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    Location: Dubach, LA | I always cheer for Lisa, but this year I don't really have a favorite. I do feel sorry for Hailey. She's having a rough go. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I love all the Barrel Racers and their mounts, they all get a thumps up from me, But Lisa I just want to see her finished at the top and go home with a Gold Buckle as in the World Champion!!! Ky Hamilton, all I can say is WOW, hes one tough Cowboy!!!! |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | Lisa is always amazing, I love that she's been able to win on multiple horses, that lady deserves a world title. I really hope her and Levee can pull it off one year. I am loving all the hat throws this year. It's fun to see everyone celebrating their great runs/rides. |
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   Location: Texas | I'm glad to see others getting their share of the pot too to spread the wealth and a chance at a gold buckle. What an awesome experience |
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| After doing a little research, some of those top 15 horses are owned by Teton Ridge. I wonder what the motivation is to not own your own horse. ANybody know the specifics?
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | FLITASTIC - 2023-12-14 11:43 AM
After doing a little research, some of those top 15 horses are owned by Teton Ridge. I wonder what the motivation is to not own your own horse. ANybody know the specifics?
Teton Ridge owns Levee, and one of Brittany Pozzi's right? Are there any other ones? I know a few others don't own the horses they are running, I've always wondered how that works. Do the owners pay the rider monthly, pay travel expenses etc.? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | JcNhEmI - 2023-12-14 3:49 PM
FLITASTIC - 2023-12-14 11:43 AM
After doing a little research, some of those top 15 horses are owned by Teton Ridge. I wonder what the motivation is to not own your own horse. ANybody know the specifics?
Teton Ridge owns Levee, and one of Brittany Pozzi's right? Are there any other ones? I know a few others don't own the horses they are running, I've always wondered how that works. Do the owners pay the rider monthly, pay travel expenses etc.?
I knew about Brittany horse/horses, I thought that Teton Ridge bought a few from Brittany but she stills rides them and that Levee was owned by Lisa, I thought she breed and raised her. Nope I went back and read a little about Levee, Teton Ridge does own her.. Wow I was thinking the mare was out of Rosa for some reason, My bad!!! Yep it gets pretty confusing  |
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        Location: Kansas | Kind of disappointing to hear all that. I admire the barrel racers who buy and train their own. This throws a "big business" monkey into the wrench kind of like horse racing or car racing. Lot of money there. Lisa is indeed a wonderful rider. |
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Frodo - 2023-12-15 8:39 AM
Kind of disappointing to hear all that. I admire the barrel racers who buy and train their own. This throws a "big business" monkey into the wrench kind of like horse racing or car racing. Lot of money there. Lisa is indeed a wonderful rider.
I don't think Jessica owns Missy either. It's pretty much the norm for the top pro ladies to ride horses for someone else. Busby Quarter Horses has two there this year, right? And Teton Ridge has two? You have to have very deep pockets to own horses of that caliber. The days of finding a Scamper or Bozo and hitting the road are long gone. |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | CanCan - 2023-12-15 10:12 AM
Frodo - 2023-12-15 8:39 AM
Kind of disappointing to hear all that. I admire the barrel racers who buy and train their own. This throws a "big business" monkey into the wrench kind of like horse racing or car racing. Lot of money there. Lisa is indeed a wonderful rider.
I don't think Jessica owns Missy either. It's pretty much the norm for the top pro ladies to ride horses for someone else. Busby Quarter Horses has two there this year, right? And Teton Ridge has two? You have to have very deep pockets to own horses of that caliber. The days of finding a Scamper or Bozo and hitting the road are long gone.
I think you are correct, Missy isn't owned by Jessica, but I believe she trained her? Wenda doesn't own her horses either, does she? High Point owns Mo, don't they? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Brittany dont own any of the horses that she riding at the NFR, but she was the breeder of Birdie but Teton Ridge owns now. Jordon does own Rollo. Emily does own Liza, Pipewrench,Beau and Chongo. Taycie does not own the horses shes riding. Lisa does not own Levee, Rosa, Teton Ridge owns Levee. Kassie owns Will, does not own Emmitt Wenda does not own Mo and Mac unless shes part of Highpoint Perf Horses jessica does not own Missy Summer is the owner of Alollo Ilyssa does not own either of the horses shes riding Sissy owns Scoop and Ted Stevi owns Truck but not Sandi and Brijett Hailey owns Sister Sue is part owner of Centerfold and Heff Paige owns Bazinga but I dont know about Cotton, dont say whos owns this horse. Congrats Brittany Tronozzi on the Crown/Championship!!!
