head got elected. ***** McConnell railed against the debt for 8 years under Obama. Now he's a debt mute. 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-10-23 11:05 AM
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texpat - 2020-10-23 10:58 AM


@ jd&ez: It's wonderful to see that Barry Sotero, America's gun salesman extraordinaire is on the road campaigning for Trump. Barry is the idiotic, Democrat fiddle, and you are the resulting music.


I'm not the one being played here. To get away from the dramatic, the world is not changing or ending no matter who wins.  Life will go on. I've survived 4 years of trump and I can survive 4 more. Life would better without an immature, unhinged, commie president but we will make it even if he wins again. 

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2020-10-23 11:17 AM
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3canstorun - 2020-10-23 10:32 AM


roxieannie - 2020-10-23 11:24 AM


Oil is more than just fuel for us to run around.  
big example ~ plastic.    No more cell phones, computers, smart appliances    
 No more makeup one is used to. Have to go back to old fashioned ways. 


medicines have "oil" ingredients 


 



Oil lamps were a basic at one time.  



I have a few around the house and I love them, they're perfect for when the power goes out! 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 11:22 AM
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Hummm the name calling you like to do on here....

You have called us Racist, Commies, bat**** Crazy, idiots, Cult followers, nuts, minions, lemmings (rodents). And now we are a Pumpkin Cult.. pretty sure theres more.. 



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Dirt Dobber
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2020-10-23 11:33 AM
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Trump seemed a bit surprised he got Joe to admit his plans for oil.   Trump recovered and finished driving the nail.  I saw in a focus group where some undecided were worried about it.  They were also tired of hearing about Covid. 

Most  leveled headed of people last night was talking about how a Harris/Biden ticket would dismantle the country.  Harris is the concern.  Biden won't last, he is too frail mentally and physically.  It is hard to tell if all the lies Biden has been caught in is more from mental decline or just the same ole Joe of 47 years.

 

 

 

 

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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 11:41 AM
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Oh i LOVE EVERYTHING PUMPKIN,pie,bread,muffins,pumpkin spice ceamer and TRUMP

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 12:07 PM
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GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

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Dirt Dobber
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Posted 2020-10-23 12:14 PM
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NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM


GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  


Why are you voting Biden?

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-23 12:52 PM
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Let's knock off the nonsense about Biden flip flopping on fracking, oil, and coal.  He lied.  This will provide you a link of several video clips where he made remarks on this subject.  He lied his ass off.  

https://lidblog.com/video-biden-ban-fracking/

 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-23 12:59 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-10-23 10:54 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-23 10:19 AM


jd&ez - 2020-10-23 9:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 



WHY do you come on here and insult people, you whine and cry when someone says anything to you, you come on here asking to be called names and when it happens you cry like a baby..Go somewhere else where people like you are accepted with all the whining and crying, boo hooing.. You do all the attacking of us, you start the name calling AND we give it right back to you AND when you do get it back you whine, why is that!!!


Biden is going to take away millions of jobs by stoping all the oil companys, hes planning on putting them all out of business, hes going to raise taxes, hes going to shut down the country again and when this happens more business will go under.. Bidens are dirty dirty people, COME ON MAN why cant you understand whats going to happen when he shuts down the oil industry!!! What type of business are you in to where you are happy with him shutting down the country again, how are you making a living? Biden told lie after lie..The Bidens are horrible people, THEY LIE, Hunter is a product of his father, I sure dont want these people running this country.. 




More lies from you! But I'm used to that. Nor have I ever whined about anything. I get it that you cannot have a rational or intelligent conversation nor have I ever called you, or anyone here, a name. Well, maybe Witch doctor is name call? But that was only after years of personal attacks toward me from him. 


I'm sure there's an archive here where you can prove me wrong? Can you provide proof of what you claim?


Now, if you are actually pumpkin head, laura ingrate, rush dumbaugh or dan bonggong then I stand corrected, I have called you names if you are one of them. 


 


I do get it that you don't want me here and that's OK. Just get me banned so you won't have to read facts. 


 


I do feel sorry for you since you are so angry all the time and your live revolves around politics. But it's the path you have chosen. 


