Some background.  This horse is genetically thinned wall, cracks, etc. a good bit but worse this year because of the weather.  I manage it or did through rubber pull on bell boots, shoe her every 4 weeks, keep her away from her rowdy friends, shortened the shoe --vet recommended-- keep her feet dry as much as possible and start tightening clinches at about 2 weeks into the fresh shoeing.  I have tried diet changes, best supplements out there long term and they offer no support worth fooling with.  

Anybody have a magic wand they can offer? 

I have a horse with the same issues. It's so frustrating. I use the rubber bell boots. I shoe my own horses and I grind down the shoe edges so there are no sharp edges to catch. I have also started using Equi-Pak CS. I put in all in the sole and around the edges of the shoe back by the heals. It was the 1st time I did it 5 weeks ago and shoes are still on (fingers crossed) I can get one more week. 

Thanks! Someone on Facebook just recommended the Vettec Adhere to fill in the cracks tostrengthen her hoof walls so there will be something to nail to.  I will look into the CS to!

I have one that used to pull shoes every week just acting stupid in a small dry lot. Pull on bells help, had to try a few before I found long enough ones to cover to the ground. We now hot shoe her and put a toe clip on & she's doing just fine so far. My farrier makes all of his own shoes 

Thanks!  She is hot shod, shoes handmade with clips drawn, usually at the quarter.  Haven't tried a toe clip though.  The bell boots drag the ground over her heels.  I have tried every brand out there and the ribbed pull on work the best that I know of. I could be missing a brand that might work better.  Her feet are just so shelly right now, worse with the rain.  I don't think she has ever been this bad.

I don't have any better suggestions than the bell boots and changes to shoeing that others have mentioned. We really try to get the front feet to break over quicker so to get them out of the way of the hind, and really grind on the ends of the shoes to not have anything sticking out to grab.

Joy Wargo has a video out about taping feet that helps with shoe pullers during runs. I think it has really saved me grabbed shoes during runs on shetchy ground.  I really recommend googling "joy wargo taping feet" to watch her method.

Yeah, if you have time to tape the feet for turnout or riding, this works well

Thanks.  We have rockered and rolled the toe and it worked to keep the shoes on but it made her sore and she didn't clock very well.  We even gave it an adjustment period.  I have wonder about taping but did't have a clue on how to.  Thanks!  I am off to go look!

Edited to add...great video!  Wow that takes the worry out of running her because that was the next problem I was going to try and solve!

JMHO but I would go longer between shoeing. 4 weeks isn't long enough. Give her some extra time to grow some hoof wall. I do mine every 6 weeks. My farrier is coming tomorrow & it will be 7 weeks since his last shoeing & trims. O.E. has a fantastic hoof supplement called, Hoof Evulution. It's not cheap but worth it. No I don't sell it, I have used it for over a year on one of my horses. I agree with the other posters on bell boots. 

Growing hoof wall length is not an issue.  It is growing a thick medial and lateral hoof wall that she doesn't do.  It is thin and doesn't give much to clinch to.  We have tried all different intervals and 4 weeks has been the best time frame.  I have a friend that sells O.E.  Thanks!

Check into using cross fire shoes on the back.

Is that a specific type of shoe or shoeing her as if she cross fires?  I did a search and didn't find anything.

Question on the CS since you have worked with it.  I was watching a video on it where they were doing a half fill using the CS to create a bumper and protect the branches of the shoe.  I also watched the video for taping the hoof by Joy Wargo and how she creates a bumper using tape.  It looks like they achieve the same thing but the CS would not have to be removed like the taping until my mare is reshod.  I think my mare would benefit using the CS like you do but build a bumper like it shows in the video.  Thoughts?

It is a way to shape the shoe.  I had a horse that was impossible to keep shoes on the front end until we went with the cross fire shoe with a trailer on the outside.  The front of the shoe on one side is angled off instead of the normal shape.  In my horses case we also had the trailers put on the outside to make him slide away from his front feet.  You might need to find a good "older" corrective shoe'r

Is it possible that horse has an undiagnosed lameness issue?

One summer, I could not keep a shoe on Red to save my life. Literally, every single week he was bending or pulling one. And it would vary between front or hind shoes. Later that fall, I discovered he had a catchy stifle on the right hind. Then the next spring, figured out his hocks were fusing too. Got all that feeling better and like magic the shoe pulling stopped.

Now he only does it every so often like the rest of them.

So, something to think about anyway! Farrier and vet told me if something is bothering them, they will "scramble" more when moving around (or be less careful where they put their feet) which will make them much more prone to catching a shoe. Makes sense I guess.

Yes it is possible.  The farrier and I both noticed some resistance in her wanting to extend her right hind.  I had her scheduled for a work up and had to cancel.  She is rescheduled for next week.

Not sure that I want to wish you to find something wrong with your horse but....... maybe it would be a reason for the shoe pulling if vet found something?

Is she shod on all 4 or just front?

Has she been catching all of them or certain ones?

Yes, I think it would work to create that bumper you would be looking for. It is a werid material as it is hard yet squishy. I can't really explain it. I think you would have a lot of flexiblity and room for erros as if its too big of a bumper you could shave it down a bit. Good luck! 

She is shod all 4.  We just recently starting to shoe all 4 again since I was going to start running her again.  She has always pulled the right front for years if she was going to pull one.  She is high low, low on the right.  The last 6 months she has pulled both but still usually the right.  

