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Location: Dubach, LA | Who thinks this is NOT going to be a good thing? Who is behind the money? Why does a Biden supporter, 700,000, so interested in mainstreaming the western lifestyle? Apparently tried to buy NCHA too. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | From FaceBook....... TETON RIDGE ANNOUNCES THE ACQUISITION OF BETTER BARREL RACES AS PART OF ITS GROWING FOCUS ON WESTERN SPORTS Barrel racers across the western sports industry scored a major victory today with the announcement that Better Barrel Races has been acquired by Teton Ridge, the new and rapidly growing Western culture brand founded and led by visionary business leader and Western culture enthusiast Thomas Tull. The acquisition comes on the heels of Teton Ridge’s recent moves to bring The American under the growing brand’s umbrella. Teton Ridge aims to bring Western sports to the national stage and to share the unique experiences and values of the iconic Western culture with audiences across the country and around the world. As an official sanctioning organization for The American, Better Barrel Races provides Teton Ridge and The American with a critical component that will help grow the annual March event, and provide ongoing continuity for the sport. Additionally, Better Barrel Races will benefit from improved capitalization, access to a broader and more deeply experienced financial and business management team, and an unprecedented opportunity for long-term growth. The exceptional team currently managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse. A sampling of the many ways competitors will see the benefits of this include expansion of the Better Barrel Races X-Tra program supporting local events across the country, expansion of the existing Better Barrel Races World Finals with significantly increased prize money, the addition of a handful of large-scale “regional finals” with divisional and futurity competitions and much more on the horizon. “We are very excited about this opportunity, not only for Better Barrel Races, but specifically for our membership and the entire barrel racing community,” commented, Corky Barder, co-founder of Better Barrel Races. “As a part of the Teton Ridge family, we can grow our events and sport like never before, increasing barrel racing’s reach to new audiences and taking it to the next level with additional large-scale races, elevated prize money and so much more.” In recent months, Teton Ridge has actively acquired multiple Western sports properties, as well as invested in high pedigree bloodstock for its planned equine breeding and training facility, located near Weatherford, Texas. Integration of Better Barrel Races into Teton Ridge is expected to be immediate, so that qualifying events for The American will not be impacted- in order to give riders a chance to make the final field at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas on March 6th of 2022. About Teton Ridge: Teton Ridge is a multi-platform brand devoted to the iconic American Western way of life and western equine sports. Teton Ridge was created with the singular focus of elevating Classic Western Sports and America’s Western Culture on the world stage, while broadening audiences around the globe as well as at home. Additionally, Teton Ridge operates a philanthropic foundation which provides invaluable funding for land stewardship; fosters community by preserving the cultural heritage of America’s western culture; and, ensures the future of ranching and riding sports. For more information about Teton Ridge, please visit tetonridge.com or @tetonridge on Instagram @tetonridgeusa on Facebook. About Better Barrel Races: Since its inception in 2003, Better Barrel Races has paid out more than $112 million to competitors at its sanctioned events, with $10.4 million of that within the past year alone. With a membership list that embraces more than 19,000 members and 1,000 independent event producers hosting more than 1,800 races in 2020, they are a leader in the industry. In addition to the monumental number of events held throughout the year, Better Barrel Races hosts the largest and highest paying divisional world finals exclusive to barrel racing. With more than $725,000 in prize money and $75,000 in awards, the event spans four days and three competition arenas to feature more than 2,200 horses and 6,400 competitive runs. The exceptional team managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse. | |
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Location: South Dakota | CanCan - 2021-11-23 2:07 PM
Who thinks this is NOT going to be a good thing? Who is behind the money? Why does a Biden supporter, 700,000, so interested in mainstreaming the western lifestyle? Apparently tried to buy NCHA too.