Jd&ez, I don't mind you calling me names here.  Just know this....if we ever meet face to face, I wouldn't tolerate it for a second.  You get my point, no doubt.  

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-10-23 12:59 PM
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NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM

GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

He said by 2035.  That's only 15 years.  Twilight years for those of us who are older.  Not that big a step for young people who would like to enjoy the freedoms we have today.  Also Gov. Newsom has declared that starting in 2035 California will not allow the sale of new gas-powered cars or light trucks in their state.  

You also might read up on the harmful effects of wind chargers on residents who live near them.  

 



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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-23 1:03 PM
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Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?

This won't go away.  

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Dirt Dobber
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Bear - 2020-10-23 1:03 PM


Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?


This won't go away.  


I did.  Very interesting.  Democrats are all of a sudden tired of investigations...

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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 1:13 PM
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Bear - 2020-10-23 2:03 PM


Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?


This won't go away.  


Yes,i saw it,they will find the poor kid dead somewhere....

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-10-23 1:15 PM
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I have grown up in the Oil Field industry, my Dad worked in the Oil Field Industry all HIS life, thats all he knew and he was dam good at what he did, All my Uncles( dads brothers) all worked in the oil field, they build their own companys and WORKED theirs A**'s off in their line of work, my husband worked oil field the first part of our marriage, I finally got him to quit and start his own business, my oldest son is in the gas industry, lots of friends are in the oil business, so this really upsets me that Biden says he will get rid of the Oil and Gas Industry, yes it a very dangerous way to support your family while it makes other Americans way of life easier, they have gas to drive their trucks/cars they have heat when needed theres factorys where many many have jobs that depend on the fossil fuel to keep them running, the list gos on..

Yes Biden wont beable to get rid of the Fossil fuel right off the bat but he sure in the hell will work on getting rid of it while hes in office if he makes it and when hes done (gets put away) then Harris will take over to make sure it gets done. I worry about my GrandChildrens furture as well as my Great Grandchildren, Biden?Harris will do alot of damage if they make the office.. Alot of people dont realize that the Oil Fields and Gas Industry is a way of life, Texans depend on this.. So this REALLY hits home when you threaten someones way of life and Biden did.. 

edited to add: My sisters husband and their son are both in the oil field industry as well as both their son-in-laws and more of my family members. 



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Southtxponygirl
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Yes Biden said 2035, and thats not to far away.. What's all the Truck drivers and Barrel Racers that depend on Fossil fuel to get to races and transport produce for other companys, how are they going to get to where they are going, I cant see a electric truck pulling a L/Q trailer loaded get to a barrel race across the country.. Whats all the airlines going to do?!!! This is some serious Sheets!!!

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NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM


GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  



He said by 2035.  That's only 15 years.  Twilight years for those of us who are older.  Not that big a step for young people who would like to enjoy the freedoms we have today.  Also Gov. Newsom has declared that starting in 2035 California will not allow the sale of new gas-powered cars or light trucks in their state.  


You also might read up on the harmful effects of wind chargers on residents who live near them.  


 


Biden could attempt to regulate the oil industry to death.  I am sure he can pull a few plays out of Obama's play book on regulations.  

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Southtxponygirl
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jake16 - 2020-10-23 1:13 PM


Bear - 2020-10-23 2:03 PM


Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?


This won't go away.  



Yes,i saw it,they will find the poor kid dead somewhere....


I just hope that the FBI has him under protection, that young man is going to need it. 

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Frodo
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Posted 2020-10-23 1:34 PM
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Remember when Obama went after corporate jets.  It devastated the industry for some time as orders were cancelled at Learjet and Cessna.  I live here and this is the business I work in.  He was simply not smart enough to realize that thousands built and maintained this aircraft, as he used Air Force One for family vacations. 

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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-23 1:28 PM

Yes Biden said 2035, and thats not to far away.. What's all the Truck drivers and Barrel Racers that depend on Fossil fuel to get to races and transport produce for other companys, how are they going to get to where they are going, I cant see a electric truck pulling a L/Q trailer loaded get to a barrel race across the country.. Whats all the airlines going to do?!!! This is some serious Sheets!!!

