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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-03 12:41 PM
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i can not get to copy paste  but type it in scarey has hell

 

if passes can 

round up detain force you to get vacine  give the governor   rpower  don/t take my word read it  the wording frightning    hello l to a hitler regine

 

this is a preview of democtatic

 

www. nysenate.gov//legislation/bills/2021/a416

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-03 1:34 PM
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I don't know.  I've been told it's a good idea by my Democrat friends.  Governor Cuomo got the idea rolling last summer in nursing homes, but the Obamunists have a better "final solution".  In fact, they are building some new state-of-the-art facilities.



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Posted 2021-01-03 1:46 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMuLJsVJRk

 

Tim Pool just posted this today. 1/3/2020 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-03 2:23 PM
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"When fascism comes to the United States it will be disguised as liberalism."

- Ronald Reagan

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RockyMountainRacer
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As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?

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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?


"Never Forget". Isn't that the slogan? The photos support the slogan, so you can'r have it both ways.

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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
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texpat - 2021-01-03 1:54 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



"Never Forget". Isn't that the slogan? The photos support the slogan, so you can'r have it both ways.


I don't want people to forget. The problem is that people are substituting delusions for reality, and that can be dangerous and highly offensive.

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-03 3:40 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?


Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  

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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2021-01-03 4:51 PM
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Bear - 2021-01-03 4:40 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  


 

 

So Dr. Scott - I was just thinking of you very much as my hubby read this new, uh, I have no word but the overused idiocy to me.

Tell me, how are like minded people going to keep in contact if/when poop really hits the fan?? Our phones can be controlled, our online communications can be controlled, most cars are smart and can be controlled, and they've got businesses over a barrel on us meeting in the usual pubs, restaraunts, churches, etc. So HOW do we get in contact with someone who could legitimately lead a revolution? 

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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-03 6:28 PM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2021-01-03 4:51 PM


Bear - 2021-01-03 4:40 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  



 


 


So Dr. Scott - I was just thinking of you very much as my hubby read this new, uh, I have no word but the overused idiocy to me.


Tell me, how are like minded people going to keep in contact if/when poop really hits the fan?? Our phones can be controlled, our online communications can be controlled, most cars are smart and can be controlled, and they've got businesses over a barrel on us meeting in the usual pubs, restaraunts, churches, etc. So HOW do we get in contact with someone who could legitimately lead a revolution? 


What you are describing has a few assumptions that I don't necessarily agree with, but basically you are describing a doomsday scenario, of sorts, with widespread interruptions of communication, disabling of most motorized travel, etc...  It's a little like what we've been told, in the event of an EMP attack where virtually everything electronic would be fried: planes, cars, trucks, trains, electrical grids, hospitals, TV and radio transmissions,  most generators, pacemakers, insulin pumps, dialysis machines, and so forth.  That kind of catastrophe seems extremely unlikely.  I don't know how many vehicles can actually be controlled remotely.  I know some can be disabled. 
Basically, you are asking me what would happen if we had a second civil war.  I realized that increasingly people have been talking about it. I actually think that is unlikely, but I think what we would see is a kind of widespread outbreak of sectarian political conflicts.  Liberal socialists are very concentrated in densely populated urban centers.  I don't think they would do very well.  Of course, that sort of thing would play into China's hands.  I do think we can expect to see increasing instances of unrest.  The leftist Antifa and BLM groups have been promoting it, and they had best be careful, lest their wish is granted.  Scary as it may sound, but based on history, realistically I only see one thing that could actually reunite the vast majority of Americans,......war.  Historically, wars have brought the country together.  Even for the first 3 years of Vietnam, the country was actually very supportive of the effort. All in all, it's a sad prospect, when you think about it.  The reality is that a war or conflict with China is an increasingly real possibility.....unless we surrender ourselves to them without a fight, and that might be why Joe Biden was the chosen one.  
None of these scenarios are very optimistic, I realize.  The best advice I could give right now is to keep fighting the good fight right here at home, be prepared, and hope for the best, even though the divisions keep getting wider and deeper.

 

 

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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2021-01-03 6:57 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 3:35 PM


texpat - 2021-01-03 1:54 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



"Never Forget". Isn't that the slogan? The photos support the slogan, so you can'r have it both ways.



I don't want people to forget. The problem is that people are substituting delusions for reality, and that can be dangerous and highly offensive.


In the words of Joan Rivers....Oh please.  Slowly and gradually, the liberals are working to make us all dependent on big govt. and with big govt., comes big control.  

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-03 7:03 PM
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One of the more frightening videos I've seen since election day was a room full of Communist Chinese "leaders" totally giddy at the prospect of Joe Biden as president of the U.S.  I believe a plan came together for them beautifully.

A close second was a group of illegals forcing their way through a border crossing yelling "Joe Biden, Joe Biden."  