I agree...do not have a great feeling about this...kind of smell a rat. Supposedly pushing western sports and lifestyle, where there is patriotism and prayers honoring God in opening ceremonies....and yet throws money at Democrats/Biden/Clinton's who are hell bent on destroying our country. Something does not add up!!!! | |
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| My initial reaction was very similar to most of yours. OMG !! Then my senses started to come back to me I hope. First off we may benefit in huge proportion$ from this. They seem to have very deep pockets. I read comments all day that they donated to Biden and Clinton and whoever's campaign funds. Guess what, a LOT of corporations donate to BOTH sides of every election to try to get shown favor no matter who wins. That does not mean they align with the liberals agenda. It is the cost of doing business. With all due respect, I think if you shared "their announcement" and are already bashing them on fb, you need to delete your posts. They can search and read every negative word you write. Who the hell would want to sponsor anything for a bunch of people bashing them before they ever set foot in the door? We can do better than this. Come on people. Keep in mind Destry Fleming, Corky Barder, and ?? started the BBR and they have worked tirelessly for years to build it up to the great association it is. For them to jump through whatever hoops to have the qualifiers for the American Rodeo had to be a huge feat. Hats off to them and THANK YOU!!! They have got to be exhausted and I know Destry's health has not been great the last few years but he keeps pushing through to produce big races and make big things happen for all of us crazy barrel racers. The way I see it this was a golden opportunity for them to cash in on their hard work and get out. I would too. We need to be THANKING them for bringing the BBR this far. I believe a lot more barrel racers are chasing the dream to run at the American Rodeo than are actually chasing the NFR. Thank about it and please delete all the negative until they prove you right or prove you wrong. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all of you.  
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| I copied bits and pieces from an article on the owner from April 2021. Makes sense to me a little bit but I am not sure how anyone that is business savy would have hedge a bet on Joe Biden. Like many other professional money managers, Tull is a big campaign donor. He has given $6 million to politicians over the last 15 years, one-third in the last year. And like many such contributors, he hedges his bets, donating to both parties. In Tull’s case of late, he has balanced donations to Democratic presidential nominees with money to Republicans in Congress So it was on Sept. 16 — two days after the PSERS vote — that he gave $711,000 to a campaign fund backing Joe Biden and $750,000 to a super PAC for U.S. Senate Republicans. | |
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| Imagine the exposure barrel racing receive with the backing of a big time TV producer/actor. I guess it remains to be seen if it will be a good thing or bad thing it sure as hell is going to be interesting. And hello Y"all. | |
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| I have seen several comments on fb today speculating that they are spending all this money to "control us". All they have purchased control of is the American Rodeo and the BBR. If they were to cancel both tomorrow, so what?! Life and barrel racing would go on as it always has. They have zero control over the rest of the sport, just their events. Maybe they plan to incorporate some of the events into their Yellowstone show? Who knows. I think the political climate we are witnessing has everybody on edge and now we trust nobody. | |
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Location: Ky | ridejg - 2021-11-23 7:37 PM
CanCan - 2021-11-23 2:07 PM
Who thinks this is NOT going to be a good thing? Who is behind the money? Why does a Biden supporter, 700,000, so interested in mainstreaming the western lifestyle? Apparently tried to buy NCHA too.
I agree...do not have a great feeling about this...kind of smell a rat. Supposedly pushing western sports and lifestyle, where there is patriotism and prayers honoring God in opening ceremonies....and yet throws money at Democrats/Biden/Clinton's who are hell bent on destroying our country. Something does not add up!!!!
Do you honestly believe that democrats do not/cannot share those values? If that's how you believe then I agree with you that "something does not add up". | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | GOOD GRIEF !!!!!! Yep .... he is a REALLY BAD GUY ...... He founded the Tull Family Foundation, which has supported a number of causes in the youth, health, and education spaces including the National Little League, a donation of $4.2 million worth of personal protective equipment (PPE) during the COVID-19 pandemic, a donation to the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh Foundation towards pediatric research and art therapy programs, and a grant to the University of Pittsburgh towards brain cancer research. He is a member of MIT School of Engineering Dean’s Advisory Council, the board of trustees of Carnegie Mellon University, Yellowstone Forever, and the Baseball Hall of Fame Board of Directors. In 2009 became a part-owner of the team, Pittsburgh Steelers. He has business dealings in NUMEROUS companies ...... He has been a major sponsor of numerous western shows in the past ........WHY do you always have to look for the BAD in everything without giving it a chance???? Edited to add ,....... and YES, he has donated money to DEMOCRATS ....but WAIT ....... he has donated like amounts to REPUBLICANS !!!!!!!!!
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GOOD GRIEF !!!!!!