If it was not considered serious, then there would not be any need for Biden and Harris running around doing damage control today.  His campaign took to twitter walking it back when the backlash started.



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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2020-10-23 1:40 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-10-23 10:54 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-23 10:19 AM


jd&ez - 2020-10-23 9:52 AM


We already voted  but I still watched a little just to see the lying, unhinged pumpkin explode. He didn't disappoint. But I see the cult members can't see what's right in front of them. 


 


This is not an election that Biden will win. It's an election that the pumpkin will lose.


 


 


 


 



WHY do you come on here and insult people, you whine and cry when someone says anything to you, you come on here asking to be called names and when it happens you cry like a baby..Go somewhere else where people like you are accepted with all the whining and crying, boo hooing.. You do all the attacking of us, you start the name calling AND we give it right back to you AND when you do get it back you whine, why is that!!!


Biden is going to take away millions of jobs by stoping all the oil companys, hes planning on putting them all out of business, hes going to raise taxes, hes going to shut down the country again and when this happens more business will go under.. Bidens are dirty dirty people, COME ON MAN why cant you understand whats going to happen when he shuts down the oil industry!!! What type of business are you in to where you are happy with him shutting down the country again, how are you making a living? Biden told lie after lie..The Bidens are horrible people, THEY LIE, Hunter is a product of his father, I sure dont want these people running this country.. 




More lies from you! But I'm used to that. Nor have I ever whined about anything. I get it that you cannot have a rational or intelligent conversation nor have I ever called you, or anyone here, a name. Well, maybe Witch doctor is name call? But that was only after years of personal attacks toward me from him. 


I'm sure there's an archive here where you can prove me wrong? Can you provide proof of what you claim?


Now, if you are actually pumpkin head, laura ingrate, rush dumbaugh or dan bonggong then I stand corrected, I have called you names if you are one of them. 


 


I do get it that you don't want me here and that's OK. Just get me banned so you won't have to read facts. 


 


I do feel sorry for you since you are so angry all the time and your live revolves around politics. But it's the path you have chosen. 


Oh you have whined on here, in fact you are doing it with any post of yours, Yes theres plenty of proof of the name calling you do on here, It would take me a few days of bumping up the threads of the name calling you have done. 

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taxes aare another issue  he is gonna raise them if he wwins

 

trump made a great point on the minu wage  15.00 her i al  ga fl be huge    calif  no ny  nj  be peanuts  as cost of living

 

biden want to  shut country down  put covid n a box   not happen will be worse than depression

 

he forgets ttruck drivers wshouse people   truck stops   shut country down run out of food in less than 2 weeks

 

water line break   no water  

 

as far as climiate contro; trump said what needed to be said  china india   hongkong  southeast are air pollution   till they clean up  ...

 

biden say he will force them  yeah right   you do not tell a communist country what to do

 

any way

 

 

where is hunter?

 

 

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Bear - 2020-10-23 2:03 PM


Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?


This won't go away.  


i hope he  is under guard  or very secure

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https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php

 

i tried to just get  the graph on here but how do biden propose to do away

 

taxes      even  50cent swaped to trump when he saw it

 

why are democrats want to give iillegalls a stimulus check?

 

 

 

 

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Oil lamps?.. hum.... whale oil? 

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Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM


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GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  



Why are you voting Biden?


REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 

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NJJ - 2020-10-24 8:50 AM

Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM

NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM

GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

Why are you voting Biden?

REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 

I did and you didn't answer the above question.  If you want to get into the subject of pollution, you have to get much broader than the oil and gas industry.  Insecticides, trashed electronics, runoff from livestock operations, lead based paint, sewage.  When they wash down the human feces and drug contamination from the liberal streets of San Francisco, where do you think the runoff goes.   Right into the bay where people fish and boat.  Biden was grasping at straws on that comeback.

 



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Frodo - 2020-10-24 9:37 AM

NJJ - 2020-10-24 8:50 AM

Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM

NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM

GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

Why are you voting Biden?

REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 

I did and you didn't answer the above question.  If you want to get into the subject of pollution, you have to get much broader than the oil and gas industry.  Insecticides, trashed electronics, runoff from livestock operations, lead based paint, sewage.  When they wash down the human feces and drug contamination from the liberal streets of San Francisco, where do you think the runoff goes.   Right into the bay where people fish and boat.  Biden was grasping at straws on that comeback.

 

Nice deflection ...... BUT that wasn't the question to Trump and Biden ..... and, personally, it is none of your business IF (or not) I voted for Biden ...... To be clear, I don't EVER vote a straight ticket either Republican or Democrat ...... and again it shows the lack of intelligence to "assume" that just because I post FACTS that I will vote for either ..... I had 13 choices on MY ballot ..... LOL



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Posted 2020-10-24 10:46 AM
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NJJ - 2020-10-24 8:50 AM


Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM


NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM


GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  



Why are you voting Biden?



REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 


NJJ, do you like Joe's "thirty year plan"?  You seemed triggered by the assertion that you are voting for Biden.  Well?  Are you?

The problem that Biden's campaign is facing is that they are trying to offset all the statements he's made in the past about getting rid of fossil fuels, banning fracking, transitioning away from fossil fuels, etc... Staements like “We would work it out. We would make sure it’s eliminated", are well documented on video.  He said we need to get to zero carbon emissions by 2025. That's 5 years away.  Everyone has seen his remarks, and now he's trying to deny he made these assertions.  No matter how he tries to walk those promises back, he's stuck with them and people whose lives depend on fossil fuels are taking notice.  He wants to put in 500,000 charging stations for electric cars.  People aren't stupid. They don't like the idea of having to charge their cars for 4-5 hours every day at home.  They don't like the idea of having to stop every 90-300 miles (depending on the car) for an hour to charge their car, even at a "super charging station".  People recognize that the electricity for these cars comes from fossil fuels.  Of course, I haven't even touched on pickups, trucks, and tractors. Then there are problems encountered with electric cars in extreme cold weather.  Add to that, the fact that people aren't excited about paying $30-40,000 for an ugly sh!tty looking little car.  I could go on and on, but the way I see it, the free market is the ultimate answer....not politicians and politics.  I happen to like the idea of solar power, for example.  I'm getting to the point where I'm willing to shell out the money required to go off the grid....IF my solar power is adequate to meet those demands.  I don't need a government program or mandate to convince me.  It just makes a lot of sense.  Companies in the solar power industry can make their case, and consumers will gradually decide....based on cost and quality.  The same with electric cars.  Tesla doesn't get nearly as much in government subsidies as they used to.  They rely upon their appeal to consumers.  Electric cars don't appeal to me at all, but maybe that will change.  That's the beauty of free market capitalism.  I love it.  

Then there's this notion of untold $trillions going into retrofitting millions of federal and private buildings....basically the Biden-Sanders manifesto.

Bottom line for me is Biden's plan isn't "green" to me....it's garbage.

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Posted 2020-10-24 11:26 AM
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NJJ - 2020-10-24 8:50 AM

Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM

NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM

GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

Why are you voting Biden?

REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 

Yes and no.  I was actually yanking your chain a bit.  I have been coming to this forum during an election year for years.  Out of curiosity I wanted to see if you would react as you always do when questioned because your choice of fact checking appears to lean your support to a specific candidate. I really don't care who you vote for.

As far as referencing anything in your comment; why bother?  Anyone that has taken the time to study and learn the candidates knew Biden would be walking it back the minute he felt the heat.  His feigned outrage for sick people never dinged my bell he is so predictable.  Empathetic Joe with his outstanding character that tells a plant worker he is full of $h1tt or telling another voter instead of addressing his concers tells him to go vote for Trump doesn't fool everyone.  I would much rather see action from Joe just as we have seen from Trump.  Good or bad Trump has given us something tangible to judge him by.  

 



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vjls
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Posted 2020-10-24 1:58 PM
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do away with oil and natural gas   say goodbye to life as we know it it

 

also did you see where schumer wants the fbi not to investigate till after the election. said it will corrupt the law

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NJJ - 2020-10-24 9:45 AM

Frodo - 2020-10-24 9:37 AM

NJJ - 2020-10-24 8:50 AM

Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-23 12:14 PM

NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM

GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  

Why are you voting Biden?

REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 

I did and you didn't answer the above question.  If you want to get into the subject of pollution, you have to get much broader than the oil and gas industry.  Insecticides, trashed electronics, runoff from livestock operations, lead based paint, sewage.  When they wash down the human feces and drug contamination from the liberal streets of San Francisco, where do you think the runoff goes.   Right into the bay where people fish and boat.  Biden was grasping at straws on that comeback.

 

Nice deflection ...... BUT that wasn't the question to Trump and Biden ..... and, personally, it is none of your business IF (or not) I voted for Biden ...... To be clear, I don't EVER vote a straight ticket either Republican or Democrat ...... and again it shows the lack of intelligence to "assume" that just because I post FACTS that I will vote for either ..... I had 13 choices on MY ballot ..... LOL

That was a far cry from a deflection.  I grew up on a farm one half mile from the Skelly Refinery in El Dorado KS.  There were two refineries on the outskirts of the city and it was no different from living in any U.S. city other than there were lots and lots of jobs at these facilities.  There was no way to answer this question logically.

 Yesterday I watched Biden give a gaffe-laced speech in the cold wind in Pennsylvania.   I didn't watch for long.  He said "I don't like smart people" so there was no point in continuing to listen to this angry guy.  I tuned him out.   



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I loved it when Trump turned to Biden and he told Biden you and Obama are the reason Why I ran for President and WON!!! That was so cool of Trump

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NJJ - 2020-10-23 12:07 PM


GOOD GRIEF ....... This is another case of let's just jump on the "click bait" ......You all act like Biden would shut down the oil industry the week after inaugeration .... GET REAL and try to do a little research .......  Biden has laid out a plan to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2050..... THIRTY year plan ....... What he did say that he was going to do was cut the FEDERAL SUBSIDIES to the oil industry! You all seem to forget that the question about the oil field industry was about the POLLUTION killing and making the people who lived nearby sick....Trump's answer was ...well, yeh ....but they make good wages ......  



Why are you voting Biden?



REALLY? That is what you got out of that post? I see that NO ONE actually referenced the ACTUAL question ...... 



I did and you didn't answer the above question.  If you want to get into the subject of pollution, you have to get much broader than the oil and gas industry.  Insecticides, trashed electronics, runoff from livestock operations, lead based paint, sewage.  When they wash down the human feces and drug contamination from the liberal streets of San Francisco, where do you think the runoff goes.   Right into the bay where people fish and boat.  Biden was grasping at straws on that comeback.


 



Nice deflection ...... BUT that wasn't the question to Trump and Biden ..... and, personally, it is none of your business IF (or not) I voted for Biden ...... To be clear, I don't EVER vote a straight ticket either Republican or Democrat ...... and again it shows the lack of intelligence to "assume" that just because I post FACTS that I will vote for either ..... I had 13 choices on MY ballot ..... LOL



That was a far cry from a deflection.  I grew up on a farm one half mile from the Skelly Refinery in El Dorado KS.  There were two refineries on the outskirts of the city and it was no different from living in any U.S. city other than there were lots and lots of jobs at these facilities.  There was no way to answer this question logically.


 Yesterday I watched Biden give a gaffe-laced speech in the cold wind in Pennsylvania.   I didn't watch for long.  He said "I don't like smart people" so there was no point in continuing to listen to this angry guy.  I tuned him out.   


He was raging and has been a lot lately.  I noticed Jill was happy to step up to the podium and speak while Biden wandered around behind her.

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Southtxponygirl - 2020-10-23 1:33 PM


jake16 - 2020-10-23 1:13 PM


Bear - 2020-10-23 2:03 PM


Did anyone else watch the statement by former Biden family business associate, Anthony Bobulinski?


This won't go away.  



Yes,i saw it,they will find the poor kid dead somewhere....



I just hope that the FBI has him under protection, that young man is going to need it. 


I wouldn't trust the FBI with my pet rock!  They had Hunters laptop during the impeachment and never said a word, if Trump wins he needs to clean the FBI out starting at the top.

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