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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-12-07 7:01 PM
Subject: california


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 why do they keep voting them in  is common sense gome is something in the water

 

they completely  talk from both sides

https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/

 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-12-07 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: california


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vjls - 2020-12-07 7:01 PM


 why do they keep voting them in  is common sense gome is something in the water


 


they completely  talk from both sides


https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/


 


Gov. Newsom is Nancy Pelosi's nephew.  California is totally controlled by liberals who obviously are masters at rigging elections.

 

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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2020-12-07 11:26 PM
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vjls - 2020-12-07 6:01 PM


 why do they keep voting them in  is common sense gome is something in the water


 


they completely  talk from both sides


https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/


 


California doesn't have any water.

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2020-12-08 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: california


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I live in Northern California. Very conservative here in my county. The problem here is that our votes don't mean anything when put against the San Francisco Bay area and Southern California. We are out voted 100 to 1. Still a beautiful place here, but, when you have more people sitting in the wagon than there are pulling it, it its hard to convince them to get out and push. They just want a bigger wagon.

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-12-09 12:09 PM
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I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............

 

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CrossDRanch
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2020-12-09 12:35 PM
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Had a friend move from Truckee last year back to Dallas.....costing too much in tax, etc. 



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friesiangirl
Reg. Dec 2020
Posted 2020-12-09 12:38 PM
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winwillows - 2020-12-08 5:24 PM


I live in Northern California. Very conservative here in my county. The problem here is that our votes don't mean anything when put against the San Francisco Bay area and Southern California. We are out voted 100 to 1. Still a beautiful place here, but, when you have more people sitting in the wagon than there are pulling it, it its hard to convince them to get out and push. They just want a bigger wagon.


Could have wrote this myself but for Michigan. Just a few small pockets of blue 600 (Ann Arbor, part of Detroit not all) miles away from me that seems to make the decisions for our community. Doesn't make much sense to me, but it is what it is. 

They do just want a bigger wagon... 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-09 2:24 PM
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Frodo - 2020-12-09 12:09 PM


I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............


 


He's moving to Texas and his foundation will be in Texas, but his auto plants are in Palo Alto, and elsewhere in California.  I haven't heard or read anything about him relocating those plants.  His foundation is worth something like $400 million.  That's small potatoes when you consider his net worth is about $140 billion.  He didn't become the second wealthiest man on the planet by making emotional, knee-jerk reactions.  It's not like he operates a BBQ trailer that he can simply roll over to Texas. His SpaceX work might have something to do with his moving to Texas and he has a factory in Austin.  He thinks California is corrupt and messed up.  

He may be eccentric, and somewhat liberal/libertarian, and he may be an environmentalist, but I like some of his ideas and his guts.  He's obviously a free market capitalist.  His cars are all made in the USA....at least the ones he sells in the USA.  I think he does make some cars in China, but his cars here are all 100% made in the USA.  
Musk is not afraid to be a renegade and speak his mind either.  I suppose when you are worth $140 billion you can afford to be painfully candid.  He has made a lot of remarks about Covid19 that have triggered the snowflakes.  For example, he was tested 4 times for Covid in the same day....2 were positive and 2 were negative. He wasn't kind in his assessment of that incident.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, sometime in the future, he decides to follow Trump's paradigm and run for president.

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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2020-12-09 4:35 PM
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Bear - 2020-12-09 2:24 PM


Frodo - 2020-12-09 12:09 PM


I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............


 



He's moving to Texas and his foundation will be in Texas, but his auto plants are in Palo Alto, and elsewhere in California.  I haven't heard or read anything about him relocating those plants.  His foundation is worth something like $400 million.  That's small potatoes when you consider his net worth is about $140 billion.  He didn't become the second wealthiest man on the planet by making emotional, knee-jerk reactions.  It's not like he operates a BBQ trailer that he can simply roll over to Texas. His SpaceX work might have something to do with his moving to Texas and he has a factory in Austin.  He thinks California is corrupt and messed up.  


He may be eccentric, and somewhat liberal/libertarian, and he may be an environmentalist, but I like some of his ideas and his guts.  He's obviously a free market capitalist.  His cars are all made in the USA....at least the ones he sells in the USA.  I think he does make some cars in China, but his cars here are all 100% made in the USA.  
Musk is not afraid to be a renegade and speak his mind either.  I suppose when you are worth $140 billion you can afford to be painfully candid.  He has made a lot of remarks about Covid19 that have triggered the snowflakes.  For example, he was tested 4 times for Covid in the same day....2 were positive and 2 were negative. He wasn't kind in his assessment of that incident.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, sometime in the future, he decides to follow Trump's paradigm and run for president.


