I had to travel into town this afternoon to pick up our generator from Lowes. I had my 9yr old son with me. Went to customer service and a nice older woman was trying to help me... she was having a hard time finding my order. She went to the back herself and said she found it but was looking for someone to bring it up to us... few minutes later a young gal, weighing 95lbs soaking wet comes up with this huge generator box on a large dolly. It was a sight... mind you, several "men" standing in line ... didn't even offer a thing.... she told me to go pull up outside the exit doors and we could use the jack to lift it up into my pickup... so it was me, this little girl,  my 9yr old son and the cashier, she was leaving for the day but decided to come make sure we got this thing loaded. This poor young girl was taking a crash course in using that jack ... no less than 5 "men" walked by and didn't offer to help us... I was just shocked... we got it loaded between the 4 of us but it wasn't pretty. What has the world come to... I asked my son on our way home if he was a grown man what he'd do if he saw 3 women trying to load a huge box.. he said he would help.. he's seen his daddy help so many people in many scenarios... we have burned it into their heads to always lend a hand especially to women and the elderly.... anyone really .... I loathe coming into town anymore ... people are just so rude and pushy and in a hurry... is this it now?? This new world new generation?? Pathetic! 

I can do a lot of things but I still like men to be men and women to be women... guess I'm old fashioned... my hubby still opens my car door for me when we go places and holds open doors going in and out of places... he won't let me lift feed bags if he's home ... its a dying or dead breed ??? My boys will not become these candy butt men I see nowadays... no way no how... 

Thank the women libers.  

Yep, that's what my husband told me tonight when I shared with him how it happened.  It really stinks, but I can see that.. its unfortunate for those of us that don't believe in that way. I just need to stick to my comfort zone places ... belton TSC has the nicest men that work there and never let me load my own shavings or feed... my feed store in Temple that is family owned and they always take good care of us. I guess I'm usually just in my own little world and don't venture out much to see that actually happening, it shocked me. 

here they are, lol..

Me and Andy were just taking about this rudeness pandemic outbreak today. I had a Doctors appt. today to have a follow up up on my knee replacement and trying to get out of the parking lot was a tad hard, use to in the good old days someone would stop the line going threw a intersection to let someone out of a parking lot, not no more, people, like you were saying are in a big hurry and on their phones dont pay no attention any more. I have always stoped a line of cars, trucks when I see someone trying to get out of a parking lot to let them threw..

Back in 2011 when I broke my ankle and was non weight bearing, on crutches.  I would stop at the convience store before work to get my drink (I carried a old purse around my neck and could put my drink in it to carry it) All the local morning coffee drinkers would watch me struggle with the door but darn sure wouldn't get up and help me, and these were older men that should have known better.  

I'm sure glad that my boy's know better then to act like that!

Sadly most people anymore are out for themselves... being kind, polite and just being a decent human being is a lost art... being disrespectful and rude is tolerated. 

These "boys" could trigger a yeast infection pandemic.

Don't give up on all these guys.  There's still a good number of good ole boys out there.  They miss out when they don't help.....that good feeling that stays with you when you lend a hand whether you're male or female.  I fell at Penny's one day while shopping, like a ton of bricks. My shoe just found a rubbery spot on the floor.  No less than five people, mostly guys, were there like a shot to help me up, retrieve the stuff I was carrying, and make sure I was okay.  I could tell while I was feeling like an idiot they were all feeling good about themselves and that's the way it should be.

I think today all you really need to do is ask.    Is it a pain to do so?  Yes.  Should people jump in and help? Yes. 

However, most won't because they've got their butts chewed one too many times by some holier-than-thou  "I can do it myself" idiot who wants to struggle. 

My farrier lives in the city right now. He said you wouldn't have believed how many people were stranded on the ice off the side of the road during our ice storm.. even some out trying to push their own vehicles while plenty of people just drove by slowly.. he said he spent his entire day pushing/pulling out stranded motorists, he helped a couple that had slid off the road along with a police officer because the woman was in the vehicle trying to steer and maneuver while pansy butt skinny Jean wearing guy was too busy taking a video with his camera phone. His words... but didn't use the word "butt" . 