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   Location: Cocoa, Florida | What was up with Sister this year? She just didn't look like she was firing at all! Hope she's okay! However, I do love seeing new or different people win some rounds as well! |
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| RnRJack - 2023-12-16 9:18 PM
What was up with Sister this year? She just didn't look like she was firing at all! Hope she's okay! However, I do love seeing new or different people win some rounds as well!
Age and miles I would suspect . They don't stay at the top forever . |
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         Location: North Dakota | It is interesting to see who owns their own. It is the norm in most other disciplines that those at the top don't own the horses they ride so not really surprising. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wow great Barrel Race, lots of winners. Congrats to Brittany on the Championship And Congrats to Lisa on the Average.  |
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        Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2023-12-17 9:25 AM
Wow great Barrel Race, lots of winners.
Congrats to Brittany on the Championship
And Congrats to Lisa on the Average. 
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| Busby Quarter Horses owns Benny. SR Industry Titan was just purchased by Britanny and her husband, I think. Babe On The Chase is owned by Teton Ridge. Levee is owned by Teton Ridge but Rosa is owned by Alan Woodbury. Rollo is owned byAlan Woodbury. Jordan Briggs. Actually, most of Wenda Johnson's horses are owned by Highpoint Performance Horses. Jessica Routier's horse is owned by Gary Westergren. Summer Kosel owns hers. Ilyssa Riley's horses are owned by Slash Z Quarter Horses. Sissy Winn does own her horses. Stevi Hillman's horse Truck is owned by Stevi and her husband. Sandi is owned by Isabella Quarter horses. Brijett is owned by Sawmill rSawmill Ranch. Hailey owns her horse. Sue Smith owns her horse along with Kyle Edwards. Paige Jones Owns Bazinga but Cotton is owned by Bob Burt. I think a lot of these ladies who do own their own horses lease some of these others. I do Know one person who leased a horse from a friend of mine and now her granddaughter is cleaning house on that horse. All this information came from BARREL HORSE NEWS DEC 2023. The thing about these ranches having these girls ride their horses is that it helps them make expenses and those that run their own may not have the financial backing. |
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   Location: Where the buffalo roam | FLITASTIC - 2023-12-17 6:39 AM
RnRJack - 2023-12-16 9:18 PM
What was up with Sister this year? She just didn't look like she was firing at all! Hope she's okay! However, I do love seeing new or different people win some rounds as well!
Age and miles I would suspect . They don't stay at the top forever .
Just my opinion (which bascially means worth nothing), but Sister had a limited hauling schedule this year and I don't believe a lot of runs prior to the NFR. Charmanye used to say that if Scamper had exteded time off from competition it took several runs to get the fire back. Sister got better each run back. Not that age and miles doesn't have something to do with it, but then you would have to point to Missy who is about the same age (or maybe older?). She just needed more runs to get her to fire. |
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   Location: Claremore, OK | streakysox - 2023-12-18 1:22 AM
Busby Quarter Horses owns Benny. SR Industry Titan was just purchased by Britanny and her husband, I think. Babe On The Chase is owned by Teton Ridge. Levee is owned by Teton Ridge but Rosa is owned by Alan Woodbury. Rollo is owned byAlan Woodbury. Jordan Briggs. Actually, most of Wenda Johnson's horses are owned by Highpoint Performance Horses. Jessica Routier's horse is owned by Gary Westergren. Summer Kosel owns hers. Ilyssa Riley's horses are owned by Slash Z Quarter Horses. Sissy Winn does own her horses. Stevi Hillman's horse Truck is owned by Stevi and her husband. Sandi is owned by Isabella Quarter horses. Brijett is owned by Sawmill rSawmill Ranch. Hailey owns her horse. Sue Smith owns her horse along with Kyle Edwards. Paige Jones Owns Bazinga but Cotton is owned by Bob Burt. I think a lot of these ladies who do own their own horses lease some of these others. I do Know one person who leased a horse from a friend of mine and now her granddaughter is cleaning house on that horse. All this information came from BARREL HORSE NEWS DEC 2023. The thing about these ranches having these girls ride their horses is that it helps them make expenses and those that run their own may not have the financial backing.
