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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-10 12:59 PM
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WHY  is that a racial slur  i am  bewildered

 

 

https://www.aol.com/sports/trainer-eric-guillot-banned-giving-155226881.html

 

the horse name is grape soda and the trainer is now banned

 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-10 6:54 PM
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I tried to find something on the internet and all I could find was that grape soda is "stereotypically" associated with blacks.  New one on me.  

That might explain why Radar O'Reilly always ordered Grape Nehi instead of Grape Soda, but then there was a character on MASH named Spearchucker.  This wonderful show would never get away with that today.

 

 

 

 



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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-10 8:20 PM
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eric guillot was banned  for racist grape soda ran and won  aqueduct 

 

 

 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-10 8:21 PM
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I love grape soda.  Seriously.  I also love watermelon and fried chicken.  Sh!t like this is just nuts.  

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-10 9:17 PM
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Bear - 2021-01-10 8:21 PM

I love grape soda.  Seriously.  I also love watermelon and fried chicken.  Sh!t like this is just nuts.  

I guess if you "love" grape soda everything is hunky dory, but if you "hate" grape soda, you're one of those soda pop racists.  



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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 9:43 AM
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I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.



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Reg. May 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 9:50 AM
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jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM


I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.


Because  oreos are racist?

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 9:53 AM
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I love my Cream Soda and Root Beer, So I wonder, am I a racist?

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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 10:05 AM
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Barnmom - 2021-01-11 10:50 AM


jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM


I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.



Because  oreos are racist?


Yes,apparently they are,the ONLY thing that saved my job was the company sold ores in their vending machines!

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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2021-01-11 10:13 AM
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Odd... when the chocolate to nilla ratio is 2:1  thats the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile and so is the grape soda..



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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 10:16 AM
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cindyt - 2021-01-11 11:13 AM


Odd... when the chocolate to nilla ratio is 2:1  thats the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile and so is the grape soda..


Right,in the end,the guy that made such a stink over it died  of a drug overdose

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 10:18 AM
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jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:05 AM


Barnmom - 2021-01-11 10:50 AM


jake16 - 2021-01-11 9:43 AM


I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.



Because  oreos are racist?



Yes,apparently they are,the ONLY thing that saved my job was the company sold ores in their vending machines!


Oh my!  My sons school is probably 85% black.  In the halftime show at football games, they have two "big" black kids and one "big" white kid get out and dance in front of the band.  They call it the "Double stuffed oreo show"  it is freaking hilarious, I am probably one of ten white people in the stands and everyone loves it.  People seriously need to get over themselves and most of them are white!  Most of the black people I know think all this woke BS is stupid.

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2021-01-11 11:28 AM
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Our son's diversity training included instructions to not use the phrase "tipping point" as it has racist undertones. 

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Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2021-01-11 11:34 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-11 9:53 AM


I love my Cream Soda and Root Beer, So I wonder, am I a racist?


Guess I'm racist too then.... Love those soda's!! Also, love Big Red.... is that an issue now too??

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-11 11:48 AM
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jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:43 AM


I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.


are you blanking kidding  seriusly oreo cookies

 

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luluwhit
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2021-01-11 11:49 AM
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So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv.  So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. 

I am soooo over this ****....

unhinged-pot calling kettle black

grape soda-refreshing kids drink

Amen.... not about gender just reverence

Stop making words into something else.  some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning.  I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-11 11:50 AM
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Milk is racist too, but my conscience is clear because I love chocolate milk.

Seriously, this "woke" rage is incredibly insane.  Who makes this sh!t up?

I am tempted to start a thread about "fad words" and "fad expressions".  All my life I've been amused by that kind of thing.  Where does it start?

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-11 12:20 PM
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Cassius Clay had a whole list of racial baloney and for the life of me I can only remember two of them.

White cowboy hat..........good guy             Black cowboy hat..........bad guy

Angel food cake..............white                   Devils food cake..........black

 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2021-01-11 1:25 PM
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It was stupid to ban him but there is more to the story, as if anyone here cares. The trainer said he was changing the name in honor of a black announcer. So he did have racil overtones. It seems on the surface that it may have been a joke between the two? But no one has said that. It's an over reaction just like everything today. But it wasn't as simple as a guy changing the name out of nowhere either. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 1:34 PM
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jd&ez - 2021-01-11 1:25 PM


It was stupid to ban him but there is more to the story, as if anyone here cares. The trainer said he was changing the name in honor of a black announcer. So he did have racil overtones. It seems on the surface that it may have been a joke between the two? But no one has said that. It's an over reaction just like everything today. But it wasn't as simple as a guy changing the name out of nowhere either. 


You just repeated what luluwhit said..

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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2021-01-11 2:23 PM
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luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM


So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv.  So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. 


I am soooo over this ****....


unhinged-pot calling kettle black


grape soda-refreshing kids drink


Amen.... not about gender just reverence


Stop making words into something else.  some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning.  I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 


Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-01-11 2:27 PM
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KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:23 PM


luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM


So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv.  So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. 


I am soooo over this ****....


unhinged-pot calling kettle black


grape soda-refreshing kids drink


Amen.... not about gender just reverence


Stop making words into something else.  some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning.  I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 



Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.


