I am curious on your thoughts on President Bidens actions/policies thus far?  A lot has seemed to unfold in the first week of his presidency.  I would ask Biden voters in my personal life, but to be honest, they are quite hostile and defensive when it comes to politics (I get it) and I just don't want that argument.  I didn't vote for Biden, but I was optimistic about it.

 I am being genuine in wanting to know how you feel, not snarky. Please do not fight each other in the comments

I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 

He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 

Boiled down to the nitty gritty, you have no answers, just 'good feelings'.

I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.

I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.

I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.

Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.

Hasnt done anything yet?  

I am copying and pasting from a friend...  please correct any errors, and ad anything missing.... 

https://www.billoreilly.com/video/video-of-the-day?vid=-537543557486107758

Shows he says there is nothing he can do to change the direction of the pandemic.

And If I remember correctly he was allllll over Trump about it, and his "mis handling" of it...   now says this. 

Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.

His words are so comforting.  Yesterday he remarked about masks being more important than vaccines.    The guy is totally obsessed with masking.

Per what I have read....................The symbolism behind masking is admitting defeat to a Victorous Organization. Or something to that effect. Anyway Ya'll get the idea, that wearing a mask is submission. This is per historical symbolism that I have seen commented upon.

That honestly doesn't suprise me...

I dont wear them

I don't wear one either. The one time I did to fly, I got sick. ?? 

Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.

Ya, Canada is not suing the US, or Biden, or anyone else in the Government. Alberta's Premier is spouting off, but he doesn't have the support of any other provinces.

I wondered on that one, but I truly don't even watch the news (which I hear has done a 180 in the last week) but thank you!  

Honestly, I did NOT vote for Biden.  

However, I didn't think that the first week would be this bad.   Cutting the pipeline and re-joining the Paris deal are bad news. 

My heart breaks for all of the girls in sports who are dang good athletes, but simply won't be able to outdo a male who grows his hair out and says he's gal.   Not to mention when grown men "gay" or not are in locker rooms with them. 

Not to mention spending millions to send to another country to help them build a border wall and then wanting to rip ours down.  

I just saw a congolomeration post on FB about Twitter exploding with unhappy Biden voter posts.  Mostly regret with my same sentiments.  Didn't think it would be this bad, can't believe he turned on us (union voter), he said this, but did that, types of comments. 

If voters followed the campaigns Biden told us exactly what he was going to do,  and he is doing it now.  I do not understand the regret thing, Biden voters should have known what they were voting for and are reaping the "benifits".  He does have a 47 year track record.

I did not vote for Biden.

Even if the Biden voters didnt vote for Biden, he still would have won.. The Dems made darn sure he was going to win no matter what, and we all know what the no matter what meant. Trump was going to lose even with having the most votes, Biden would still win even with the least amount of votes.

His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.

I agree.   

They stole the presidency.  They stole the senate seats.  

But I would like to see just how happy our Biden "orange man bad" supporters feel now.     I sure hope they don't wish for $5-7 fuel, lots of illegal immigrants taking up space, jobs, etc and our country being sold out. 

My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.

Honestly- I feel the same way. I expected the backlash against Trump policies. I figured it would be ugly. I wasn't remotly surprised.  But it's very disheartening that this individual who ran on "bringing the country back together agin" did so many things to seperate even more right off the bat. Maybe my perspective of right/wrong is scewed. Maybe I'm too ignorant to know what it is going to take to get this country back together again. Lord knows the problems are multi-layered and nuanced. There probably is no single answer for what is the right way. But it doesn't seem like a positive start.

I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 

I'm really surprised only one Biden support has come forward so far? There were a lot of people quite passionate about him a couple months ago, would love their input.

My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.

Ditto

"Illegal immigrants should be counted in the Census. The Census is used to apportion money - more people equals more need for funding. It doesn't matter where the people came from or what their status is. They are still using the roads."

I strongly disagree with this premise and this statement.  The goal of the census is to count citizens.  Illegal immigrants are here illegally.  They are not citizens.  It is not entirely flawed logic to include illegal residents as part of a basis for apportioning funds to states, as much as we may not like it.  The census is used to decide on apportioning funding for Medicaid, for instance, and those funds are actually sometimes used to provide healthcare for illegals.  There's no real good way around that.  I do have a problem with using illegal aliens in the census when the census is used to determine reapportionment of congressional representation.  That, to me, is inherently flawed.  There should be a way to exclude them from census numbers such that the population of illegals doesn't in any way effect the apportionment of representatives in Congress.  That's why I agree with asking respondents whether or not they are US citizens when taking a census. I'm opposed to things that incentivizes welcoming of illegal immigrants.....and by including illegals in making determinations of congressional districts, you just add to the incentive to willfully cheat and break our laws.