70 Ranch owns SR Industry Titan (Brittany) and Sand in my Socks (Stevi Hillman) Jordon Briggs owns Rollo Levee is a gelding |
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    Location: Dubach, LA | When did Stevi buy Truck? His breeder/owner was a BHW regular back in the day. I thought she still owned him. |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | CanCan - 2023-12-18 4:20 PM
When did Stevi buy Truck? His breeder/owner was a BHW regular back in the day. I thought she still owned him.
I believe she bought him after she won the American. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Liana D - 2023-12-18 4:19 PM
streakysox - 2023-12-18 1:22 AM
Busby Quarter Horses owns Benny. SR Industry Titan was just purchased by Britanny and her husband, I think. Babe On The Chase is owned by Teton Ridge. Levee is owned by Teton Ridge but Rosa is owned by Alan Woodbury. Rollo is owned byAlan Woodbury. Jordan Briggs. Actually, most of Wenda Johnson's horses are owned by Highpoint Performance Horses. Jessica Routier's horse is owned by Gary Westergren. Summer Kosel owns hers. Ilyssa Riley's horses are owned by Slash Z Quarter Horses. Sissy Winn does own her horses. Stevi Hillman's horse Truck is owned by Stevi and her husband. Sandi is owned by Isabella Quarter horses. Brijett is owned by Sawmill rSawmill Ranch. Hailey owns her horse. Sue Smith owns her horse along with Kyle Edwards. Paige Jones Owns Bazinga but Cotton is owned by Bob Burt. I think a lot of these ladies who do own their own horses lease some of these others. I do Know one person who leased a horse from a friend of mine and now her granddaughter is cleaning house on that horse. All this information came from BARREL HORSE NEWS DEC 2023. The thing about these ranches having these girls ride their horses is that it helps them make expenses and those that run their own may not have the financial backing.
70 Ranch owns SR Industry Titan (Brittany) and Sand in my Socks (Stevi Hillman)
Jordon Briggs owns Rollo
Levee is a gelding
I dont know where I got the ideal that Levee was a mare, lol.. |
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   Location: Cocoa, Florida | I guess I just look at horses like Louie who never really lost their fire until they were much much older! Was just wondering if there was something wrong or off with Sister, she's not that old is she? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RnRJack - 2023-12-18 8:08 PM I guess I just look at horses like Louie who never really lost their fire until they were much much older! Was just wondering if there was something wrong or off with Sister, she's not that old is she? Shes a 2011 mare. So not that old at all, just was not her Rodeo this year..
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| RnRJack - 2023-12-18 8:08 PM
I guess I just look at horses like Louie who never really lost their fire until they were much much older! Was just wondering if there was something wrong or off with Sister, she's not that old is she?
Haliey talked about Sister in an episode of The Money Barrel. She was coming off a hock injury which is why she wasn't hauled much before the NFR. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2023-12-15 1:55 PM
Brittany dont own any of the horses that she riding at the NFR, but she was the breeder of Birdie but Teton Ridge owns now. Benny - Busbys, SR Industry Titan - 70 Ranch
Jordon does own Rollo.
Emily does own Liza, Pipewrench,Beau and Chongo.
Taycie does not own the horses shes riding. - Her family owns and raised both of the horses she rode at the finals.
Lisa does not own Levee, Rosa, Teton Ridge owns Levee. Levee- Bred, raised, trained by Tenley Epperson, hauled and futuried by Samantha Flannry - Rosa was for sale owned by Alan Woodbury still I believe.
Kassie owns Will, does not own Emmitt Kassie's fiance owns Emmitt and they both own Jarvis
Wenda does not own Mo and Mac unless shes part of Highpoint Perf Horses Other horses were borrowed
jessica does not own Missy Gary Westergren does and she has ridden and trained for him for years. Basically family
Summer is the owner of Alollo
Ilyssa does not own either of the horses shes riding Wondering if her family is Slash Z Perfomance horses since all are owned by them?