If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer.. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-11 2:30 PM
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vjls - 2021-01-11 11:48 AM

jake16 - 2021-01-11 10:43 AM

I was counceled for having oreo cookies at work.....im serious,i was written up ,and counceled for 3 hours.

are you blanking kidding  seriusly oreo cookies

 

I'm with you.  I keep thinking "please say you're kidding."

I remember when a friend got in a lot of trouble who worked with the County.  You know the term "jerry-rigged" often used as  "N_____-rigged" years ago.  Well, without thinking she used that second one talking about her husband working on her car.  A black co-worker felt she had to report this to supervision and it was just sad and unnecessary.  This sweet lady meant nothing detrimental.



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angelica
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2021-01-11 2:35 PM
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I would be glad to have a horse named after me lol even if it was because they didn't like me.

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Posted 2021-01-11 2:48 PM
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luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM


So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv.  So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. 


I am soooo over this ****....


unhinged-pot calling kettle black


grape soda-refreshing kids drink


Amen.... not about gender just reverence


Stop making words into something else.  some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning.  I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 



Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.



If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer.. 


I'm still asking my origional question. Has the trainer explained anywhere how the name was in "honor" of the analyist. I understand the " negative connotation" behind grape soda. I've read some of the trainer's comments and tweets about the situation, I just wondered if I had missed an explination of how this could be anything but a racist slur given the apparent amniosity between the two.

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-11 3:20 PM
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KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:48 PM


Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-11 2:27 PM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:23 PM


luluwhit - 2021-01-11 11:49 AM


So as I read it the trainer actually admitted he named the horse (with tounge n cheek) in HONOR of a black analyst on htv.  So as i read it he was being a racist ass even tho the horse got the name grape soda and to me who rarely checks to see what words are deemed to "mean something else" I would think that was a really great name....for a horse. 


I am soooo over this ****....


unhinged-pot calling kettle black


grape soda-refreshing kids drink


Amen.... not about gender just reverence


Stop making words into something else.  some of us cant keep up and just want our words back to the orginal meaning.  I dont subscribe to your urban dictionaries. 



Did the trainer ever explain how it was in "honor" of the analyist? Like does the guy actually love grape soda, or why the trainer thought the name was "in honor"of? From the response of the black gentleman, it doesn't seem like they had the friendship basis for playful banter.



If you google Grape Soda it will come up about the trainer.. 



I'm still asking my origional question. Has the trainer explained anywhere how the name was in "honor" of the analyist. I understand the " negative connotation" behind grape soda. I've read some of the trainer's comments and tweets about the situation, I just wondered if I had missed an explination of how this could be anything but a racist slur given the apparent amniosity between the two.


It would interesting to know though how a bottle of soda becomes a racial slur....a grape flavored carbonated drink.   Chocolate Soldier maybe I could understand a little but geez.

 

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Posted 2021-01-11 3:48 PM
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As i understand it-

1st tweet from trainer "This colt will run next week and has a unique name in honor of a TVG analyst". That comment was followed by a black fist emoji

2nd tweet anwsering a question about what the colts name was "grape soda"

next day was a tweet about the "horse's workout was menthol kool" and a black thumbs up emoji

The trainer origionally said that the name was because of his love of grape soda as a child, but later gave an interview where he claimed "I did nothing wrong but be a common comedian, and my skin is a little too light to be joking about grape sodas, thats all. If Chris Rock or David Chappelle had said it, it would be ok"

 

While I don't attempt to say I know why someone did a specific action/ or made a specific comment (only that person can answer that) - it seems like the trainer made a serious effort to bring in the "black" part of the issue. The words "grape soda" or "menthol Kool" alone - I don't see the racial slur. Accompinied by the specific black emojis, other comments, and the known amniosity between them??? Optics do seem to be sliding that way. You can judge for yourself how you feel about it.

 

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Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2021-01-16 8:46 PM
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I  HAD NO idea that was even a thing. OMG.  this is crazy. 

 

When I was pregnant with my 2nd child. . .I CRAVED grape soda like crazy. 

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Delta Cowgirl - 2021-01-11 10:28 AM


Our son's diversity training included instructions to not use the phrase "tipping point" as it has racist undertones. 


I was given a serious talking to for referencing a "flip chart" during a presentation.  Apparently it has Phillipino racial undertones.

 

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KindaClassey - 2021-01-11 2:48 PM


As i understand it-


1st tweet from trainer "This colt will run next week and has a unique name in honor of a TVG analyst". That comment was followed by a black fist emoji


2nd tweet anwsering a question about what the colts name was "grape soda"


next day was a tweet about the "horse's workout was menthol kool" and a black thumbs up emoji


The trainer origionally said that the name was because of his love of grape soda as a child, but later gave an interview where he claimed "I did nothing wrong but be a common comedian, and my skin is a little too light to be joking about grape sodas, thats all. If Chris Rock or David Chappelle had said it, it would be ok"


 


While I don't attempt to say I know why someone did a specific action/ or made a specific comment (only that person can answer that) - it seems like the trainer made a serious effort to bring in the "black" part of the issue. The words "grape soda" or "menthol Kool" alone - I don't see the racial slur. Accompinied by the specific black emojis, other comments, and the known amniosity between them??? Optics do seem to be sliding that way. You can judge for yourself how you feel about it.


 


That's a different situation then. If there was a negative spin on it - then shame on the trainer    I misunder and thought maybe it was a light hearted banter 

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