 



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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2021-01-03 7:40 PM
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Bear - 2021-01-03 7:28 PM


lonely va barrelxr - 2021-01-03 4:51 PM


Bear - 2021-01-03 4:40 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  



 


 


So Dr. Scott - I was just thinking of you very much as my hubby read this new, uh, I have no word but the overused idiocy to me.


Tell me, how are like minded people going to keep in contact if/when poop really hits the fan?? Our phones can be controlled, our online communications can be controlled, most cars are smart and can be controlled, and they've got businesses over a barrel on us meeting in the usual pubs, restaraunts, churches, etc. So HOW do we get in contact with someone who could legitimately lead a revolution? 



What you are describing has a few assumptions that I don't necessarily agree with, but basically you are describing a doomsday scenario, of sorts, with widespread interruptions of communication, disabling of most motorized travel, etc...  It's a little like what we've been told, in the event of an EMP attack where virtually everything electronic would be fried: planes, cars, trucks, trains, electrical grids, hospitals, TV and radio transmissions,  most generators, pacemakers, insulin pumps, dialysis machines, and so forth.  That kind of catastrophe seems extremely unlikely.  I don't know how many vehicles can actually be controlled remotely.  I know some can be disabled. 
Basically, you are asking me what would happen if we had a second civil war.  I realized that increasingly people have been talking about it. I actually think that is unlikely, but I think what we would see is a kind of widespread outbreak of sectarian political conflicts.  Liberal socialists are very concentrated in densely populated urban centers.  I don't think they would do very well.  Of course, that sort of thing would play into China's hands.  I do think we can expect to see increasing instances of unrest.  The leftist Antifa and BLM groups have been promoting it, and they had best be careful, lest their wish is granted.  Scary as it may sound, but based on history, realistically I only see one thing that could actually reunite the vast majority of Americans,......war.  Historically, wars have brought the country together.  Even for the first 3 years of Vietnam, the country was actually very supportive of the effort. All in all, it's a sad prospect, when you think about it.  The reality is that a war or conflict with China is an increasingly real possibility.....unless we surrender ourselves to them without a fight, and that might be why Joe Biden was the chosen one.  
None of these scenarios are very optimistic, I realize.  The best advice I could give right now is to keep fighting the good fight right here at home, be prepared, and hope for the best, even though the divisions keep getting wider and deeper.


 


 


 

 

Yes and no on all that. Yes, true end-of-world as we know it would be one extreme. But I'm talking about resistance or maybe something like a civil war level. With all the 'smart' technology there is nothing that can't be known of who we gather with and where. Or even what is talked about. Smart TV's listen, Alexa listens, phones listen and track, cars listen and track. Big Bro-ish stuff. Remember that I live almost dead center of politics and I am concerned with voicing my opinions in my area. I seriously do not speak to people except at my barrel shows! I'm not a paranoid person at all, but around here the libs outnumber conservatives in a scary way. I joke about having the cops called if you're outside, in your own yard, without a mask, but it has happened one county in and all the other counties directly touching DC. I'm only one county out from the center of the swamp!

I doubt there will be an end-of-world scenario, but there's no doubt the USA is undergoing some permanent unflattering changes. I wish I understood who stands to gain from such a terrible recession, possible even a depression to make '29 look tame. Who gains from socialism? 

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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2021-01-03 11:23 PM
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Bear - 2021-01-03 2:40 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  


Frankly, I don't care if you don't like the proposition. It sounds like it wouldn't go anywhere anyway, since it seems to go against a person's medical autonomy. What I do care about is the fact that none of you seem to know anything about the history you are trying to reference, which is incredibly frightening. 

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Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.

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Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2021-01-04 12:25 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:25 PM


Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.


I only quoted this statement, but also in reply to your above comment, I again say "oh please!"

You are a typical elitist, "woke" liberal.  Please educate all of us 8th grade dropouts with your wisdom. 

Excuse me while I join my toothless, hillbilly friends on this forum to go smoke our corn cob pipes and play the spoons.  

 

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Reg. Jul 2004
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:25 PM


Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.


You mean those right wings protesters/Nazis who burn businesses, loot stores, intimidate home owners and burn the American flag........oh wait, that's Antifa and BLM, left wing groups.  When you see violence at a right wing protest it's because left wing groups show up to spoil the party and hurt people.

 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-04 7:38 AM
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history repears its self  look at rome  

 

the ny york bill is passable  in that state   and its scarey  look at ohio 2019 courts tooks away a  a child  a teen because they wanted to be transgender

 

took away from parents  does a child or teen know what they are no they don/t 2016 too that is ohio

 

to who ever mention emp  i firmly believe it will happen  to much talk about it for it not to happen

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Posted 2021-01-04 7:52 AM
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To the liberal decrying a comparison between this bill and the holocaust...

So if Cuomo and DeBlasio get tired of the Orthodox Jews attending synagogue against their orders... As that could mean "they are or may be a danger to public health" they can place that group of Jewish citizens in an "appropriate detainment facility".

