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Location: Washington State | Okay, this is probably a stupid question. But, as I was flying through the air, I wondered, is there a way to decensitize your horse with bees? Short of going out there and repeatedly poking him with a stick pin until he stands there quietly and enjoys it, what can be done? |
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Location: arkansas | 
i have no solution for you, just wondered if you had a soft landing...we've had so much mud lately, i don't think i could find a dry spot to land. |
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Location: BFE, Texas | I think if you try it, you might get more frequent flyer miles! Think I'd see about getting rid of the bees if there is a hive nearby, might check county extension agent or pest control.
Edited by Tx3turns 2004-04-14 9:35 AM
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Location: Washington State | There was no hive. This guy works independantly. He was a lone bee on a mission.
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Location: Wyoming | javascript:smilie('52',' ');javascript:smilie('52','');javascript:smilie('52','');javascript:smilie('52','');Sorry I can't help myself. It was the way you worded it that tickled my funny bone. |
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Location: BFE, Texas | Well, if he works alone, I'd just try to become a bee hit-man and just consider it part of seasoning bugers .... |
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Location: Washington State | Okay, now I thought one of you would have a great solution for me. It truly saddens me that I may be doomed to repeat my acrobatics for yet another group of 200 people. The worst part is, some little girl, about 10 years old came up and told me I didn't even make an 8 second ride. |
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Location: Yakima Valley, WA | Hate em, hate em, hate em!  Last year, they put the bee boxes right by where you pass to get to the gate to ride out back. Can you say swarm? My neighbor went out on a horse, ponying another. Pretty soon, two horses were galloping home, and there she was....walking back, and signaling that she was OK. Maybe if you put a bee box in his pen, he'd get used to it. |
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Location: WA | No solutions. But what a bratty little girl! Hehe. Solution, solution, solution... nothing coming to me. Is he sacked out real well, like can you take a plastic sack and hit him all over with it everywhere and he is ok with it? That is all that I can think of. We were on a trail ride down south of Elbe and we had come to a wide spot in the trail so we stopped for a rest (there was 4 people, 5 horses). My husbands horse starts kicking at his belly and dancing just a hair. The guy in the back noticed that the poor guy was getting eating alive because he had kicked a nest bout one step back. Poor boy, was so good to just stand there. We sure ran when the guy behind him said "BEES!!!!". Bingo, the horse, was fine later on, but is one good horse and one tough horse! Point is, maybe a little spook is ok?! Good luck! We don't have much of a bee problem out here yet, but I know if I got bucked off the landing would be HARD! I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but we need some rain! Our bigger field is just sitting with fertilizer on it, we really need it! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 9:02 AM No solutions. But what a bratty little girl! Hehe. Solution, solution, solution... nothing coming to me. Is he sacked out real well, like can you take a plastic sack and hit him all over with it everywhere and he is ok with it? That is all that I can think of. We were on a trail ride down south of Elbe and we had come to a wide spot in the trail so we stopped for a rest (there was 4 people, 5 horses). My husbands horse starts kicking at his belly and dancing just a hair. The guy in the back noticed that the poor guy was getting eating alive because he had kicked a nest bout one step back. Poor boy, was so good to just stand there. We sure ran when the guy behind him said "BEES!!!!". Bingo, the horse, was fine later on, but is one good horse and one tough horse! Point is, maybe a little spook is ok?! Good luck! We don't have much of a bee problem out here yet, but I know if I got bucked off the landing would be HARD! I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but we need some rain! Our bigger field is just sitting with fertilizer on it, we really need it! |
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Location: WA | *Cowarding down* Sheesh! Ok, here is a compromise. YOU can by my hay this summer when we don't have enough pasture grass. Sounds good to me! Is it raining at your place right now? It was just sprinkling here, just east of McKenna. |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 10:21 AM
*Cowarding down* Sheesh! Ok, here is a compromise. YOU can by my hay this summer when we don't have enough pasture grass. Sounds good to me! Is it raining at your place right now? It was just sprinkling here, just east of McKenna. It's kind of funny. I never could understand why everyone in Washington wanted to retire in Arizona. The rain never, ever bothered me before. But, I think the older I get the more I understand it. I still don't want to go to Arizona, but sure wish we had some more nice riding days. It's not raining here anymore today, it just sprinkled a little this morning. I have always loved the smell of things after a good rain. I forgive you for wanting more of it. |
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Location: WA | I hate the hot weather. Actually, it makes me sick, like nasuaous (sp), throwing up sick. Grew up in Eastern Washington and thought it would be great to move over here. Then we moved here last summer and there were 90 degree days! I was bummed. And then snow this winter. And then Easter was sooo hot. Have I brought the Eastern weather with me?!!?!? If so, I wish it would go back home! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 11:21 AM
