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What are some exercises that you like to do to smoothen out a turn or make it more
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What do you do for a colt that steps out of the second barrel. He sets him self up perfect going in and stays good and then steps out. Any excercises? |
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Location: Horse Event or Baseball Game | My 9 year old gelding is pushing and rooting on the bit during his straight exercise work. I'm thrilled that he is feeling good and wanting to run but I worry that he might develop a habit of pushing on the bit when I ask him to come back to me in a run. I don't notice this when he is working in a circle unless he is really fresh.
Using a twisted o-ring snaffle for all exercise. Should I be concerned and what do you suggest I change to help the issue?
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | Hey Sharin. Congrats on all your wins and your success in the arena. Any chance you will come back to Ohio and have a clinic?
Could you talk about the bits you like to use and when you know it's time to switch bits? I have a 5YO that I spent all of last year getting good and broke. She knows how to collect and i've started her on the pattern slow and she makes great runs at the indoor I've been boarding at, but when she gets to a show she turns into a ADHD, social butterfly toddler who can not pay attention or focus and seems afraid of the announcer. At home she rides like a pleasure horse and I get teased about how slow she goes and how low she carries her head but at the shows she is so overly excited she looks like an un-broke yahoo with her head in the air. I started her in a twisted o-ring and moved up to a twisted loomis when I started the pattern. I think it's time to move up but then I worry about not fixing what isn't broken. I have a 3 piece cow horse with a curb chain that I've always loved. Do you think this is a good bit to move her into? ANd should I keep taking it slow until she mentally gets it together at the shows (typically I exhibition at a trot a time or two, maybe slow lope if I feel confident and then walk the pattern) or should I make her put her big girl panties on and go in the exhibition and ask her to lope? I've been to 5 shows in the past two months just taking it slow in the exhibtions and I'm ready to put her against the clock and see what she can do (the runs at home are so smooth and powerful I'm just itchin to run her) but I also don't want to push her mentally if she's not ready. |
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Do you think that the market is strong for futurity prospects? Such as a nice 3 or 4 year old that is on track to run?
What milestones do you want your futurity colts to hit at say the end of their two and three year old year?
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Location: Texas | Sharin-Thanks for coming on. My open horse is doing really well but I noticed in some slow mo video footage that he's crossfiring on occassion around the 2nd (left turn) and not holding his right lead to the 3rd when he comes out. His hocks were injected a couple of weeks ago b/c my vet thought he was sore in them. Have you had any experiences with something like this & if so, what do you find was the problem? Thank you! |
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Any tips for a horse that anticipates the 2nd barrel? Doesn't try it in slow work but in an actual run will shut down too early and start the turn too soon and hits it. Its almost like I can't get her to move over after the first and really run all the way to the second. |
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| Hi Sharon!
Do you have any suggestions for a colt with a huge motor that works great at home but tends to lose his rate at a show? We do alot of collection exercises and lots of whoaing at the barrels at home but when we go to a show he loses his rate and will run by a couple of strides...I normally do not exhibition him just go and run and hope my homework pays off... hubby says at the show he throws his head up and ignores me..
I work him in a german martingale or a tiedown and a simplicity bit but run him in a rolled leather tiedown and a goosetree short shank double gag with a dogbone mouthpeice...
He is super smart and i can haul him somewhere to work him and he is a superstar...works like a dream but when its time to run at the show he is all muscle and run... |
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| Gail - 2011-05-05 5:27 PM
Futurity and Rodeo Horse Trainer Sharin Hall will be here to answer your questions May 13 at 1PM CST.
PROFESSIONAL BIOGRAPHY
2004 Speedhorse Derby Champion
2006 American Qt Horse Conress Barrel Racing Sweepstakes Champion
2007 WPRA Derby Champion
2008 XL Gold and Silver Cup Futurity Champion
2009 WPRA Futurity Champion
Sharon has won over 60K this year alone on several horses. She will answer any question you throw at her about training and selecting the futurity horse. Thank you Sharin Hall!
http://www.sharinhall.com/
Hello everyone! Thank you so much for all your time today. I pray I will answer all of your questions to the best of my ability and gain you some knowledge and wisdom. I do not claim to know everything and I learn daily from other professionals and, of course, from my Lord.
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| countrygirl2006 - 2011-05-06 10:53 AM
Hi Sharin. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer our questions.
What are some exercises that you like to do to smoothen out a turn or make it more
"snappy"?
Also, any pointers for first timer at futurities?
Thanks again!
My style of training is kind of known for smooth snappy turns. I gain this by loping circles with body shaped to the inside, relaxed. If they are not relaxed then go back to a trot, walk, so on. They need confidence to complete the turn at the same gate. I give plenty of room behind the barrel more than going into it. Tip for firtst time futurity is be prepaired to run the fastest time! lol Ive seen the 4 and 5yr old futurity colts out run the derby and open horses. Its not as easy as it looks. Alot can happen when you get there. |
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| moeandme2008 - 2011-05-06 11:36 AM
Hi Sharon
What do you do for a colt that steps out of the second barrel. He sets him self up perfect going in and stays good and then steps out. Any excercises?
