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| Just wondering if anyone owns/uses laser therapy on their horses and what kind of issues have you seen success treating? Bad experiences are also welcome, I am looking at maybe purchasing my own but wanted to get some feedback... Thanks |
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| We have seen some(still have reservations) results from the Respond system. To early to tell if any long term benifits.
I will say this. I think the little flashlight looking gadgets are waste of time and money.
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| I'm actually looking at purchasing a cold laser system (not one of the little flash light ones) to help with accupressure and massage treatments. Looked at the respond laser as well as the one from Multiradiance... |
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Location: WV | We have the K-Laser awesome results there is pics of a horse we treated on our FB page K.E.Y. Animal Hospital |
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| justgofaster - 2013-11-25 2:32 PM
I'm actually looking at purchasing a cold laser system (not one of the little flash light ones) to help with accupressure and massage treatments. Looked at the respond laser as well as the one from Multiradiance...
I bought mine for the same reason you did. Honestly, I have both a laser and a magnawave now. I LOVE my laser for tendons/bones/liniments. . . Muscles, not so much but that's because I feel my magnawave is better for that.
I feel like the laser is really beneficial if it can be done 2x/3x a day if there is a chronic problem or injury to the bone or tendon. Otherwise, no. I don't feel like it is helpful. Most of the energy is absorbed by the skin and tissue, so for it to truly have an effect that it should be recognized with - it needs to be used multiple times.
The flash light things (infrared, LED lights) are almost 95% absorbed by the skin and do not penetrate like a laser would. Therefore, spend the extra thousand or whatever and get a REAL laser. |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | I have a cold laser. My good friend (who is a vet that graduated from UC Davis and specailizes in chiropractic and acupuncture) told me there isnt a whole lot of difference between the one that I have and the fancy ones. She doesn't use a fancy one at all but it works-I have watched it work MANY times.
I bought mine because there is no acupuncturist out here in Texas and I needed relief in between the 6 month-year wait to beg her to come out from Cali. Well now she is going to be out here full time in a week so it isn't as needed as it was.
IMO lasers can't do anything compared to what a good chiro followed by acupuncture treatment can.
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| sassy&tessa - 2013-11-25 3:42 PM
I have a cold laser. My good friend (who is a vet that graduated from UC Davis and specailizes in chiropractic and acupuncture) told me there isnt a whole lot of difference between the one that I have and the fancy ones. She doesn't use a fancy one at all but it works-I have watched it work MANY times.
I bought mine because there is no acupuncturist out here in Texas and I needed relief in between the 6 month-year wait to beg her to come out from Cali. Well now she is going to be out here full time in a week so it isn't as needed as it was.
IMO lasers can't do anything compared to what a good chiro followed by acupuncture treatment can.
Agreed with the chiropractor and if it is ELECTROacupuncture. Massage needs to be worked in conjunction with chiropractic care. |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | AfleetEquine - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM sassy&tessa - 2013-11-25 3:42 PM I have a cold laser. My good friend (who is a vet that graduated from UC Davis and specailizes in chiropractic and acupuncture) told me there isnt a whole lot of difference between the one that I have and the fancy ones. She doesn't use a fancy one at all but it works-I have watched it work MANY times.
I bought mine because there is no acupuncturist out here in Texas and I needed relief in between the 6 month-year wait to beg her to come out from Cali. Well now she is going to be out here full time in a week so it isn't as needed as it was.
IMO lasers can't do anything compared to what a good chiro followed by acupuncture treatment can. Agreed with the chiropractor and if it is ELECTROacupuncture. Massage needs to be worked in conjunction with chiropractic care.
Very rarely do I see her do electroacupuncture. Usually it is just the needles. She has fixed more than a few of my horses. I have never seen anyone work as brilliantly as she does. She has a gift.
And if you don't think regular acupuncture works, you haven't seen my horses with her. Or the difference in them when she is done.