I hate the hot weather. Actually, it makes me sick, like nasuaous (sp), throwing up sick. Grew up in Eastern Washington and thought it would be great to move over here. Then we moved here last summer and there were 90 degree days! I was bummed. And then snow this winter. And then Easter was sooo hot. Have I brought the Eastern weather with me?!!?!? If so, I wish it would go back home! Sooooo, your the one! It was really hot last year. I thought I was gonna die! I would love to have an even 65 degrees and slightly overcast, year around. And, enough rain just to keep my fields green! I could ride when ever I wanted, it would be cool enough not to sweat and I wouldn't have to wear a coat. Anybody know where that place is at? Hey, Lisa are you going to Stewarts on the 24th? |
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Location: WA | I was going to go to Stweart's on the 24th! BUT, then my cousin has a schooling show in Graham that day and she is real nervous. I am teaching her gaming events so I told her I would just bring my horse there and run. Are you going to Stewarts? |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 11:38 AM
I was going to go to Stweart's on the 24th! BUT, then my cousin has a schooling show in Graham that day and she is real nervous. I am teaching her gaming events so I told her I would just bring my horse there and run. Are you going to Stewarts? Yes, we will be at Stewarts. Who's your cousin? What's the clinic on? Where's the clinic at? sounds like fun |
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Location: At The End of The Red Dirt Road | The bees are trying to eat up the horses in Oklahoma this week too! One has been standing in the same spot in the pasture all day kicking at them. These are the little sweat bee looking things (you can tell I paid attention in science classes, can't you?) I tried feeding my horses the apple cider vinegar in their feed, but most of them thought I was trying to kill them, plus it does no good to start horses on something, then when anyone else is doing the feeding, they neglect to add the stuff!!!! I am just trying to douse everything with my homemade fly spray regularly! |
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Location: Washington State | What's in your home made fly spray? |
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Location: WA | It's really my husbands cousin, her name is Megan. Her family has had horses for about 3 years, all her dad does is trail ride, but she wants to rodeo! So, I told her I could teach her what I know. It is long and slow as she is just learning how to ride (these last few years) and she has a 12 y.o. TB with a VERy short attention span. In Graham it is just a 4-H schooling show, all events, performance and gaming, but they have an adult section as well. So I can still run and be there to support/help her and her family. It will be her first outing. Have fun at Stewart's! We went to the last playday she had there and had just a blast! Ellen is great! I really wanted to go to this one but figured that would be a little selfish when I could still run AND help someone just learning in the process. |
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Location: Washington State | I know where your going. It's not a clinic. It's one of the club's 4H fundraiser's. We are suppose to be there, since my kid is in 4h, but he has to finish the series. There's no doubt that sooner or later, we are going to meet! |
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Location: At The End of The Red Dirt Road | In say a gallon size jug (old milk jug or such) fill about 1/2 full of vinegar (plain or cider), a cup or two of Pinesol, squirt of dish soap and a little diesel - say 1 cup. Then fill the rest of the jug with water. I kind of adjust the amounts thru the summer - and it keeps pretty well as I am still using some I made last year. If it is not working, use more vinegar and more diesel. And no, the diesel does not seem to do anything to the hair coat, except shine it up a bit. |
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Location: Washington State | Thanks,never heard of such a thing. But, I learn more from you ladies on here than I ever did from my vet. I will try it. Lot's cheaper than the sprays I buy all summer too. If I was a bee, I would stay away from that. Thanks again |
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Location: WA | Did I say it was a clinic? I may have! Anyway, yeah, it is a fundraiser. Someday!! Are you guys doing the Lacey Oaks series? That is where I will be Saturday, just for barrels though. |
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Location: At The End of The Red Dirt Road | I got the basic vinegar, soap, water idea from an old cowboy who was too cheap to bother to buy fly spray. Then one time a commercial spray I was using had a really familiar smell - finally decided it smelled like pinesol, so started adding that, then a horseshoer we used always just used straight diesel so started adding some of that too!! |
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Location: Washington State | No Lacey Oaks for us this year. No Time! Like I said, my kid is in 4H, and some of their shows interfere. We will do the little playdays at MRC and at Stewarts when they aren't on the same weekends as 4H. Good luck to you though. |
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Location: WA | What/where is MRC? |
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Location: Washington State | Meridian Riding Club, it's on South Hill in Puyallup. Club has been in existence since 1947 (I think). Anyway, there is an arena tucked way back amonst a bunch of nice houses and condos. You only run for ribbons. But, it is just a relaxed fun day. Good, exercise for the horses and keeps the kids in practice in between the real shows. |