When we rockered her toe in front the last go round she was so off in her hind end it wasn't funny.  It accented the stiffness of her right hind even more.  I didn't ride her at all until we reset her.  

My problem is in order to do a decent lameness work up I have to get shoes on her and make sure she is foot sound so we can find out if anything else is going on. 

I would have your farrier shorten up her back toes just a hair and square them off. Have to do this to my gelding that would grab the front with his back, once we started the squaring up of his back toes this stoped the losing/pulling of front shoes.

 JMHO again. I would defentally x ray your horses feet by a qualified equine vet. Not saying anything neg about your vet. I can't & won't tell my story of my gelding who took off his right shoe for a long time & when we x rayd his feet, well , I'll leave it at that. It won't hurt to have your horses feet x ray'd. If there's nothing wrong, great. But if there is, you want to know about it. Best to you & your horse. 

Her feet have been x-rayed, my farrier requested it.  

The cross fire shoing would be a little like squaring off the back but instead of squaring off the whole toe you just angle off the side of toe that she is  catching the front shoe with, hope that makes sense

Vet and farrier said no hind end toe modifications until soundness and mechanics have been evaluated.  

The more you drive nails into this horses thin/shelly/cracked walls the weaker they will become, I would pull shoes for now and find a good barefoot trimmer and leave shoes off untill you can find the problem that you are having with her. 

Wow, sounds cool!!! I'm just old school and just had the back toes squared off a bit when I had a problem of front shoes getting pulled by over reaching while running barrels. This what you just described is worth looking into I think. Thanks for that tip.

I'm betting you will need to find an "old" farrier to find one that knows about it.  My horse also had a trailer (outside of end of shoe was turned out instead of in).  This was to make his back foot slide away from his front foot.  He really slide in his turns and would catch his front shoes as well as over reach.  I'm thinking that the "trailers" are from the reining world but not possitive on that.  They used to joke and say that my horse had everything except the kitchen sink on his shoes.  Over time he learned how to handle himself and all of that wasn't needed but it sure was nice having the farriers with the expertise to keep him going

Barefoot is what started this mess.

I have used trailers on sound horses to correct and or enhance performance issues or even to create soundness.  The farrier I am using now schooled under some of the best old school farriers in several states and his new school blended with his old school puts a creative spin on modifying shoes.

I have never squared a toe in my lifetime and never had a farrier suggest it to correct anything including forging.

Wonder if glued shoes or "cloud" boots could be used to get her through the vet exam? It really sounds like she has a soundness issue going on to me. You said when you rockered the fronts - she got sore on the back. This probably highlighted something that was already there. Granted, soundness issues don't have alot to do with the quality of the hoof she grows.

Theres more going on with this horse then bad hooves, I agree theres a soundness issue going on, and since shes pulling front shoes while running and being sore and has a resistance in wanting to extend her right hind she's got a problem. Well good luck you, we have share tips, tricks and suggestions with you but sounds like you need to make a visti to a good lameness vet and discuss this with them since we cant see whats going on. 

We have kept the shoes on for 4 weeks, without her pulling any and bruising her sole.  Caught one Sunday just before she was about to lose it so we are on track for the farrier and vet visit Thursday, fingers crossed.  Thanks for the taping tip.  We are going to incorporate the theory of it when we apply the Equipak CS.

Just wanted to clarify, my farrier did not suggest the squaring up of the back toe it was all my ideal.. 

Yes I have gotten some great tips on this thread and plan on using them.  Equipak, taping, toe clip instead of quarter clips have all been ran by my farrier.  I also went out and got even a larger set of bell boots than I already had.  Contacted my friend about OE.  All this in response to the responses I have gotten.  I have only put the bell boots in play so I have no updates to give yet.

Vets have been on board with this situation since I recognized it wasn't the norm for her to pull shoes this often.  The purpose of the thread was to get a magic wand to keep shoes on her to get her foot sound in order to do a lameness workup as I mention on the first page.   

Forgot I am not running her yet so she is just pulling shoes turned out.

I am opposed to squaring toes based on an incident I had with a horse I bought that way.  Out of desperation I did mention it to my farrier a few months ago and almost gave him a heart attack.

My vet had a cancellation so I was able to get my horse in finally for a lameness work up, shoes were still on too.  So we are dealing with a misaligned SI joint and explains why I felt it under saddle but nothing really visible during turnout and so on. It has nothing to do with the problems I am having keeping shoes on her and explains why she went so bad when we rockered the front feet.

Now to the feet.  Crappy genetics and weather.  The vet did this cool thing where we metered the moisture in the foot, then dried it with a heat gun like we were going to apply a pour in pad, metered it again.  With moisture in the foot the foot was fluffy, showed very few cracks but the minute we dried out the moisture the cracks were very obvious and the clinches loosened.  Kind of like that face cream that puffs up your face and gives you a false sense of removing wrinkles and crinkles on your face...lol  The vet likes the idea of switching from the pads and hoof packing I was using to pour in pads.  My mare can't handle much sole pressure the reason we don't normally use pour ins but the farrier and the vet mapped out a plan to modify her shoe and exact placement of a squished in foam board they believe will work for my mare.  The equipak CS will help control the moisture in her feet as well. 

Thanks all for all the responses.  

Do you mind sharing who your vet is ?   Only asking cause reading about a few things he did reminds me of a vet I have used. 

It's possible but given the location and distance unlikely.   I will shoot you a PM on FB.