Bear, I think he was born in South Africa, wouldn't he be ineligible?

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-09 4:57 PM
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texpat - 2020-12-09 4:35 PM


Bear - 2020-12-09 2:24 PM


Frodo - 2020-12-09 12:09 PM


I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............


 



He's moving to Texas and his foundation will be in Texas, but his auto plants are in Palo Alto, and elsewhere in California.  I haven't heard or read anything about him relocating those plants.  His foundation is worth something like $400 million.  That's small potatoes when you consider his net worth is about $140 billion.  He didn't become the second wealthiest man on the planet by making emotional, knee-jerk reactions.  It's not like he operates a BBQ trailer that he can simply roll over to Texas. His SpaceX work might have something to do with his moving to Texas and he has a factory in Austin.  He thinks California is corrupt and messed up.  


He may be eccentric, and somewhat liberal/libertarian, and he may be an environmentalist, but I like some of his ideas and his guts.  He's obviously a free market capitalist.  His cars are all made in the USA....at least the ones he sells in the USA.  I think he does make some cars in China, but his cars here are all 100% made in the USA.  
Musk is not afraid to be a renegade and speak his mind either.  I suppose when you are worth $140 billion you can afford to be painfully candid.  He has made a lot of remarks about Covid19 that have triggered the snowflakes.  For example, he was tested 4 times for Covid in the same day....2 were positive and 2 were negative. He wasn't kind in his assessment of that incident.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, sometime in the future, he decides to follow Trump's paradigm and run for president.



Bear, I think he was born in South Africa, wouldn't he be ineligible?


I didn't know that.  Darn.  He sure seems to have balls.  Even if he is a Democrat, maybe a guy like that as a Democrat senator would break up the ChiCom collaborators in the DNC.....say a Democrat version of Trump.  Crack a few skulls, if you will.  It would sure make for good entertainment.

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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2020-12-09 5:23 PM
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Bear - 2020-12-09 4:57 PM

texpat - 2020-12-09 4:35 PM

Bear - 2020-12-09 2:24 PM

Frodo - 2020-12-09 12:09 PM

I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............

 

He's moving to Texas and his foundation will be in Texas, but his auto plants are in Palo Alto, and elsewhere in California.  I haven't heard or read anything about him relocating those plants.  His foundation is worth something like $400 million.  That's small potatoes when you consider his net worth is about $140 billion.  He didn't become the second wealthiest man on the planet by making emotional, knee-jerk reactions.  It's not like he operates a BBQ trailer that he can simply roll over to Texas. His SpaceX work might have something to do with his moving to Texas and he has a factory in Austin.  He thinks California is corrupt and messed up.  

He may be eccentric, and somewhat liberal/libertarian, and he may be an environmentalist, but I like some of his ideas and his guts.  He's obviously a free market capitalist.  His cars are all made in the USA....at least the ones he sells in the USA.  I think he does make some cars in China, but his cars here are all 100% made in the USA.  
Musk is not afraid to be a renegade and speak his mind either.  I suppose when you are worth $140 billion you can afford to be painfully candid.  He has made a lot of remarks about Covid19 that have triggered the snowflakes.  For example, he was tested 4 times for Covid in the same day....2 were positive and 2 were negative. He wasn't kind in his assessment of that incident.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, sometime in the future, he decides to follow Trump's paradigm and run for president.

Bear, I think he was born in South Africa, wouldn't he be ineligible?

I didn't know that.  Darn.  He sure seems to have balls.  Even if he is a Democrat, maybe a guy like that as a Democrat senator would break up the ChiCom collaborators in the DNC.....say a Democrat version of Trump.  Crack a few skulls, if you will.  It would sure make for good entertainment.

He is a free-thinker and would probably be an excellent choice. He was also one of the founding members of PayPal, subsequently selling PayPal to EBay. His funds from the PayPal sale were used to buy into Tesla.