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Location: WA | Cool! Do they have a website? Anyway, I get to run barrels at Stewart's on the 24th, THEN I am going to go over to Graham. Evidently, to show there you have be a part of the elite - be a leader, volunteer, etc. So after I run I am going to go over and help her, let's hope their show runs slow! So maybe we can meet on the 24th! |
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Location: Toto...Im finally HOME!!! | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 9:14 AM
Cool! Do they have a website? Anyway, I get to run barrels at Stewart's on the 24th, THEN I am going to go over to Graham. Evidently, to show there you have be a part of the elite - be a leader, volunteer, etc. So after I run I am going to go over and help her, let's hope their show runs slow! So maybe we can meet on the 24th! Hey Lisa...hate to disapoint you but we will be running poles on the 24th. And I would like to meet you hairball also! I guess I will be seing you this Saturday Lisa as I am going to hit Lacey Oaks for my birthday to myself! See you there! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-14 9:14 PM
Cool! Do they have a website? Anyway, I get to run barrels at Stewart's on the 24th, THEN I am going to go over to Graham. Evidently, to show there you have be a part of the elite - be a leader, volunteer, etc. So after I run I am going to go over and help her, let's hope their show runs slow! So maybe we can meet on the 24th! You don't have to be a leader or anything like that. It's a fundraiser. As far as I know, anybody can participate over the age of 8.Call this number to double check that if you want. 253-798-7160. It's the 4H office. They can tell you for sure.
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Location: WA | This is just what I was told. I figured that "Adult" meant adult. But the girls mom called the 4-H office and they said it was only for those involved. Guess I will call down! It would make for a lot less running around!! Thanks! |
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Location: WA | Ellen, Ellen, Ellen. Ok, I guess I can get over it!!! You know, I never checked the website again, so that may have something to do with it!!  Well, if I can run at this fundraiser show then I will probably stick there as it will be less stress and driving. And I really want to run her out in a HUGE pen, even if it is just a 4-H sized pattern. Then I could really brag about a 15, huh?! Fun, a birthday run!!! I made Steve go to Stewart's on Valentines Day! :) I almost stopped by your place yesterday, but I didn't. I always feel bad just stopping in unannounced. I am having a saddle pad difficulty, rather I am on a saddle pad search! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 7:36 AM
This is just what I was told. I figured that "Adult" meant adult. But the girls mom called the 4-H office and they said it was only for those involved. Guess I will call down! It would make for a lot less running around!! Thanks! In the past the funraisers were "open shows". Maybe something has changed. If you find out, please let me know too. Thanks |
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Location: Washington State | The 4H pattern is regulation size. No different than any other event.
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Location: WA | No way! Has that changed since I left 4-H?? It used to be a smaller sized pattern where I ran it. The arena could accomodate a larger pattern (as we ran for other rodeos) but for 4-H it was always shrunk down and my big boy had horrible times on it because by the time he got stretched out, he was rating again. Things change quick I guess!!!! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 8:04 AM
No way! Has that changed since I left 4-H?? It used to be a smaller sized pattern where I ran it. The arena could accomodate a larger pattern (as we ran for other rodeos) but for 4-H it was always shrunk down and my big boy had horrible times on it because by the time he got stretched out, he was rating again. Things change quick I guess!!!! It's the same size pattern you do at Stewarts, or Tacoma Unit. |
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Location: Bennett, CO | BevC...looks like your going to learn about Okie horse flies and Bot flies this summer! |
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Location: At The End of The Red Dirt Road | NO S>>>>> !!! In fact, the horse (hubby's good rope horse, of course) that was standing out there po'd all afternoon fighting them ended up cutting his hind leg kicking at them. Sliced about a 3 inch place right above the hoof. I went out to get him because I had a guy coming to work on their teeth and he had blood all over himself! |
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Location: Bennett, CO | Dont complain too much we had a darn near blizzard last week....2 days of snow...Fri and Sunday (GOD we need the moisture) Not to mention I learned about these little microbursts?!?!?!? I think Id rather deal with a tornado, at least you know the weatehr is ripe for them, instead of a beautiful clear day, a "wall of wind" comes through and ripps the ENTIRE ROOF (2x4's and all) off the loafing shed!?!??!?!?!?!? |
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Location: WA | I talked to a friend I used to show with and she said things are completely different on this side of the state than the other (or at least where we competed). It is really weird. But that is ok! Do you know of anything this summer at the Unit? I keep an eye on their website, but haven't seen any barrel racing related stuff going on there. Called the 4-H office but haven't heard back from them. I am guessing though they haven't opened yet. |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 8:51 AM I talked to a friend I used to show with and she said things are completely different on this side of the state than the other (or at least where we competed). It is really weird. But that is ok! Do you know of anything this summer at the Unit? I keep an eye on their website, but haven't seen any barrel racing related stuff going on there. Called the 4-H office but haven't heard back from them. I am guessing though they haven't opened yet. |