I have tried massage and I don't like it near as much as I like chiro with acupuncture. I will stick with the person that has worked some magic on my horses. I am so thankful to have her! |
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Location: Wyoming | Love the respond laser. I've used it on myself and it works, I have alot of back shoulder and neck pain... huge difference when I use it. For my horses I've used it for laminitis, joint & muscle pain. |
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| Thanks for the replys everyone, has anyone had success with lasers treating arthritis? |
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| My mother bought one for herself ( respond) she was going to have carpel tunel ( spelling ? ) anyway she didn't have to have it. The main thing with the laser is you have to have a correct diagnosis , if you aren't treating the correct thing of course you won't have results. I have had one for years and won't do without it, had great results on the horses and family , it isn't an overnight cure you have to use it consistently but it does work. |
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| Also forgot to ad you Do Not have to laser 2 or 3 times a day |
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| We use a Respond daily in our barn. In the past, through daily use of the Respond, we successfully dissolved a chip on the tip of the coffin bone. We also use it to treat a horse with navicular. The unit is so handy to have. Not only do we use it on horses, we use it on ourselves. When I tore my ACL & MCL, my physical therapist was amazed that I had access to a class 4 laser. It drastically improved my down time and recovery rate. I would highly recommend a Respond. |
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| Bumping this back up because I'm wanting to buy a laser to use on my broodmare with a 16 month old recovering tendon sheath infection. Obviously, it's no longer infected but she still has damage to the tendon. I would use it mainly to keep her comfortable and would also want something to use on my competition horse(s).
I would like more input on which brands to check into and which ones to avoid.
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| Respond Laser is one of the best. |
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Location: Valley City,ND | Look up spectratherapy.com cold laser wrap...wearable n portable..I've had alot of success with an arthritic pastern that had chronic inflammation & thus lameness..now sound and recently a frostbite problem n got the circulation back taking all the swelling out. Horses love when you wrap the important acupressure meridians...you can see them relax, yawn and lick their lips. Currently I'm experimenting with lung meridians for a mare that has COPD and she hasn't coughed under saddle or hard work since using it. With the wraps you don't have to be dead on target points because you are treating the whole area, easier than trying to use that little pen. |
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| Laser therapy is an effective drug free treatment for swelling, pain relief, wound closure, and most any type of tissue injury. In addition, it enhances performance by improving the circulatory system, pre-charging the muscular skeletal system with oxygen pre event. Post event it helps to stimulate the lymphatic system to get rid of lactic acid waste, swelling and ultimately relieves the pain and stress in the joints from the exertion. For injuries, it kick starts the healing of injuries such as suspensory ligaments and significantly reduces the recovery time. It out performs the traditional protocols such as ice. Spectra Therapy has a wearable laser wrap that is easy to use and administers automatic treatments at prescribed intervals. It takes two to three minutes to apply the wrap and your horse receives continuous treatments. You can use it over and over again and do not need to incur costly vet bills. It is drug free and safe. It not only makes sense from a medical standpoint, but also financial. |
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| Anybody know about how much the Respond laser runs? |
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| luvinrunnin - 2014-01-24 10:05 PM
Anybody know about how much the Respond laser runs?
Generally used between $3,500 - $6,500. . . New $7,000-$10,000+
Depending on if you get certain probes with it or not. |
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| Laser therapy aids the healing process is effective for reducing swelling, improving circulation, and pain relief. It also helps to close wounds quickly to reduce the chance of infection along with improving the absorption of wound care products. I have seen it used for all of the above and also to speed up the healing process for suspensory ligaments. For performance, it is used to improve the circulatory system, pre-charging the muscles with oxygen prior to and event and then post event to get rid of the lactic acid waste, reduce swelling and provide pain relief. Spectra Therapy's Wearable Laser Wrap is what I have seen used over and over again. You just wrap it on the affected area, select the program time and the horse gets automatic treatments for hours. |
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| Check out Spectra Therapy's Wearable Laser Wrap. A kit that will handle many applications starts at $800 to $900. The one for $850 is really the best value, A100 Deluxe kit. You get different size wraps and also two neoprene wraps. You can also use a standing wrap or vet wrap to secure it. With this laser you don't have to stand there and hold it. You wrap it and leave it on and it will go on and off depending on the treatment plan you select. |
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| Spectra Therapy's wearable LASERwrap lowers edema in minutes much better than ice, heals wounds within days, and firms up suspensory ligaments in a week versus the months it used to takes when following traditional protocols. Its new, automatic cycles on/off throughout the day and night as shipped [ programmable] .
The cost is under $900 and can be used for many different applications over and over again. It is small and portable and easy to use.
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| AfleetEquine - 2014-01-25 12:23 AM luvinrunnin - 2014-01-24 10:05 PM Anybody know about how much the Respond laser runs? Generally used between $3,500 - $6,500. . . New $7,000-$10,000+ Depending on if you get certain probes with it or not.
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