I just read a news story about a young welder who was immediately laid off after Biden cancelled the Keystone project.  He said he sat in his truck and wept, then had to lay off his whole team.  Good job gone.  Is there another one out there for him?  Questionable.

Is the peanut gallery feeling some pokes and jabs? I intended it that way. And since I've read many of your posts over the years, I know you are 100% intelligent enough to know that. I gave mutiple opportunities for you to back out of the conversation I was attempting to have with someone else by showing I wasn't interested in how they had responded before and why I thought it could possibly be different this time.. Yet you continued to force your dialoge and opinions that added nothing to said conversation.

The only way jd&ez can NOT answer a question is by trashing, calling us all commies and other names,trashing Trump calling his wife a P*** star, saying how Trump graps a womens part (of her body) jd&ez starts a thread about Trump Trashing him and his supporters, hes never ever has answered a question, he jd&ez is always talking filth about Trump and his family and us. He loves bashing all the Trump supporters on here..

They told you exactly what they were going to do.... none of this is a surprise...

Many were not listening... many were to busy hating on Trump -

elections have consequences.... 

Surprise - not surprised!

I think there will still be good jobs out there for the welders. There is a lack of good ones out there, so there will always be jobs. If you are a good enough welder to be on the pipeline, you have skills. It is a shame that those people have to pivot and figure out a new job- and the hardships they wil go through unitl it falls into place - they shouldn't have to do it- but they are the backbone of America working type people that ARE going to work and have skills employers are looking for.  One of my own family members was laid off from the pipeline. Just had a new baby. It really sucks. And I also know, he already has an interview for another job.

I think it's wrong and iodiotic that it happened, as I stated in an earlier post. I am absolutly not defending the pipeline shutting down or minimizing what the workers are going through.

Really sad day when a DEMOCRATIC US Representative is upset about the house passing a bill that sends $3 TRILLION overseas. BUT I do have a solution to help out the girl athletes. You better be tough to run with the girls. 

https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30E0772C-7B6A-11D5-A192-00B0D0204AE5

Oh but according to Buttigieg, after Cruz grilled him about it, said- " They can get a job just a different one." ??

How profound.

Yet he was photographed on federal property with no mask. He said he was celebrating. 

When I go in a store I am going to tell them I am celebrating something so I don't have to wear a mask. 

i am a gentt for over the trucking

had a driver del a switch in neb friday. company said well we will take its paid for but it was made for the pipeline. they were told last week to get off pipeline.  so now what does the company do

the ex ceo of shell said biden needed to recisend and put it back it negatively going to affect america

Boy are you ever miss reading me. Ditto was to agree with your last statment. If you think I would back out of any conversation you are mistaken. Keep i n mind you choose to answer my remark and became his defender hence the vally of remarks have proceded. The ball is in your court we can carry on with this tit for tat it's up to you. Or we agree to disagree and walk away. You claim to know him on a personal bases and claim his not how he is on this board he maybe that way in real life I can not judge on that. I can only judge him on his statments on this board. They have been far from civil and mostly hateful on anything political. He and I will never agree on anything political that is clear I don't have a problem with that. I do have a huge problem with his hateful bigited remarks. All he has to do is be civil. Until he does I and many will call him out on it.  And I would have far more respect for him if he defended himself and not you Sorry I did not get back to you right away had to work. passing the ball to you. Back to work for me.  PS I know he can be because he is on anything but polotics.

I will take the responsibility for misunderstanding the connotation behind your "ditto". That is on me. Apoligies.

I am not anyone's defender. I didn't take anyone's side- I asked a question. I mentioned that I personally knew the individual and thought he might respond differently to my question in an attempt to get you to back off and stop poking the bear.  I will step up and defend ANYONES right to have a CIVIL conversation with me- even if I don't agree with what they say because having those types of conversations are one way to open your mind and start thinking about all sides of a problem. Not just your side. Or maybe it will give you insight on how to destroy the enemy. Either one works.

Sometimes I think some (not all)  people on here (both Democrat and Republican) act like the most immature, non comprehensive and non origional thought producing babies. It's kinda scary to think that people might really carry on conversations like that in person. If so - no wonder the US is in the shape it is. Some of the vile things said on here would get someone's block knocked off in person, and it really pains and disheartens me to think that anyone might actually talk to or treat someone like that in person. Can I be a blunt, smartass at times? Absolutly. Sometimes I take the bait when I should just swim on by. But I generally try to stay respectful and not resort to the base, low hits. I guess some might think it's fun to say things in a "feed the monkey's and watch them poop" kinda way- but I personally don't. I think it's a vicious cycle. Sometimes one that brands you as something you may not really be.  Words do have meanings, connotations and consequences.

I can only control how I respond to someone. I will not attempt to speak for or explain why someone else said something. That's their perogotive. I have a hard enough time thinking for myself.

I have enjoyed the back and forth. And as always, it's not personal attack. Just a dialogue.