I feel like i have read this story before...

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Posted 2021-01-04 8:26 AM
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Frodo - 2021-01-04 6:14 AM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:25 PM


Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.



You mean those right wings protesters/Nazis who burn businesses, loot stores, intimidate home owners and burn the American flag........oh wait, that's Antifa and BLM, left wing groups.  When you see violence at a right wing protest it's because left wing groups show up to spoil the party and hurt people.


 


I'm actually talking about the ones making Nazi salutes and wearing shirts that say "6 million wasn't enough". And the whole Parteiadler being cartoonized and sold on Trump merch ain't great, honestly. It's a pretty obvious dog whistle.

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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-04 8:39 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:23 PM


Bear - 2021-01-03 2:40 PM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 2:31 PM


As somebody who has lost family members in thre Holocaust AND to this virus, this is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know math can be hard for y'all, but history really shouldn't be, and neither should critical thinking. Any middle schools who would let you into their world history Zoom classrooms?



Nope not ashamed one bit.  You can shove your liberal virtual signaling.  It won't work with me.  You are offended?  Good.  Read the wording of this proposed legislation.  Use your limited imagination.  This kind of thing scares the hell out of people.  I'm glad you are offended.  This is some Orwellian sh!t.  This has absolutely nothing to do with your deceased relative.  This legislation is baseless and will only add to the tragedy of this pandemic.  Just to refresh your memory, we've done things like this in the USA in the past.....are you aware?  If so, tell me.  



Frankly, I don't care if you don't like the proposition. It sounds like it wouldn't go anywhere anyway, since it seems to go against a person's medical autonomy. What I do care about is the fact that none of you seem to know anything about the history you are trying to reference, which is incredibly frightening. 


So you couldn't answer my question, although you seem to be of the attitude that you ought to decide who is qualified to teach history to kids over Zoom.  Let me assist you in answering that question you conspicuously ignored.  You seem to like the proposition of whisking people off to detention centers.  Do YOU like it?  Would you vote in favor of this?  If so, why?  I asked you if we have ever done this before, and you completely ignored my question.  I assume because your google search came up empty.  I'll help you along.....yes, we have done this before.  Do you know when? 
I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.  You need time to research more.

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Reg. Jul 2004
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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-04 8:26 AM


Frodo - 2021-01-04 6:14 AM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:25 PM


Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.



You mean those right wings protesters/Nazis who burn businesses, loot stores, intimidate home owners and burn the American flag........oh wait, that's Antifa and BLM, left wing groups.  When you see violence at a right wing protest it's because left wing groups show up to spoil the party and hurt people.


 



I'm actually talking about the ones making Nazi salutes and wearing shirts that say "6 million wasn't enough". And the whole Parteiadler being cartoonized and sold on Trump merch ain't great, honestly. It's a pretty obvious dog whistle.


Admit I don't get far from home, but I've never seen any of this.

 

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RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-04 8:26 AM


Frodo - 2021-01-04 6:14 AM


RockyMountainRacer - 2021-01-03 11:25 PM


Nazism is a problem in our country (as we have seen in recent right-wing protests... 6MWE, anybody?), but I don't think you guys have any idea what it is or what it stands for.



You mean those right wings protesters/Nazis who burn businesses, loot stores, intimidate home owners and burn the American flag........oh wait, that's Antifa and BLM, left wing groups.  When you see violence at a right wing protest it's because left wing groups show up to spoil the party and hurt people.


 



I'm actually talking about the ones making Nazi salutes and wearing shirts that say "6 million wasn't enough". And the whole Parteiadler being cartoonized and sold on Trump merch ain't great, honestly. It's a pretty obvious dog whistle.


Anyone making Nazi salutes and wearing shirts with anti Semitic slogans is a prick. Pricks are everywhere.  Incendiary speech, slogans, gestures, and symbols are ubiquitous.  Nonetheless, free speech is protected.  I'm guessing if you had your way, people would be punished in some way for using an unacceptable gender-specific pronoun.  

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
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world war 2  we took japense intoo camps in calif   mass hesteria  

 

i exceled in history  

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vjls - 2021-01-04 9:48 AM

world war 2  we took japense intoo camps in calif   mass hesteria  

 

i exceled in history  

Shush!  She was looking it up!  Now you done ruined it. Of course that was a Democrat executive order (FDR) that put tens of thousands into forced detention centers (essentially concentration camps) simply because they had slanted eyes.  Here's the deal though.  What FDR did was he went along with the mob rule mentality back then.  It's actually somewhat understandable, under the circumstances, but grotesquely unjust.  Those Japanese Americans were loyal patriots whose sons fought as a segregated unit in Europe and became the most decorated unit of WWII.  Since then, Japanese Americans remained loyal, hard working, and patriotic.  



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vjls
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if you hae too look up ur history in ur own country your ....  we are with this covid crap gonna  have a generation of kids  not knowing anything

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