First I would vet to make sure he or she is not hurting. If he is correctly approaching the barrel, 3 to 4feet, and has plenty of room on the backside and still steps off? then the exercise to help that would be to lope a bigger circle going in and on the very backside go a little deeper and make another circle and when your coming off of that circle finish the barrel? does that make sense? i wish i could draw it out, if not. this will make him listed to your hands, make sure he knows to finish the barrel and relax. |
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Thank you for coming on. How do you correct a horse that is running by the first barrel? I think my gelding was run sore and developed a first barrel problem. How do I get a good first back on this horse? |
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| canchaser97 - 2011-05-11 9:06 AM
My 9 year old gelding is pushing and rooting on the bit during his straight exercise work. I'm thrilled that he is feeling good and wanting to run but I worry that he might develop a habit of pushing on the bit when I ask him to come back to me in a run. I don't notice this when he is working in a circle unless he is really fresh.
Using a twisted o-ring snaffle for all exercise. Should I be concerned and what do you suggest I change to help the issue?
Edited to post my question.
yes, you should be concerned. If he does this when exercising he will also think it is ok to do this any time and or during a run. I avoid all bad habits by simply trying to prevent them. I do know, however, that they can creep up on you and not realize we have established one, especially on an older one. So....to fix this problem I would first work on breaking him at the poll. If he has never been bitted up properly in a round pen then start with a martingale or a traing fork. This will get his face backed off the bit and stop the rooting. It will also supple your horse vertically and laterally and allow for more suppleness in the turns. After you have gained this then go to more bit with out the training fork and continue working on your suppling exercises. |
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Location: Horse Event or Baseball Game | shbarrelhorses - 2011-05-13 1:32 PM
canchaser97 - 2011-05-11 9:06 AM
My 9 year old gelding is pushing and rooting on the bit during his straight exercise work. I'm thrilled that he is feeling good and wanting to run but I worry that he might develop a habit of pushing on the bit when I ask him to come back to me in a run. I don't notice this when he is working in a circle unless he is really fresh.
Using a twisted o-ring snaffle for all exercise. Should I be concerned and what do you suggest I change to help the issue?
Edited to post my question.
yes, you should be concerned. If he does this when exercising he will also think it is ok to do this any time and or during a run. I avoid all bad habits by simply trying to prevent them. I do know, however, that they can creep up on you and not realize we have established one, especially on an older one. So....to fix this problem I would first work on breaking him at the poll. If he has never been bitted up properly in a round pen then start with a martingale or a traing fork. This will get his face backed off the bit and stop the rooting. It will also supple your horse vertically and laterally and allow for more suppleness in the turns. After you have gained this then go to more bit with out the training fork and continue working on your suppling exercises.
Thank you so much for coming on today! He does know how to break at the pole but I think this little habit is just sneaking up on me. I'll go back to basics and see how it goes.
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| barlracr429 - 2011-05-11 10:41 PM
Hey Sharin. Congrats on all your wins and your success in the arena. Any chance you will come back to Ohio and have a clinic?
Could you talk about the bits you like to use and when you know it's time to switch bits? I have a 5YO that I spent all of last year getting good and broke. She knows how to collect and i've started her on the pattern slow and she makes great runs at the indoor I've been boarding at, but when she gets to a show she turns into a ADHD, social butterfly toddler who can not pay attention or focus and seems afraid of the announcer. At home she rides like a pleasure horse and I get teased about how slow she goes and how low she carries her head but at the shows she is so overly excited she looks like an un-broke yahoo with her head in the air. I started her in a twisted o-ring and moved up to a twisted loomis when I started the pattern. I think it's time to move up but then I worry about not fixing what isn't broken. I have a 3 piece cow horse with a curb chain that I've always loved. Do you think this is a good bit to move her into? ANd should I keep taking it slow until she mentally gets it together at the shows (typically I exhibition at a trot a time or two, maybe slow lope if I feel confident and then walk the pattern) or should I make her put her big girl panties on and go in the exhibition and ask her to lope? I've been to 5 shows in the past two months just taking it slow in the exhibtions and I'm ready to put her against the clock and see what she can do (the runs at home are so smooth and powerful I'm just itchin to run her) but I also don't want to push her mentally if she's not ready.
Would love to do a clinic in Ohio AND visit my family! Congrats on taking your time getting your 5yr old broke and started, alot accomplished in a year. Typically when you take a horse away from their normal, at your home, environment you loose 50% of your training. So, seasoning one is just as time consuming as training one. This means that when you haul her you will have start at step 1 until you have the same control as if you were at home. If you dont have her face and she throws her head up either put a tie down on or a martingale training fork. Start at what gate you have control at and work your way up. This probably will require you to haul a nervous horse away from home alot more than 1 that handles the unknown. Ive had to just haul them and let them stand at the trailer and not even ride them. You should go fast in the exhibitions when you have control at all speeds away from home. The more you haul her with out stressing her is how you season one as fast as possible. |
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| BobbieL - 2011-05-11 11:00 PM
Hi Sharon just wanted to say hi and hopefully will see you around soon.