Kinda Classy.... I just want to say I believe you sure live up to your name.  Thank you for trying.  I have learned many things on this board over the years, and I hate that topics can't be discussed.  Since people are located all over the country I enjoy reading why they feel they way they do.

I hate to do it but I will attempt to explain why I voted for Biden, he would not have been my first choice and I'm very sad we don't have better choices, but who in their right mind would want the job.  I don't agree with everything he has done but I like it better than what we had for the reasons listed below.

I don't believe we are the laughing stock of the world anymore, with a leader as unpredictable as Kim Jung Un.  I didn't like the fact that he was best buds with Putin & Kim Jung Un instead of allies.

I'm glad he rejoined the WHO I think this is a world problem not just ours.  I believe if we had paid better attention we wouldn't be in this mess.

I'm happy he has put in people who know how government works instead of cronies.  The post office mess comes to mind.  All of my bills are late and I received a check yesterday postmarked 12/9/20.  He really put a good person in charge, who destroyed storting machines.  I guess we were out of storage. 

I couldn't vote for Trump because of him auctioning off drilling rights in Alaska, he said it was going to make all kinds of money and it was auctioned of for very little.  At least an Alaskan company bought it, if they want to destroy it go ahead I won't go there it's too cold.  However I believe if he was in there longer he would have destroyed other National Parks too.

The Keystone pipeline..... I really don't know.  Don't they already have one?  Isn't is used to export Canadian oil we don't want to refine in America?  If so just who does that help?  I see what we did to the Indians and how we treat them.  All you people griping about immigrants better think about how they are treated.  I would be pretty concerned about it going thru a water supply for so many, especially since so many regulatons have be relaxed.  I can pay a little more for gas if it means clean water for many.

I thought the way Alexander Vindman and other diplomats were treated over the perfect phone call was horrible.

I listened to all the Trump rallies and I read all news sites, I never get my news from here or facebook, even read newsmax.  I could never vote for him for the way he did his rallies.  He never mentions what his plan is just trashes people and makes up names.  He was addicted to the campaign trail and his followers and many to him.  I do believe he enjoyed them storming the capitol or he would have sent the national guard in sooner or at least taken the phone calls instead of watching on TV.

I truly enjoy that we have a press secretary who answers questions and does not consider the press the enemy.  I can't believe in the middle of an election and a pandemic, President Trump said his biggest problem was the press.  I guess if you don't want them to know the shady things you do it's a problem.  What about him calling the GA guy insisting he won and wanting 11,000 votes?  Sure sounded like a mob shake down to me.

If Hillary would have files 60 lawsuits...... would you all still say she won?

I could go or I could be like another poster and just delete it because the posse willl mount up and attack.  However you ask and I thought you had good intentions.  I sure hope they Keep it Classy.  Have a great day.

Please reference my highlighted comment in your quote..................

Do you remember in 2008 when Diesel Fuel hit $4.60 per gallon? Would you be willing to pay these kinds of prices (again) for "clean water for many"? I believe these kinds of operating prices are capable of bankrupting many consumers. So again, would You be willing to bankrupt people to provide 'clean water for many'?

Well since most people can't drink gas or oil, I believe I would.  I see many people pay that for fancy bottled water now.

I do believe you keep drilling and fracking and tinkering with Mother Nature you are going to pay one way or another.  JMO

Thank you for responding.

Has anyone even read the Paris deal? It's not bad or good, it's a hoax. Its a bunch of countries that decided to turn in a piece of paper stating what they would be doing in the coming years for the environment but have no obligation to actually achieve any of it. They then took those pieces of paper and stapled them together and said, "here is the Paris Agreement". 

"The Paris Agreement requires all Parties to put forward their best efforts through “nationally determined contributions”",  but these "nationally determined contributions" are only what each country says they are going to try to do and there's no time frame that they have to be done and no one is held accountable to them because the timeline states, "no timeline specified". hahahaha

The entire agreement uses words like, recognize, acknowledge, take note, invites, encourages.... blah blah blah. 

The thing is BS, nothing to be afraid of, nothing but a political tool for both parties!! Obama did it to make it look like he actually gave a sh*t and Trump backed out to save face with republicans and now Biden is back in to make himself look good to the Democrates.  

Thank you for being nice.  I don't believe you can blame the diesel prices from 2008 on the democrats since Bush was in office.

As much as I disliked Bush in office I thought the 3 past presidents together offering support and assistance to Biden was telling and welcomed.

I am not the fan of The Bush Clan now, that I was under the misperception of then.................Strange how time, experience and research can change an individual's perspective. But again, Thank You for responding.

And your continued comments reinforce my perspective.

Again, Thank You.