I know there are still good people out there, I'm married to one, but they are few and far between anymore 

I wondered that a few weeks ago when I bought lick tubs for the horses. I struggled to lift 125# tubs into the back of my truck. Its tall, Im short and the tubs are heavy! A "man" and I use that term very loose.... Sat in his truck next to me and watched me struggle. AFTER I had them loaded, he got out of his truck to go inside. He wasn't an older man either. Its sad. And made me so mad. But hey I got it done. Just took some cussing and lots of grunting for me to get them loaded.... 

In many, probably most cases it's not lack of curtisy or chivalry on the case of the man. But why should they put themselves out there when there is a very good chance they will get scolded or insulted by the female species. 

ETA: in the case of rudness in general. 

it's because no one is afraid to get punched in the face any more. 

So let me ask this to the men on here, do you still offer help to a woman with loading heavy objects or do you just go on your way in fear of being scolded.  I know my husband is always the first to help someone, anyone really, if he sees a struggle.. he has yet to be told to bug off... but if he was told to, he would leave them alone but it wouldn't stop him from trying to help the next person.  It speaks volumes of character. 

I hope that they would ask anybody that was struggling with any thing heavy if they could help, man or women.. 

LOL, one time my husband did ask a women if he could help her load a lawn mower into the back of her car since she was struggling with it at Home Depot, (and she was a big smart ass) her answer was Why is it because I'm a women, I can load it my self. I sat in the truck watching her after hubby went into the store, ha ha ha, she never got it into the trunk.. Hubby walked pass her getting back into the truck and we drove away and she was still fighting with that lawn mower. Oh well you ask and get shot down sometimes but you dont stop being a nice guy because of one rude as* bit*ch.. 

I have faith they would!! We got some good ones on here 

Oh no she didn't!!! Wow... OK... then yep.. you is on your own sweetie pie lol! 

I am trying my darndest to install values of hard work and kindness to others in my nephew, while he is still living with us. His mother is one that would be sitting there laughing and videoing your ordeal, but when its time for her to need help she would be expecting someone to help her. He is only seven, but I'm hoping that this will stick with him when he goes home and she doesnt ruin him. LOL. Luckily we live in a state that still values these values, and he will see it not only with us but with others around him as well. 

I understood what 1Dsoon was saying, I have seen it..

... and, here we are with shows like Yellowstone where men are men HUGE in popularity and women swooning over the MEN in this show -- I hope this makes 'males' sit up and take notice.  Women want a MAN!  

So in a world now full of skinny jeans and man buns, be a Rip.

Like a lot of topics that I've commented on here- I see a couple of different sides....que the "I knew she was a closet liberal trying to act conservative" comments.....

1) I think that we are raising generations of people that are from younger and younger parents who are getting futher and futher away from old fashioned values. And I've noticed that men are helping men less and women are helping women less. People are getting ruder and more self absorbed (or self-occupied by cell phones).They no longer even consider or care how their actions are percieved. To me, a man that watches a woman struggle is just as bad as a nasty talking woman that refuses the help offerd from a well intending man.  People have stopped taking the time to process how the offer of help is presented. I'm pretty sure I can tell the difference between a genuine offer to help (by a man or a woman) and one that is offered in a condensending way. I usually try to respond accordingly instead of a "knee jerk" no, because I am a pretty strong and independant woman. But there is definitly no shame in allowing someone to help and feel good about themselves. Or at least refuse by saying something like "No, I've got this, but thanks so much for being nice enough to offer. I appreciate it" Surely anyone wouldn't be offened by that? And they would walk away feeling good they offered and should be still just as willing to offer help to another person in need.

2) Polite men are formed by strongly polite women - wether it's their mother / grandmother / wife / girlfriend / teacher / whoever. I know it sounds sexist - but I think it's true. I truly believe that a woman shapes how a man responds to her. And I don't mean by wearing a vagina shaped hat or in a sexual way. Or maybe I should say that people shape how others respond to them- and not just make it about women and men.  My momma always told me to act like I wanted to be treated. If i wanted to be treated nicely - treat others nicely. If I wanted to be respected - treat people with respect. I really do believe that people are still looking for clues on how to interact with people. It's a whole lot easier to offer help to a person that seems approachable and helpable, than it is to offer help to a sour faced prude. I still think far more people want to be a good and helpful person - IF they are a good person in their core. An arragant, self absorbed person is going to act that way - no matter who they are around.

