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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Would you look at a colt that was by THIS STUD x THAT MARE on the top side BIGTIME STUD x THAT MARE on the bottom So Half siblings out of the same mare just by different studs? |
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Location: NW. Florida | Are you interested in breeding, or just a barrel horse? If it's just a horse to run, it wouldn't bother me a bit. If you're buying for breeding purposes, is it proven? If it is it proven, again it wouldn't bother me a bit. I mean lets face it breeding is a crapshoot anyway. |
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Location: North Texas | It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT |
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Location: OH | cindyt - 2021-01-28 8:29 AM
Would you look at a colt that was by
THIS STUD x THAT MARE on the top side
BIGTIME STUD x THAT MARE on the bottom
So Half siblings out of the same mare just by different studs?
THIS STUD and BIGTIME STUD are Half Siblings. Wouldn't bug me in the least if I liked the horse. |
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 That's White "Man" to You
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| foundation horse - 2021-01-28 8:11 AM
It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT
You are acually not that far off. The purpose of line breeding is to isolate desirable traits. One of the requirements of line breeding is to Cull and cull hard if those traits dont consolidate or if undesireable traits show up. Line breeding done on purpose can be very effective. Line breeding done by someone unwilling or unable to cull is just inbreeding and it will always end poorly. |
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Semper Fi
Location: North Texas | Whiteboy - 2021-01-28 8:58 AM
foundation horse - 2021-01-28 8:11 AM
It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT
You are acually not that far off. The purpose of line breeding is to isolate desirable traits. One of the requirements of line breeding is to Cull and cull hard if those traits dont consolidate or if undesireable traits show up. Line breeding done on purpose can be very effective. Line breeding done by someone unwilling or unable to cull is just inbreeding and it will always end poorly.
The proof is in the history of breeding. The King Ranch is said to have had colts with parrot mouths due to line. Hence, the culling techniques required to better the breed. |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/play+with+a+pistol This pedigree is similar to what you are talking about. This horse is one of the nicest rope horses I've ever seen. She has it all. Pedigree wouldn't scare me a bit. |
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Location: Wisconsin | One of the best roping/goat tying geldings that we have ever owned was "line" bred. If I liked the horse, I would not hesitate a bit in buying another one. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Carbon Copy - 2021-01-28 7:57 AM
Are you interested in breeding, or just a barrel horse? If it's just a horse to run, it wouldn't bother me a bit. If you're buying for breeding purposes, is it proven? If it is it proven, again it wouldn't bother me a bit. I mean lets face it breeding is a crapshoot anyway.
Lets say interested in running barrels and hoping for a gelding  And lets say THAT MARE has a good history of throwing proven winners And I totally agree on the crap shoot |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | foundation horse - 2021-01-28 8:11 AM
It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT
I totally agree... but would you look at a colt with that cross? being close? |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Mighty Broke - 2021-01-28 8:12 AM
cindyt - 2021-01-28 8:29 AM
Would you look at a colt that was by
THIS STUD x THAT MARE on the top side
BIGTIME STUD x THAT MARE on the bottom
So Half siblings out of the same mare just by different studs?
THIS STUD and BIGTIME STUD are Half Siblings.
Wouldn't bug me in the least if I liked the horse.
LOL I meant that the mare was the same but you are talking another level!  (and honestly me either, some things are worth doubling up on  |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Whiteboy - 2021-01-28 8:58 AM
foundation horse - 2021-01-28 8:11 AM
It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT
You are acually not that far off. The purpose of line breeding is to isolate desirable traits. One of the requirements of line breeding is to Cull and cull hard if those traits dont consolidate or if undesireable traits show up. Line breeding done on purpose can be very effective. Line breeding done by someone unwilling or unable to cull is just inbreeding and it will always end poorly.
Ok... Lets say those stallions are both 5 panel negative and it was done because THAT MARE has thrown winners. so it would double THAT mare, who is confirmationally correct and the stallion too. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK |
Nailed it... and wowza  That's exactly what I was talking about. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | pepsi - 2021-01-28 9:41 AM
One of the best roping/goat tying geldings that we have ever owned was "line" bred. If I liked the horse, I would not hesitate a bit in buying another one.
I have a couple that are double bred on 2 different lines and both super nice, one is a rope horse and one started on the heel side but he WANTS to be a barrel horse That stuff when done right, In my opinion is magic... and If I like the horse and like the lines, TAKE MY MONEY |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| cindyt - 2021-01-28 9:58 AM
Nailed it... and wowza
That's exactly what I was talking about.
The dam of this horse is a full sister to playgun and the sire would be a half brother to playgun. So the quality is there also. |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| cindyt - 2021-01-28 9:55 AM
Whiteboy - 2021-01-28 8:58 AM
foundation horse - 2021-01-28 8:11 AM
It is linebreeding when successful, BUT inbreeding when unseccessful. FACT
You are acually not that far off. The purpose of line breeding is to isolate desirable traits. One of the requirements of line breeding is to Cull and cull hard if those traits dont consolidate or if undesireable traits show up. Line breeding done on purpose can be very effective. Line breeding done by someone unwilling or unable to cull is just inbreeding and it will always end poorly.
Ok... Lets say those stallions are both 5 panel negative and it was done because THAT MARE has thrown winners. so it would double THAT mare, who is confirmationally correct and the stallion too.
Evaluate the individual. As long as its good, it will probably be real good. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Whiteboy - 2021-01-28 10:02 AM
cindyt - 2021-01-28 9:58 AM
Nailed it... and wowza
That's exactly what I was talking about.
The dam of this horse is a full sister to playgun and the sire would be a half brother to playgun. So the quality is there also.
I would love to see this mare... |
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W.B. Do you have a link to photos of this mare? Thanks. |
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