There's so much I could say in response to some of these posts, but most of it I've already said, sometimes repeatedly over the past year, so I think I'll try to direct some focus on some new ideas coming out of the neo-liberal Marxist left.  Take a good look at the first proposed "HR 1".  Pay attention because this could really effect you in a big way.  They have the audacity of calling this the "For the People Act".

The bill starts off by declaring that, contrary to Article I of the United States Constitution, Congress has an "ultimate supervisory power over federal elections". Under Article 1, states ultimately have the power of determining how they handle elections. Florida, for example, requires a photo ID.  California doesn't....all they care about is Democratic Party domination. If H.R. 1 passes, all 50 states will be like California.... the entire country will have ballot harvesting and mail-in voting. Think about that. The bill establishes that a state government CANNOT require voters to provide "any form of identification" in seeking an absentee ballot.  This is the kind of thing that drove hundreds of thousands of irate disenfranchised citizens to riot in the Capitol.  You see, as far as neo-liberal Democrats are concerned, some rioting is OK, depending on the composition of the rioters and their grievances.  The riots in blue cities like Portland, Seattle, Kenosha, Minneapolis, and NY were far more destructive, and far more deadly, but even the obscenely radically biased mainstream media could not convinced us not to believe our lying eyes.  The riot in DC was because tens of millions were fed up with the same tactics the left is trying to codify into national law, under this "For The People Act".  Under HR 1, people could freely go house to house and apartment to apartment collecting thousands of ballots and then dump them all in a ballot dropbox. No one would have any idea if those ballots had been tampered with at any point along the way or would there be any way to prove it if they had been tampered with. Under H.R. 1, (people) could freely go house to house and apartment to apartment collecting unknown thousands of ballots and then dump them all in a ballot dropbox. It also makes it harder for election observers to file complaints about any of this because complaining is "racist."  The idea that any free country would permit this is obviously absurd, but that's what they are trying to do.  This is suicidal for any country because it will establish essentially one party rule...a "UniParty".  It uniformly legalizes tactics that even Democrats themselves condemned not long ago.  Many countries such as Canada and France do not allow mail-in voting for this reason. Virtually all western civilization has uniform voter ID laws....except the USA.  The hypocrisy of powerful wealthy left wing oligarchs like Jeff Bezos is brazen and disgustingly illustrated by Bezos' opposition to mail in voting for the unionization election in Alabama.  Who among us can't see the hypocrisy? You should know this is not considered hypocrisy by neo-libs. They don't mind if they are caught breaking their own rules, they are not offended by double standards. They want power, this is a power grab and that's all it is.  
There's even a law proposed by a Florida Democrat, Steph Murphy that, in essence says if you happen to believe in forbidden things, you don't get a security clearance. You can't work in government.  Murphy's bill would require federal investigators to ask all applicants whether they had "associated with or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the United States government".  But what about Adam Schiff's conspiracy theories?  Weren't they proven to be false?  We spent over a year and $44 million and Schiff's nonsense was thoroughly "debunked". Under Murphy's law,  Schiff, would potentially be unable to hold his current job - which is in the federal government - due to repeatedly pushing claims about President Trump's alleged collusion with the Kremlin.  We watched and listened to THOSE unproven conspiracy theories for years...and they continue, without consequences. Yes, they the left was knee deep in conspiracy theories that actually hurt our country in measurable ways - but this legislation isn't designed to punish THEM - just the opposite - this legislation is designed to protect them from YOUR criticism.

Trump is a civilian now.  He's out of office.....but they want to remove him from ever exposing the truth about these oily corrupt bastards anyway, just to be safe.   75 million people see what's going on.  

And now California is lifting lockdown restrictions, why now, (We all know why) this should have happened a long time ago. And the Dems bill aims to crackdown on free speech. 

Is this for real? 

Yes.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H74BE0560DD34428E8C903E46DB1C7DDB

I think the left wants to remain fixated on woke-ness, "racial justice", race "equity", gender dysphoria, critical race theory, "white guilt", virtue shaming, pandering in general, and of course "Orange Man Bad".  None of these are at the top of the list of important issues to the vast majority of Americans who fall within the bell curve.  Certainly, most who frequent sites like this aren't even remotely concerned with these contrived concerns of leftists.  There's no need for me to list specific issues that matter most to us.  We all know what they are.  They don't want to delve into detailed discussions of these issues.  Anyone else notice that?  Trump is a civilian now, so they are beginning to realize that "Orange Man Bad" as a rallying cry won't be very useful, going forward.  They'll have to switch to things like demonizing 75 million voters as "white supremacists", Nazi's, "Proud Boys", and sh!t like that.  

Well, guess what?  We have a monopoly on power in the US.  They have to play defense.  For me, there's a target rich environment out there.  

The old "now the shoe is on the other foot" analogy.    

Giving this a bump up since jd&ez is on here, Maybe he will give his friend KindaClassy a answer. Shes asking in a way a friend would ask another friend.