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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-09 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: california



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texpat - 2020-12-09 5:23 PM


Bear - 2020-12-09 4:57 PM


texpat - 2020-12-09 4:35 PM


Bear - 2020-12-09 2:24 PM


Frodo - 2020-12-09 12:09 PM


I see where Elon Musk is moving Tesla to Texas.   Newsom thought he was only kidding but he's doing it.  Think of the employees who may have no interest in moving to Texas who will be out of jobs.  Way to destroy a beautiful state.............


 



He's moving to Texas and his foundation will be in Texas, but his auto plants are in Palo Alto, and elsewhere in California.  I haven't heard or read anything about him relocating those plants.  His foundation is worth something like $400 million.  That's small potatoes when you consider his net worth is about $140 billion.  He didn't become the second wealthiest man on the planet by making emotional, knee-jerk reactions.  It's not like he operates a BBQ trailer that he can simply roll over to Texas. His SpaceX work might have something to do with his moving to Texas and he has a factory in Austin.  He thinks California is corrupt and messed up.  


He may be eccentric, and somewhat liberal/libertarian, and he may be an environmentalist, but I like some of his ideas and his guts.  He's obviously a free market capitalist.  His cars are all made in the USA....at least the ones he sells in the USA.  I think he does make some cars in China, but his cars here are all 100% made in the USA.  
Musk is not afraid to be a renegade and speak his mind either.  I suppose when you are worth $140 billion you can afford to be painfully candid.  He has made a lot of remarks about Covid19 that have triggered the snowflakes.  For example, he was tested 4 times for Covid in the same day....2 were positive and 2 were negative. He wasn't kind in his assessment of that incident.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, sometime in the future, he decides to follow Trump's paradigm and run for president.



Bear, I think he was born in South Africa, wouldn't he be ineligible?



I didn't know that.  Darn.  He sure seems to have balls.  Even if he is a Democrat, maybe a guy like that as a Democrat senator would break up the ChiCom collaborators in the DNC.....say a Democrat version of Trump.  Crack a few skulls, if you will.  It would sure make for good entertainment.



He is a free-thinker and would probably be an excellent choice. He was also one of the founding members of PayPal.


The guy is really a genius and a hustler who isn't afraid to think outside the box.  Have you ever watched the launching of a SpaceX Dragon?  Not long ago NASA was launching space shuttles at $1.5 billion a pop.  The SpaceX Dragon costs about $200 million per launch.  Not only that, but the boosters return to earth to land on drone-platforms at sea, so they are re-used.  That's the kind of American ingenuity that should make anyone proud.  No wonder the Chinese Communist Party wants to steal our intellectual property.  

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-09 6:42 PM
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wouldn't you know it.  I see where a SpaceX test flight just blew up.

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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-12-10 11:46 AM
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The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.

One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 

Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.

 

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JasonBailey
Reg. Dec 2020
Posted 2020-12-11 7:50 AM
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JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM

The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.

One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 

Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.

 

Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)



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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-12-11 9:04 AM
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I believe we are taking precautions.  Last night on FOX the head over the Border Patrol spoke.  Because Biden has promised no deportations for at least 100 days, plus free health care, and everything else you can think of, illegals are flooding the borders.  4000 Border Patrol agents have at one time or another tested positive for Covid and 17 have died.  Again these Central American countries are sending unaccompanied minors to the border and nearly 12 percent are testing positive.  How many adults do you think are positive. cross illegally, and could care less if they spread their disease here.

There is no way to beat this until the borders are completely shut down.  State with the lowest Covid stats......Hawaii.

 

 

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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2020-12-11 1:26 PM
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we do vote red....I'm telling our elections are rigged..................................................you can't believe all the trump signs and flags.............

 

we are just as fired up as everyone else..................................

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-11 1:51 PM
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JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM


The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.


One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 


Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.


 



Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)


No it won't "disappear" even if everyone followed the "precautions".  Even with President Trump's amazing Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines, this virus won't be effectively eliminated as a significant lethal threat to the most vulnerable until 90% or so are rendered immune.  You can accomplish that either through a vaccine or acquiring immunity directly through the virus itself.  Locking people up, shutting down businesses, and isolating them and mask mandates won't even come close.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-12-11 3:49 PM
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JasonBailey - 2020-12-11 7:50 AM



JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM


The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.


One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 


Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.