Sissy owns Scoop and Ted
Stevi owns Truck but not Sandi and Brijett she is part owner is Brijett and I thought part owner still in Truck and fully owned. 70 Ranch owns Sandi
Hailey owns Sister
Sue is part owner of Centerfold and Heff Part owner with her partner Kyle Edwards
Paige owns Bazinga but I dont know about Cotton, dont say whos owns this horse.
Congrats Brittany Tronozzi on the Crown/Championship!!!
Southtxponygirl - 2023-12-15 1:55 PM Brittany dont own any of the horses that she riding at the NFR, but she was the breeder of Birdie but Teton Ridge owns now. Benny - Busbys, SR Industry Titan - 70 Ranch Jordon does own Rollo. Emily does own Liza, Pipewrench,Beau and Chongo. Taycie does not own the horses shes riding. - Her family owns and raised both of the horses she rode at the finals. Lisa does not own Levee, Rosa, Teton Ridge owns Levee. Levee- Bred, raised, trained by Tenley Epperson, hauled and futuried by Samantha Flannry - Rosa was for sale owned by Alan Woodbury still I believe. Kassie owns Will, does not own Emmitt Kassie's fiance owns Emmitt and they both own Jarvis Wenda does not own Mo and Mac unless shes part of Highpoint Perf Horses Other horses were borrowed jessica does not own Missy Gary Westergren does and she has ridden and trained for him for years. Basically family Summer is the owner of Alollo Ilyssa does not own either of the horses shes riding Wondering if her family is Slash Z Perfomance horses since all are owned by them? Sissy owns Scoop and Ted Stevi owns Truck but not Sandi and Brijett she is part owner is Brijett and I thought part owner still in Truck and fully owned. 70 Ranch owns Sandi Hailey owns Sister Sue is part owner of Centerfold and Heff Part owner with her partner Kyle Edwards Paige owns Bazinga but I dont know about Cotton, dont say whos owns this horse. Congrats Brittany Tronozzi on the Crown/Championship!!! |
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| I don't think in all this confusion that it was mentioned that Jana Beam Brown trained and futuritied two of the horses in the top 5. Ahe trained Bennie and Taycie Matthew's mare that was injured. One other horse that Jana trained was the back up horse that Hailey Kinsel used a couple of years ago. Three different people broke arena records in Ft Worth on that mare. Shows that anyone can ride behind Jana. She is such a good patient trainer and just won the OKC Futurity Slot race with one of her own horses.
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | streakysox - 2023-12-20 12:28 PM
I don't think in all this confusion that it was mentioned that Jana Beam Brown trained and futuritied two of the horses in the top 5. Ahe trained Bennie and Taycie Matthew's mare that was injured. One other horse that Jana trained was the back up horse that Hailey Kinsel used a couple of years ago. Three different people broke arena records in Ft Worth on that mare. Shows that anyone can ride behind Jana. She is such a good patient trainer and just won the OKC Futurity Slot race with one of her own horses.
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    Location: Dubach, LA | 1DSoon - 2023-12-21 4:49 PM
streakysox - 2023-12-20 12:28 PM
I don't think in all this confusion that it was mentioned that Jana Beam Brown trained and futuritied two of the horses in the top 5. Ahe trained Bennie and Taycie Matthew's mare that was injured. One other horse that Jana trained was the back up horse that Hailey Kinsel used a couple of years ago. Three different people broke arena records in Ft Worth on that mare. Shows that anyone can ride behind Jana. She is such a good patient trainer and just won the OKC Futurity Slot race with one of her own horses.
is that what it shows?
A kid owns and runs the "back-up" horse mentioned above. Around here, we are proud of Jana and don't think she gets the recognition due her for the many horses she's trained performing at top level events with professional and amateur riders. |
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  Location: Where its HOT | She actually had a minor injury prior to that Cinch Playoffs, which is why she didn't run her there, she mentioned in one of her interviews while there. So she had a huge break before the NFR and wasn't quite at the top of her game. It was really nice to see others at the top, not discrediting the team whatsoever. |
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| I am proud to call Jana my friend. She is so talented. She works well with any style of horse and puts in so much time getting them where they need to be to win. Best of all is that other riders can do just as well on the horses as Jana does. |
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