Palopony

Thank you for your response and kind words. I know it is scary to stick your neck out there and state your thoughts in this day and age. I'm heartned with the responses to your post. The group probably won't be sitting around the campfire and singing kumbaya any time soon, but it is nice to read a discussion instead of a fight.

I was struck when I read your reasonings of why you voted the way you did. It's strange how I feel the same way you do about somethings, but ended up still voting for Trump.

I don't believe we are the laughing stock of the world anymore, with a leader as unpredictable as Kim Jung Un.  I didn't like the fact that he was best buds with Putin & Kim Jung Un instead of allies.

While I didn't always like how Trump's actions might come across to the more "refined" part of the world, I agreed with the sentiment that it was time for a different type of "diplomacy". Traditional diplomacy hadn't been working Kim Jung Un - I think that he needed to realize that there might be another leader that was just as crazy as he was, and that he better think twice about all the muscle flexing he was doing. Once the point got across that America wasn't going to be the lapdog it had previously been, I was ok with both of them sticking their chests out and being "buds". That is the kind of self centered personalities they both had. Sometimes you stroke it to get what you want. Hopefully, the uneasy peace and diplomacy can continue.

I'm glad he rejoined the WHO I think this is a world problem not just ours.  I believe if we had paid better attention we wouldn't be in this mess.

I was also bothered by leaving the WHO. I do think that more should have been done to hold China accountable for not admitting what was going on and the severity of the virus. I can understand the frustration with the WHO, but I feel the good benefits of being in it outweighed the bad. And you can put more pressure to change from the inside than the outside. COVID illustrates that diseases don't automatically stop at the border, you might as well work together. We get more research done when you collaborate instead of doing it all yourself. There are also so many things that the WHO works on besides covid, like polio and influenzia.

I'm happy he has put in people who know how government works instead of cronies.  The post office mess comes to mind.  All of my bills are late and I received a check yesterday postmarked 12/9/20.  He really put a good person in charge, who destroyed storting machines.  I guess we were out of storage.  I too was bothered and not impressed with some of his picks. I embraced the idea of let's put a businessman in office and run the government better. But in my mind I thought a businessman was somebody sucessful because he knew how to do his functions well, and when he didn't know how to do something, he hired those that did. Some of Trumps initiaves were shot down on technicalities because they wern't researched and presented properly. Sometimes his own hubris kept him from getting as much done as he could have.

I couldn't vote for Trump because of him auctioning off drilling rights in Alaska, he said it was going to make all kinds of money and it was auctioned of for very little.  At least an Alaskan company bought it, if they want to destroy it go ahead I won't go there it's too cold.  However I believe if he was in there longer he would have destroyed other National Parks too.

The Keystone pipeline..... I really don't know.  Don't they already have one?  Isn't is used to export Canadian oil we don't want to refine in America?  If so just who does that help?  I see what we did to the Indians and how we treat them.  All you people griping about immigrants better think about how they are treated.  I would be pretty concerned about it going thru a water supply for so many, especially since so many regulatons have be relaxed.  I can pay a little more for gas if it means clean water for many. My feelings are mixed on the environmental side. I'm all for a balanced approach to navigating the move away from less fossel fuels to more clean energy. Until they figure out how to make planes fly powered by solar panels and how to generate energy for electric charging stations - fossel fuel use is still a necessity. My biggest gripe about the pipeline is the loss of jobs in an economic recession. Not just the welders, but all the other trickle down effects.

I thought the way Alexander Vindman and other diplomats were treated over the perfect phone call was horrible. Yep. Trump did it. He got caught and he tried to deflect. Not his finest moment.

I listened to all the Trump rallies and I read all news sites, I never get my news from here or facebook, even read newsmax.  I could never vote for him for the way he did his rallies.  He never mentions what his plan is just trashes people and makes up names.  He was addicted to the campaign trail and his followers and many to him.  I do believe he enjoyed them storming the capitol or he would have sent the national guard in sooner or at least taken the phone calls instead of watching on TV. I was bothered by the rallies too. I'm a give me substance, not just campagining kinda girl. I think he got caught up in the hubris side of it. For me, the attack on the capital was just about the final straw. I had become more and more botherd by his assertions that the election had been stolen- yet it seems that no actual proof ever came out. Its amazing how good the conspiracy to steal the election has been (sarcasm) because I still - maybe naively - believe that someway, somehow the truth comes out in these things. And his call to the GA election guy? Telling.   When Trump didn't immedietly respond to the riot - that was also telling about his character. While I do allow that there could have been some other players involved in the riot - I definitly believe that Trump's retoric through the years, his rallies, his actions after the election, and his holding a ralley on the day of the certification all helped set the stage for that to happen. In my opinion he is not blameless for that.