 



Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)


Now that is just a stupid remark, what did the people of the United States not do right? Why would you think the Covid was going to disappear on its own, its never going to just disappear. How much more is America going to beable to take if we are shut down AGAIN!!! What are we suppose to do? 

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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-12-11 4:52 PM
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Bear - 2020-12-11 12:51 PM


JasonBailey - 2020-12-11 7:50 AM



JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM


The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.


One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 


Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.


 



Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)



No it won't "disappear" even if everyone followed the "precautions".  Even with President Trump's amazing Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines, this virus won't be effectively eliminated as a significant lethal threat to the most vulnerable until 90% or so are rendered immune.  You can accomplish that either through a vaccine or acquiring immunity directly through the virus itself.  Locking people up, shutting down businesses, and isolating them and mask mandates won't even come close.


Thank you Bear. I've been at work and hadn't got on to reply to JasonBailey but you said everything I was going to. 

 

When is enough, enough! Let people make their own decisions. If they want to stay home, let them, if they don't want to wear masks then that should be fine too. 

The mandate has finally hit Wyoming, I was honestly shocked the Governor did a statewide mandate. 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-12-11 5:54 PM
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Bear - 2020-12-11 12:51 PM


JasonBailey - 2020-12-11 7:50 AM



JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM


The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.


One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 


Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.


 



Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)



No it won't "disappear" even if everyone followed the "precautions".  Even with President Trump's amazing Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines, this virus won't be effectively eliminated as a significant lethal threat to the most vulnerable until 90% or so are rendered immune.  You can accomplish that either through a vaccine or acquiring immunity directly through the virus itself.  Locking people up, shutting down businesses, and isolating them and mask mandates won't even come close.



Thank you Bear. I've been at work and hadn't got on to reply to JasonBailey but you said everything I was going to. 


 


When is enough, enough! Let people make their own decisions. If they want to stay home, let them, if they don't want to wear masks then that should be fine too. 


The mandate has finally hit Wyoming, I was honestly shocked the Governor did a statewide mandate. 


I'm guessing he's a troll.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-12-11 6:41 PM
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Bear - 2020-12-11 5:54 PM


JcNhEmI - 2020-12-11 4:52 PM


Bear - 2020-12-11 12:51 PM


JasonBailey - 2020-12-11 7:50 AM



JcNhEmI - 2020-12-10 11:46 AM


The company I work for has our corporate office in California, most of the people out there are over all the lock downs and bullsh*t.


One gal was whining about the lock down and how she just found out lock downs won't make it go away just slow it down, and how she heard everyone is going to get it eventually. 


Like seriously. . . we've been in this 9+ months and you thought this whole time the virus would magically disappear if you stay home.


 



Yes, everyone expected it to disappear by itself :D Yes, it would be if everyone followed all the precautions x)



No it won't "disappear" even if everyone followed the "precautions".  Even with President Trump's amazing Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines, this virus won't be effectively eliminated as a significant lethal threat to the most vulnerable until 90% or so are rendered immune.  You can accomplish that either through a vaccine or acquiring immunity directly through the virus itself.  Locking people up, shutting down businesses, and isolating them and mask mandates won't even come close.



Thank you Bear. I've been at work and hadn't got on to reply to JasonBailey but you said everything I was going to. 


 


When is enough, enough! Let people make their own decisions. If they want to stay home, let them, if they don't want to wear masks then that should be fine too. 


The mandate has finally hit Wyoming, I was honestly shocked the Governor did a statewide mandate. 



I'm guessing he's a troll.


Seems like someone could be incognito,

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L.Grace
Reg. Aug 2019
Posted 2020-12-14 10:06 PM
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We have that same problem here in Washington. King and Pirce county decide who in our govonor and its always a democrat. All other counies go red. So frustrating to keep voting for someone who is destroying our state by keeping everything shut down. Thankfully I live on the East side known as the rual side and we have been keeping things open over here per against govonors orders. People are loosing everything.  

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Frodo
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Posted 2020-12-17 1:33 PM
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Looks like citizens of California are trying to remove Gov. Newsom from office.  Good move  !!!  

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Posted 2020-12-18 11:51 AM
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Frodo - 2020-12-17 12:33 PM


Looks like citizens of California are trying to remove Gov. Newsom from office.  Good move  !!!  


My friend was in California a few weeks ago, she said she couldn't believe the amount of Trump flags flying.

I really hope they can get that grease stain out of there!

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