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Location: WA | It's my cousin. This is her first year of 4-H and I am not sure of what her club name is. Her leader is Cari Lynn? My cousin's name is Megan Doyle. I am going to try giving them a call again. I am not very patient when it comes to people returning phone calls! -Lisa |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 9:48 AM It's my cousin. This is her first year of 4-H and I am not sure of what her club name is. Her leader is Cari Lynn? My cousin's name is Megan Doyle. I am going to try giving them a call again. I am not very patient when it comes to people returning phone calls! -Lisa |
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Location: WA | Grrr. Anyway, you have a pm ma'am! I didn't think everyone wanted to read about my dealings! |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 10:04 AM
Grrr. Anyway, you have a pm ma'am! I didn't think everyone wanted to read about my dealings! PM'd you back! |
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Location: WA | You know, I can't stop thinking about this! If it is a show TO RAISE MONEY why is it closed to the public?!?!? I know there wouldn't be a load of outsiders there, but a few extra runs or classes here or there wouldn't hurt anyone!!!! And then the youngsters could watch the adults who hopefully ride better because of more experience and learn? Why why why?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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Location: Washington State | Here's why. First of all, I knew they were having trouble with the insurance provider.
I think they come out ahead by not paying the extra insurance that it costs to cover the public.
And, last year they had a woman fall off and taken away in the ambulance. She was not registered for any events. At the end of the show a couple parents had hopped on to run the barrels, just for fun and she got hurt.
I didn't know, until you posted it that they had actually closed it to the general public. Glad I'm not going. |
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Location: WA | The insurance part makes sense. But do they actually make much money on it? I know I am being a pest, but trying to understand. Growing up our club had a summer horse show, 4-H and Open, with no problems. And we made good money off of it. But I know that the open classes had just as many or more people in them, in some cases. Did this person know how to ride? Too bad the waivers you sign don't do much, but then I guess that means you have to sign it to begin with. I am going to help out my cousin still. Like I said it is her first competition and she was nervous last weekend just trying to pick out classes! And there is plenty of other opportunities for me to run. I just know the time and effort that goes into things and like the payoffs to exceed the costs.
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Location: At The End of The Red Dirt Road | gotothewhip... Microbursts!!!! I bet you never heard the story of the rope horse we bought in May the first year we were out there, a month later it is sprinkling and I had my new portable barns there, but JC had not gotten them tied down yet... anyway so the horse doesn't get wet, I put him in the pen with the barns and one of those microbursts comes along and the barn ended up on the horse - deader than a hammer of course!!!! We were just SSSSOOOO lucky he was the only one killed. |
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Location: Washington State | Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 11:43 AM The insurance part makes sense. But do they actually make much money on it? I know I am being a pest, but trying to understand. Growing up our club had a summer horse show, 4-H and Open, with no problems. And we made good money off of it. But I know that the open classes had just as many or more people in them, in some cases. Did this person know how to ride? Too bad the waivers you sign don't do much, but then I guess that means you have to sign it to begin with. I am going to help out my cousin still. Like I said it is her first competition and she was nervous last weekend just trying to pick out classes! And there is plenty of other opportunities for me to run. I just know the time and effort that goes into things and like the payoffs to exceed the costs. |
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Location: WA | Originally written by hairball221 on 2004-04-15 2:19 PM Originally written by Lisantwist on 2004-04-15 11:43 AM The insurance part makes sense. But do they actually make much money on it? I know I am being a pest, but trying to understand. Growing up our club had a summer horse show, 4-H and Open, with no problems. And we made good money off of it. But I know that the open classes had just as many or more people in them, in some cases. Did this person know how to ride? Too bad the waivers you sign don't do much, but then I guess that means you have to sign it to begin with. I am going to help out my cousin still. Like I said it is her first competition and she was nervous last weekend just trying to pick out classes! And there is plenty of other opportunities for me to run. I just know the time and effort that goes into things and like the payoffs to exceed the costs. Yes, they will still make money. They always do. Even in all the events in the past, where the public was allowed to ride, there wasn't very many people (outside of 4H ) that participated. The thing I have found really and truly amazing about it is that there are very, very few parents that ride horses in 4H. You know, I guess when I was in 4-H there were few parents who actually rode. And those who did never did at shows or practices, just at home with the kids. I guess there is more money here too than where I grew up so more girls can get their ponies (Don't want that to sound bad in anyway, just what I have noticed the short time I have been here). So anyway, looking forward to talking tonight! |
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