I truly enjoy that we have a press secretary who answers questions and does not consider the press the enemy.  I can't believe in the middle of an election and a pandemic, President Trump said his biggest problem was the press.  I guess if you don't want them to know the shady things you do it's a problem.  What about him calling the GA guy insisting he won and wanting 11,000 votes?  Sure sounded like a mob shake down to me. I think the press is part of the problem. News today is soooo far from being unbiased it should be ashamed of itself.  Everything has a slant and I don't appreciate that you have to go to 10 different sources to finally piece together what actually happened.

If Hillary would have files 60 lawsuits...... would you all still say she won? No. I believe she lost. Just like I can believe that Trump ****ed off enough people that he lost.

I could go or I could be like another poster and just delete it because the posse willl mount up and attack.  However you ask and I thought you had good intentions.  I sure hope they Keep it Classy.  Have a great day.

With all that I have admitted that i didn't like about Trump's 1st presidency- it's probably surprising that I voted for him for a 2nd time. This is why i did.

1. Despite what I thought of his character flaws, I honestly believed he wanted to help build America back up again. The jobs. The economy. The people instead of a the political party. I'm sooooo tired of politics.

2. I wanted fair and legal immigration. People coming into the US through the proper channels. I wanted the to be citizens and pay their share of taxes instead of being a burdon and being suported by the system.  And don't make a system where it was easier to be a immigrant businessman instead of an American businessman? Don't get me started on the Indians with the gas stations and the hotels. The playing field should be equal.  

3. Non-citizens should NOT be counted for voting purposes. Period.  

4. Canceling college debt is BS. They should have thought longer and harder about the education they were getting and it's cost. I had to.

5. I can't handle some of the directions the Democratic party is going.

This is probably going to label me a racist - but I have a problem with BLM and sometimes the black population in general. I honestly don't think I'm a racist, but I am judgemental. I do believe that sestemic racism exists. I do believe there are cases of police brutality. Those things need to be delt with harshly and eradicated. There are a lot of challenges stacked against the black population. That is WRONG. But what is also wrong is the failure of a sizeable percentage of a race to take accountablity for their own actions. Stop when the police tell you to. Maybe don't shoot at the police- or at rival gangs. Stop selling drugs. Stop making excuses and start taking some action to make a change. Stop trying to live the thug life and strive toward living a respectable and productive one. These are also the kind of things I'd say to any white, latino, mexican, romanian, chinese or whatever person that was acting the fool.

I'm still struggling with the gender question issues. I'm trying to have an open mind and be empathetic. I'ts a challenge but I'm trying to see the other side.

6. This is probably the biggest reason of all. While I actually don't have that much of an issue with Biden, I have a lot of issues with the people behind him and those that are front and center in the Democratic party. I probably would have voted for Ted Bundy or Putin before I voted for a Democrat,.

Excellent!

Thank you, this was a good post, about the best post I have seen in a long time..You and Scott really know how to get to the point of things

KindaClassey, I have a question for you, Do you think that Trump hurt the womens movement? Just curious

Might I add that the bottled water you get at the store, was transported there in a diesel truck, along with everything else in the store so a few more cents for gas or diesel is going to be passed along to you. Obviously, you know nothing about pipelines. I was fortunate to go on a tour of the Eastman plastics plant near me. They use natural gas as fast as they can get it to the plant so the use a LOT. Some comes in and down loaded from tank cars a some comes into the plant via pipelines. They have a tiny electric charge on the pipe that tells them if there is any problem. Computers pointed out an area where there was a problem. The sent a pipeline crew out and there was a small amount of corrosion on the pipe where the computer said. The pipeline runs through a lake that is the water supply for several area cities. Pipelines are very closely monitored today. So when you say they will contaminate anyone's water you are very miss informed. By the way, the sewage from one area city is all put back into a local river and the local sanitary landfill is about the coolest place I have been lately. I wish I had come up with that idea I would be rich now!  You might want to read up on today's environmental standards and controls. Very informative. 

The only way thing that comes to mind is the possible implications of a conservative supreme court if Roe V Wade is ever revisited. I'm in favor of a woman still being able to control their reproductive rights.  Is there something you have thought of that I didn't?

Naw, I was just asking for your opinion on the subject.. Theres a BB on here that thinks he really screwed up the womens movement rights and sit all women back.. 

Thank you

I don't think Trump set it back at all, JMO.  I darn sure think Biden will set it back, just ask Tara Reade and any female athlete.

