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| WHY is that a racial slur i am bewildered https://www.aol.com/sports/trainer-eric-guillot-banned-giving-155226881.html the horse name is grape soda and the trainer is now banned |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | I tried to find something on the internet and all I could find was that grape soda is "stereotypically" associated with blacks. New one on me. That might explain why Radar O'Reilly always ordered Grape Nehi instead of Grape Soda, but then there was a character on MASH named Spearchucker. This wonderful show would never get away with that today.
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Miracle in the Making
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| eric guillot was banned for racist grape soda ran and won aqueduct |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I love grape soda. Seriously. I also love watermelon and fried chicken. Sh!t like this is just nuts. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | Bear - 2021-01-10 8:21 PM I love grape soda. Seriously. I also love watermelon and fried chicken. Sh!t like this is just nuts. I guess if you "love" grape soda everything is hunky dory, but if you "hate" grape soda, you're one of those soda pop racists.
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Go Get Em!
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     Location: OH. IO | I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM
I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.
Because oreos are racist? |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I love my Cream Soda and Root Beer, So I wonder, am I a racist?  |
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Go Get Em!
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     Location: OH. IO | Barnmom - 2021-01-11 10:50 AM
jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM
I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.
Because oreos are racist?
Yes,apparently they are,the ONLY thing that saved my job was the company sold ores in their vending machines! |
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         Location: LouLouVille, OK | Odd... when the chocolate to nilla ratio is 2:1  thats the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile and so is the grape soda..
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Go Get Em!
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     Location: OH. IO | cindyt - 2021-01-11 11:13 AM
Odd... when the chocolate to nilla ratio is 2:1  thats the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile and so is the grape soda..
Right,in the end,the guy that made such a stink over it died of a drug overdose |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:05 AM
Barnmom - 2021-01-11 10:50 AM
jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM
I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.
Because oreos are racist?
Yes,apparently they are,the ONLY thing that saved my job was the company sold ores in their vending machines!
Oh my! My sons school is probably 85% black. In the halftime show at football games, they have two "big" black kids and one "big" white kid get out and dance in front of the band. They call it the "Double stuffed oreo show" it is freaking hilarious, I am probably one of ten white people in the stands and everyone loves it. People seriously need to get over themselves and most of them are white! Most of the black people I know think all this woke BS is stupid. |
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Our son's diversity training included instructions to not use the phrase "tipping point" as it has racist undertones. |
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        Location: CTX | Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-11 9:53 AM
I love my Cream Soda and Root Beer, So I wonder, am I a racist? 
Guess I'm racist too then.... Love those soda's!! Also, love Big Red.... is that an issue now too??    |
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Miracle in the Making
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| jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:43 AM
I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.
are you blanking kidding seriusly oreo cookies |
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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv. So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. I am soooo over this ****.... unhinged-pot calling kettle black grape soda-refreshing kids drink Amen.... not about gender just reverence Stop making words into something else. some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning. I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries.  |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Milk is racist too, but my conscience is clear because I love chocolate milk. Seriously, this "woke" rage is incredibly insane. Who makes this sh!t up? I am tempted to start a thread about "fad words" and "fad expressions". All my life I've been amused by that kind of thing. Where does it start? |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | Cassius Clay had a whole list of racial baloney and for the life of me I can only remember two of them. White cowboy hat..........good guy Black cowboy hat..........bad guy Angel food cake..............white Devils food cake..........black |
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        Location: Ky | It was stupid to ban him but there is more to the story, as if anyone here cares. The trainer said he was changing the name in honor of a black announcer. So he did have racil overtones. It seems on the surface that it may have been a joke between the two? But no one has said that. It's an over reaction just like everything today. But it wasn't as simple as a guy changing the name out of nowhere either. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jd&ez - 2021-01-11 1:25 PM
It was stupid to ban him but there is more to the story, as if anyone here cares. The trainer said he was changing the name in honor of a black announcer. So he did have racil overtones. It seems on the surface that it may have been a joke between the two? But no one has said that. It's an over reaction just like everything today. But it wasn't as simple as a guy changing the name out of nowhere either.
You just repeated what luluwhit said.. |
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| luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM
So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv. So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse.
I am soooo over this ****....
unhinged-pot calling kettle black
grape soda-refreshing kids drink
Amen.... not about gender just reverence
Stop making words into something else. some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning. I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 
Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:23 PM
luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM
So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv. So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse.
I am soooo over this ****....
unhinged-pot calling kettle black
grape soda-refreshing kids drink
Amen.... not about gender just reverence
Stop making words into something else. some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning. I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 
Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.