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Hi Bobbie! Hope all is well and yes I hope to see you soon, God bless |
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| Just Smoke and Me - 2011-05-12 12:00 PM
Hello Sharin, Thank you for taking the time to come answer some questions.
Do you think that the market is strong for futurity prospects? Such as a nice 3 or 4 year old that is on track to run?
What milestones do you want your futurity colts to hit at say the end of their two and three year old year?
Yes, the market is strong for a fututy prospect. Its the unknown but potentially raw talent that lures the owner in. You never know what you got til you clock them. So if you make them look their best before they clock they are worth the most. At 2 they just need to be broke. That to me should be loping correct circles, stopping on their rear end and crossing their front end over and rolling off a hock if possible. Then they need a break during winter and bring back in late winter or early spring and start their barrel training. |
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| hammerdown - 2011-05-12 12:25 PM
Sharin-Thanks for coming on. My open horse is doing really well but I noticed in some slow mo video footage that he's crossfiring on occassion around the 2nd (left turn) and not holding his right lead to the 3rd when he comes out. His hocks were injected a couple of weeks ago b/c my vet thought he was sore in them. Have you had any experiences with something like this & if so, what do you find was the problem? Thank you!
You did the right thing by taking him to the vet. I feel injections take 2wks to actually see a different when using HA. If you dont see a difference after that period of time, it may be his stiffles. If vet checked them as well then try some exercises that will work on his hind leads. For example, counter arch him when loping a circle with out letting him changing leads in both directions. Or, when doing slow work at home, when you leave the second barrel and his hip is cleared, pick up your outside rein, put pressure on right rib and move him to the left slightly and hold that position all the way the 3rd barrel. |
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Location: Montana | Thanks Sharin for answering my previous question!
My next question is, I have a young stud that I'll futurity next year in the fall futurities. Do you have any tips or things that you do to help keep a stud focused and just make the over all experience a little less stressful in training, hauling, handling, and seasoning? I'd love to hear of any tips to maybe help my learning curve. Thanks!
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| AllAroundRider - 2011-05-12 12:36 PM
Thanks for coming on!
Any tips for a horse that anticipates the 2nd barrel? Doesn't try it in slow work but in an actual run will shut down too early and start the turn too soon and hits it. Its almost like I can't get her to move over after the first and really run all the way to the second.
This is very hard to get them out of once they learned how. I would start at home by going faster than you normally do. After you turn the first barrel and her hip is cleared, pick up her left shoulder and guide her with 2hands, her body straight but allowing her nose to the inside enough to see her eye, across to the 2nd barrel pocket and go straight past the barrel to a big circle behind the barrel. Some go to the fence, I dont go that far but far enough that she is listening to my hands and not her mind thinking she needs to hurry up and turn. You need to consistantly do this until she is going by it with out slowing down or hesitating. |
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| WellsB - 2011-05-13 9:51 AM
Hi Sharon!
Do you have any suggestions for a colt with a huge motor that works great at home but tends to lose his rate at a show? We do alot of collection exercises and lots of whoaing at the barrels at home but when we go to a show he loses his rate and will run by a couple of strides...I normally do not exhibition him just go and run and hope my homework pays off... hubby says at the show he throws his head up and ignores me..
I work him in a german martingale or a tiedown and a simplicity bit but run him in a rolled leather tiedown and a goosetree short shank double gag with a dogbone mouthpeice...
He is super smart and i can haul him somewhere to work him and he is a superstar...works like a dream but when its time to run at the show he is all muscle and run...
try running him in what you work him in. they learn by repetition. He may be at the stage that when you haul him off to make a run, dont ask him to run, just let him work with no pressure. Do that until he gets solid in the turns. The run will always be there when hes ready. If he runs by then he needs backed off. sounds like you do all the homework at home so he just needs confidence when he goes faster and is away from home. Also, on young ones, after you make that run go home the next week and build on your foundation by doing slow and controlled exercises to get their minds back. |
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| *Chloe* - 2011-05-13 1:24 PM
Thank you for coming on. How do you correct a horse that is running by the first barrel? I think my gelding was run sore and developed a first barrel problem. How do I get a good first back on this horse?
Horses do develope bad habits or problems when they are run sore> and sometimes we dont even know it. So if you made sure hes not sore anymore, I would start back at the alley. I would have 2 hands on the rein, shoulder picked up, nose tipped to the inside to see the eye and gradually and add speed, guiding him every step of the way with very light contact on the reins. I would sit down in saddle, rate or slow him down right about when his nose is to the barrel with out letting him take his face away and kicking his rear out to the left.. Do this consistantly until he rates on his own with out you pulling on his mouth. It will eventually lead you to a smooth start and consistant shape to and around the 1st. If he continues to run by the first then actually stop him at the barrel until he relaxes and then go forward around the barrel. |
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