If you are not concerned with fuel prices going up a few cents you are living in a dream world. Every thing that you buy in a store gets there on a truck. That means that everything in the store is going to increase in price. Everything. As far as pipelines are concerned you are very out of the loop. I had the privilege of touring Texas Eastman not long ago. They manufacture plastics and use natural gas as fast as they can get it into the plant. Some arrives in tank cars and is downloaded. Some comes in through pipelines. Obviously, neither method is efficient enough to provide what they need. All of their pipelines have a small electrical charge that monitors the pipeline. They noticed a problem, went to where the computer said it was and found a small amount of corrosion. Pipeline was repaired. Some of their pipelines go through a lake that provides water to several cities nearby. There are no problems because their pipelines are monitor 24 hours a day. Also the sewage from one city is treated and is put into a river. The water has to meet certain standards even a specific pH. I took my environmental class to the waste water treatment plant and even they thought it was pretty cool. That plant treats water for about 100,000 people. I my trip to the sold waste disposal (city dump) was about the coolest thing I have done. I just wish I had figured that one out years ago. I would be rich by now. I may have strange tastes in my idea of entertainment but before you start making accusations about how pipelines pollute, you better have your facts straight. Sadly not everyone gets to go to those cool places and see how things REALLY are rather than listening to a bunch of treehuggers who are clueless. Unfortunately I had to have an aerobic sewage system put in but it does water my pasture with nice clean water that is treated very much like the water from the waste water treatment plant. Obviously you don't have any family members that work in the oil field. To many people it's the "it doesn't affect me attitude" so they can't see how many lives are affected. 

Yep, hes already has started the set back for the lady athletes letting the transgender men compete in the women sports. So freaking sick.

When you allow males to compete against females in any female events, woman are screwed. That is spelled S. C. R. E. W. E. D and yes that had taken away womens' rights. There are a lot of girls who rely on athletic scholarships bin order to go to college. Is this fair? 

Did you perhaps misread the origional question?   She was asking for ways that Trump had possibly set back women's rights. Not what Biden was currently doing. Trump was pretty "vocal" on where he stood with the transgender question.

Again, I hasten to point out, the overwhelming of criticism of Trump is based on a two pronged attack.  On the one hand, baseless assertions that he is "homophobic", "xenophobic", "racist", etc...  On the other hand, his tweets, his abrasive personality (to some), his "meanness", his foul language, and so forth. Biden used a lie that was mercilessly advanced by the neo-liberal MSM about his "racist" statements following the Charlottesville incident in 2017, and supposedly that was a seminal moment that compelled him to ride to the rescue and throw his hat into the ring.  It was an obscene example of taking a comment out of context and using it as a political weapon....and evidently it worked.  Yes, Trump has made some cringeworthy remarks verbally and in tweets.  So has almost every past President.  

The left's attack on Trump wasn't focused at all on his actual accomplishments....because he delivered like no president in our lifetime.  "Promises Made, Promises Kept" is probably the most accurate, honest slogan ever, because that's what he did.  In so doing, he blew up the political cartel in Washington DC and embarrassed the sh!t out of them.  He had to be destroyed.  That's what they've been focused on - destroying Trump. People are smart, and they are still catching on.  He was our hand grenade....and his presidency was much needed.

He's not a homophobe.  Ask Rick Grinnell.  He's not a xenophobe.  Ask citizens of Israel, Bahrain, UAE, Hong Kong, and Morocco. He's not a racist.  Ask Ben Carson, Project 21, and the Blacks who benefit from Opportunity Zones, and criminal justice reform.  Notice how his support amongst Blacks increased by over 50% from 2016. Oh, and this notion of harming the "women's movement" and how women hate him so much, someone please explain how 53% of white women voted for him....that fact is never quoted by his haters.  

All they have is their pathetic theme: "Orange Man Bad". 

Perhaps You (Scott) should read and post on the thread "Why I support......................."

For your diatribe is applicable to my perspective as well.

This^^^ Trying to figure out how Trump had set Women Rights back. BB claims he Trump is the reason Women rights had been set back since he became President. I asked what rights as a women she had lost because of Trump but never was giving a answer. 

People didnt vote for Biden. They voted againstTrump.  How strong does your hatred for one man have to be to make you vote for a man that wants to take away your freedoms? Even if I didnt support Trump, my love for my grandchildren would've never allowed me to vote for Biden/Harris/Pelosi. 

Biden USED to be "the middle."  Now, he is a puppet for the ultra liberal left.  

Politicians saying one thing and doing another is a story as old as, well… politics. Some examples are a bit more egregious than others, however. Take for example the burgeoning raft of executive orders being signed by President Biden during his first week in office. Did you know that there was a time when Status Quo Joe didn’t really sound like a fan of circumventing the normal legislative process and ruling by the pen and the phone? Yes, yes… I know what you’re thinking. It’s really not fair to dig up some dusty old quote from a politician that was given when they were much younger. People’s opinions and attitudes can change over time, right? So let’s see. When did Joe Biden complain about how wrong it was to take such actions? Oh, here it is. It was way back in… last October. (Trending Politics)

But one Democrat did speak out: Joe Biden, the candidate, in October.

“I have this strange notion, we are a democracy … if you can’t get the votes … you can’t [legislate] by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus,” he told George Stephanopoulos.