If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer.. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | vjls - 2021-01-11 11:48 AM jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:43 AM I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours. are you blanking kidding seriusly oreo cookies I'm with you. I keep thinking "please say you're kidding." I remember when a friend got in a lot of trouble who worked with the County. You know the term "jerry-rigged" often used as "N_____-rigged" years ago. Well, without thinking she used that second one talking about her husband working on her car. A black co-worker felt she had to report this to supervision and it was just sad and unnecessary. This sweet lady meant nothing detrimental.
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     Location: North Dakota | I would be glad to have a horse named after me lol even if it was because they didn't like me. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-11 2:27 PM
KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:23 PM
luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM
So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv. So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse.
I am soooo over this ****....
unhinged-pot calling kettle black
grape soda-refreshing kids drink
Amen.... not about gender just reverence
Stop making words into something else. some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning. I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 
Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.
If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer..
I'm still asking my origional question. Has the trainer explained anywhere how the name was in "honor" of the analyist. I understand the " negative connotation" behind grape soda. I've read some of the trainer's comments and tweets about the situation, I just wondered if I had missed an explination of how this could be anything but a racist slur given the apparent amniosity between the two. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:48 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-11 2:27 PM
KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:23 PM
luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM
So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv. So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse.
I am soooo over this ****....
unhinged-pot calling kettle black
grape soda-refreshing kids drink
Amen.... not about gender just reverence
Stop making words into something else. some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning. I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 
Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.
If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer..
I'm still asking my origional question. Has the trainer explained anywhere how the name was in "honor" of the analyist. I understand the " negative connotation" behind grape soda. I've read some of the trainer's comments and tweets about the situation, I just wondered if I had missed an explination of how this could be anything but a racist slur given the apparent amniosity between the two.
It would interesting to know though how a bottle of soda becomes a racial slur....a grape flavored carbonated drink. Chocolate Soldier maybe I could understand a little but geez. |
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| As i understand it- 1st tweet from trainer "This colt will run next week and has a unique name in honor of a TVG analyst". That comment was followed by a black fist emoji 2nd tweet anwsering a question about what the colts name was "grape soda" next day was a tweet about the "horse's workout was menthol kool" and a black thumbs up emoji The trainer origionally said that the name was because of his love of grape soda as a child, but later gave an interview where he claimed "I did nothing wrong but be a common comedian, and my skin is a little too light to be joking about grape sodas, thats all. If Chris Rock or David Chappelle had said it, it would be ok" While I don't attempt to say I know why someone did a specific action/ or made a specific comment (only that person can answer that) - it seems like the trainer made a serious effort to bring in the "black" part of the issue. The words "grape soda" or "menthol Kool" alone - I don't see the racial slur. Accompinied by the specific black emojis, other comments, and the known amniosity between them??? Optics do seem to be sliding that way. You can judge for yourself how you feel about it. |
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     Location: Back in California | I HAD NO idea that was even a thing. OMG. this is crazy. When I was pregnant with my 2nd child. . .I CRAVED grape soda like crazy. |
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       Location: Bennett, CO | Delta Cowgirl - 2021-01-11 10:28 AM
Our son's diversity training included instructions to not use the phrase "tipping point" as it has racist undertones.
I was given a serious talking to for referencing a "flip chart" during a presentation. Apparently it has Phillipino racial undertones. |
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       Location: Bennett, CO | KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:48 PM
As i understand it-
1st tweet from trainer "This colt will run next week and has a unique name in honor of a TVG analyst". That comment was followed by a black fist emoji
2nd tweet anwsering a question about what the colts name was "grape soda"
next day was a tweet about the "horse's workout was menthol kool" and a black thumbs up emoji
The trainer origionally said that the name was because of his love of grape soda as a child, but later gave an interview where he claimed "I did nothing wrong but be a common comedian, and my skin is a little too light to be joking about grape sodas, thats all. If Chris Rock or David Chappelle had said it, it would be ok"
While I don't attempt to say I know why someone did a specific action/ or made a specific comment (only that person can answer that) - it seems like the trainer made a serious effort to bring in the "black" part of the issue. The words "grape soda" or "menthol Kool" alone - I don't see the racial slur. Accompinied by the specific black emojis, other comments, and the known amniosity between them??? Optics do seem to be sliding that way. You can judge for yourself how you feel about it.
That's a different situation then. If there was a negative spin on it - then shame on the trainer I misunder and thought maybe it was a light hearted banter |
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