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Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?
dogsnhorses
Reg. Jan 2016
Posted 2022-08-26 1:44 PM
Subject: Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?


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Is it standard protocol for race producers to manipulate the final draw positions in races that have qualfing formats so that those who qualify for finals are "given" the draw position which you qualified?  EX.....Those who qualified in 1 st division in long go run first in the draw in finals,  2nd division qualifiers run 2 nd out , 3 d  run 3 out.....

Several producers are doing this now, but not disclosing it in their flyers. If the 2,3,4 D participants are paying the same entry fees, shouldn't they have equal chance to draw up 1 st in ground in final go? 
I understand that some producers are doing this "draw manipulation" without disclosure. If it is such a fair and great thing why would they not promote the protocol in their registration information?

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br3turns2hearts
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2023-02-13 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?


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I have not seen this happen but am curious if others have? 

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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2023-02-14 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?


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I haven't seen this particular form, but no draw is random. I promise. Every draw is manipulated for friends, workers, multiple horse riders, special requests, and fan favorites. 

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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2023-02-14 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?



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When the same people always draw up 1st in the drag I have a hard time believing that the draws are truly random.

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barrelchasinmonki
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2023-02-28 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: Fairness of producers manipulating draws in final go?



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I've been to shows where they do this, I wasn't aware until the finals. I don't care for it, but what do you do? I think everyone should have equal chance to be top of the ground. And yes, no draw is completely random I don't care what anybody says there's some moving that goes on. 

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