But back to the origional statement that polite men are formed by polite women. When a woman is self-sufficent but still greatful for help. It makes a man feel good about being a man. I'm not trying to be manipulative - its basic human nature. People feel good about helping someone that is appreciative of being helped, but isn't doing it in a manner that makes the helping person feel like they being taken advantage of. And when a woman treats those around them with polietness and respect - its also usually very apparent that they themselves are probably not going to tolerate being treated any other way. My husband is not always the open the car door, pull out your chair, or hold your coat kind of guy (because his momma didn't teach or expect him to do that -dadburn her!), but at his core- he is a respectful and considerate man. And that is a very good - and sexy - thing. But I won't tolerate anything less. Quite simply - you can "train" a man just like you can train a horse / a child / or a dog. Firmness-Kindess- Defining the boundaries- Rewards - Repetition - and Doing everything in a manner that makes them feel like the right thing was always their idea. Easy peasy- if you have a good minded horse / child / dog / or man to start with. Bloodlines usually matter for a reason.

                                  And yes, I'm sooooo looking forward to the comments I might get about those statements.

3) There could be a legimate reason why people are less likely to ask for or accept help. It is really kinda scary to be a woman out alone. Crazy things happen. There are women getting snatched in public parking lots. How horrible is it to be broke down on the side of the road and have to worry about the character of the man that is stopping to help? Sometimes you feel safer struggling alone than with a "helpful" stranger. Honestly - I'd rather change the tire myself than be worried about who stopped. And I feel soooo bad for feeling that way, because the good guys way, way, way out number the bad, but you have to be careful and take care of yourself. And crazy things happen to men too.

So....that's my 3 cents worth....for what it's worth....

Unfortunately its not "politically correct" to be a man anymore.

My husband always opens the door for me & other women. Part of the time women will look at him " like what the heck are you doing" & others look like they are scared he's going to get them. 

I just don't understand why it has become so hard to be polite... the media? The big companies i.e. Coke... "act less white" fueling the younger idiot generation that eats tide pods, uses gorilla glue in their hair and then gets a go fund me in the amount of 20k... do stupid things and get rewarded nowadays it seems instead of winning stupid prizes.... I swear every time I go to town I get someone riding my bumper, like I'm in their way, they run up my butt and will tailgate me and I can see them frustrated with me in my rear view.. it makes me want to drive slower is all... I'm not a driving miss daisy slow driver either but I'm sure not in as big as a hurry as most are. 

I didn't have to train my husband,  that's his parents job and they did a fine FINE job of raising a hard working, honest, loyal, polite, God fearing gentleman. I'm raising my boys to be the same... being polite and helpful isn't a science,  it should just be common sense and instilled in every single person. My daughter began dating a boy a few months ago... he's a younger version of my husband,  her stepfather... to a T..  its good to see a younger kid with those values.. he's respectful,  always willing to lend a hand, the kid works his butt off for the things he has.. he respects my daughter and protects her. He can hunt, fish, rope,  work cows, bale hay use heavy equipment,  build pretty much anything with his hands and he's just an all around good dude...  I'm glad she chose a good ol boy... his momma raised him right. 

Kindaclassey, I'm right there with you on the changing the tire thing.  it is just to scary out there.  Although I did pull into a jackpot last fall and had a flat on the trailer(it was dark and you can't see the back tire).  I thought no big deal, got the impact wrench out and went to work.  PROBLEM, the tread got through to the inside and wrapped around the drum.  I am forever grateful that a couple of men came up to help because it didn't come out easily.  I wouldn't have ever gotten it out and would have just had to cripple home on 3 wheels.  I made sure that he knew how much I appreciated his help and gave him a nice cold bottle of water. LOL  Had that happened on the side of the road I would have just gone on until I got someplace that I was familier with or on home.

My big husky plumber friend likes nightclubs.  One night he tried to help a woman whose date was smacking her around.  He threw the guy down and she immediately took off her shoe and started beating on my friend.  He said "never again."

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