Are you familiar with Jeff Dunham's puppets.  The one he calls Walter is an absolute dead ringer for Joe Biden.

Every time I see him I think the same thing.

Why would trans men be competing in women-only events if they're men?

Business as usual on BHW. 

Trump supporters fishing the same fishing hole, getting nothing but bumps.  I have come to the conclusion that the same familar fish in the brush pile bumping your line might just be a crappie. I would almost compare him to a carp but he isn't the least hesitate to do a hit and run. Either or waste of time especially using the same familiar techniques. Perhaps though it is just the thrill of the elusive catch that lures some of you. 

OK then.

Why would trans men be competing in women-only events if they're men?

Apparently if a male indentifies as a woman, they can compete in women's sports. .

There has been a debate in schools for a while now about weither a transgender male should be able to compete in girls sports or a trans girl in guys sports. It's actually already been happening in some school systems, and I believe that it has happened on the college level too, but  it now it could become legally supported  in schools with Biden's exective order

I read that twice and still don't get the whole fish thing.    I guess if you don't like political threads you shouldn't throw your line in the water.

Trump certainly put some women in high places. Which I think opened other doors for women. He definitely placed some women as press secretaries that could directly answer any question and pretty well stop anyone in their tracks. I really think Trump put the best person in each position but he certainly recognized how smart and well informed these gals are. And our new Supreme Court Justice was by far the most intelligent perso in that room when they questioned her. She would not have been there without Trump's selection. 

I get these Transgender people all mixed up, A man that grows boobs and calls itself a female, SHOULD NOT be running against the girls. 

I need to be educated.  If a biological man has transgender surgery is he called a "transgender woman"?  I assume so. Here's where I get mixed up:

"Cecil was a man who wanted to be a woman so ?he/she underwent trans gender surgery and now she is a trans woman who changed her name to CeCe."

I have to stop and think which pronoun to use...I'm a little clumsy there.

Just generalize it to "tranny".  You can google a video where Joan Rivers is walking up some steps with reporters behind her pitching politics.  Joan casually refers to Ms. Obama as a man and the press is all shocked.  "Michelle Obama is a tranny and you all know it."  Shortly thereafter Joan became the "late" Joan Rivers. 

well i totaly am against always have been. but 1 way to stop it  is boycott it it don/t go give no money

Glad I'm not the only one that cant get these Transgender people right. LOL I'm just not wired for this mess and my brain refuses to let me learn who is called what when it comes to changing body parts on these people. Since RockyMountainRacer has a few friends that are Trans I'm sure he/she is alot more educated on who is called what. 

Sure dont want to offend anyone by calling them the wrong Transgender, (Righthhh)

Would someone please delete Meep Meep's laughy face button please?

Isn't that how it works for the liberals - if you don't like something, cancel it?

Surely she'll understand. 

Bumping this up for jd&ez to answer his friend.. So lets hear the answer jd&ez.. Shes your friend so she deserves a answer.. 

Seems to me these "trans" people are playing God.  I don't think that it will go over well when the time comes.

Glad the Trans movement wasnt a thing when we were growing up. How many of us were tomboys as kids. LOL. 

I have had the same thought! I hated dolls. And did not like to wear dresses.  However, as an adult, I LOVE being a girl -- all the clothes, shoes, makeup, hair, etc.... but I still hate dolls. 

me

Hes busy Roxie,he is adding rooms on to house the illegals ,hes SO excited!!!!

I had a bride doll and a BB gun.     

When I was growing up, apparently it was a 'thing' that every little girl have a bride doll.  I never played with mine.............

It was almost like you weren't supposed to.  They were just made for show.

My sister had one and she wouldn't let me play with it. 

She probably thought I'd ruin it, after playing with my trucks and cap guns. 

Thank God there was no "gender dysmorphia" in those days!!

My sister had one also.  Hers was cooler than mine.  We both always thought our brother got all the cool toys.

Never heard of these Bride Dolls so had to look them up, I can say NO, I have never had one of thoses. but I did get a Baby First Step one Christmas, she sat on a shelve in my room, didnt have time for a doll at my age, lol..

The only time I played with my dolls was to take their clothes off and use them to dress mom's teacup poodle........ It probably explains a lot....

For me, it wasplaying with my brother's Tonka trucks in the sawdust pile.

I am not for letting transgender males compete in female sports. I am not against trangender people in any way, it doesn't hurt me and if that's what makes them happy so be it! However, transitioning to a female, you will still naturally still be physically dominant. Most men can definitely outrun or are stronger than women. That is the physically dominant gender, so I just don't think it's fair to let them compete in female sports. 

What about have a transgender male as a role model via teaching in a classroom of little children?

And now Biden is getting striped of War Powers, so what does that tell us, LOL it tells us we were all right about this poor pitiful old man. He does not need to be in charge of the USA...