Yep .... he is a REALLY BAD GUY ...... He founded the Tull Family Foundation, which has supported a number of causes in the youth, health, and education spaces including the National Little League, a donation of $4.2 million worth of personal protective equipment (PPE) during the COVID-19 pandemic, a donation to the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh Foundation towards pediatric research and art therapy programs, and a grant to the University of Pittsburgh towards brain cancer research.
He is a member of MIT School of Engineering Dean’s Advisory Council, the board of trustees of Carnegie Mellon University, Yellowstone Forever, and the Baseball Hall of Fame Board of Directors. In 2009 became a part-owner of the team, Pittsburgh Steelers. He has business dealings in NUMEROUS companies ......
He has been a major sponsor of numerous western shows in the past ........WHY do you always have to look for the BAD in everything without giving it a chance????
Edited to add ,....... and YES, he has donated money to DEMOCRATS ....but WAIT ....... he has donated like amounts to REPUBLICANS !!!!!!!!!
All these things are expected and typical of a person with this kind of money. Pelosi probably has a very generous resume on donations to the worthy causes of the world too. Trump, too. ALL the rich and powerful give huge amounts to charitable causes. But that doesn't make any or all of them good people. I can understand the concern about his underlying motivations. If it's just to make more money then we'll all hopefully benefit from more and better shows. If there is another motivation (too many to even speculate) then maybe there should be concern. | |
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| I think it's just the way the world is now... people don't believe in good intentions anymore. I know I raise an eyebrow a lot more often than I use to and always consider there must be a motive. I've read a bunch of opinions and stories on Facebook today and I'd say more are leaning towards an uneasy feeling about it all instead of seeing it as a positive move for the industry. Looks like it's going to happen regardless so I guess time will tell and we will find out. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst is my motto lately | |
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Location: Dubach, LA | NJJ - 2021-11-23 6:47 PM
From FaceBook.......
TETON RIDGE ANNOUNCES THE ACQUISITION OF BETTER BARREL RACES AS PART OF ITS GROWING FOCUS ON WESTERN SPORTS
Barrel racers across the western sports industry scored a major victory today with the announcement that Better Barrel Races has been acquired by Teton Ridge, the new and rapidly growing Western culture brand founded and led by visionary business leader and Western culture enthusiast Thomas Tull.
The acquisition comes on the heels of Teton Ridge’s recent moves to bring The American under the growing brand’s umbrella. Teton Ridge aims to bring Western sports to the national stage and to share the unique experiences and values of the iconic Western culture with audiences across the country and around the world.
As an official sanctioning organization for The American, Better Barrel Races provides Teton Ridge and The American with a critical component that will help grow the annual March event, and provide ongoing continuity for the sport. Additionally, Better Barrel Races will benefit from improved capitalization, access to a broader and more deeply experienced financial and business management team, and an unprecedented opportunity for long-term growth.
The exceptional team currently managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse.
A sampling of the many ways competitors will see the benefits of this include expansion of the Better Barrel Races X-Tra program supporting local events across the country, expansion of the existing Better Barrel Races World Finals with significantly increased prize money, the addition of a handful of large-scale “regional finals” with divisional and futurity competitions and much more on the horizon.
“We are very excited about this opportunity, not only for Better Barrel Races, but specifically for our membership and the entire barrel racing community,” commented, Corky Barder, co-founder of Better Barrel Races. “As a part of the Teton Ridge family, we can grow our events and sport like never before, increasing barrel racing’s reach to new audiences and taking it to the next level with additional large-scale races, elevated prize money and so much more.”
In recent months, Teton Ridge has actively acquired multiple Western sports properties, as well as invested in high pedigree bloodstock for its planned equine breeding and training facility, located near Weatherford, Texas.
Integration of Better Barrel Races into Teton Ridge is expected to be immediate, so that qualifying events for
The American will not be impacted- in order to give riders a chance to make the final field at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas on March 6th of 2022.
About Teton Ridge:
Teton Ridge is a multi-platform brand devoted to the iconic American Western way of life and western equine sports. Teton Ridge was created with the singular focus of elevating Classic Western Sports and America’s Western Culture on the world stage, while broadening audiences around the globe as well as at home. Additionally, Teton Ridge operates a philanthropic foundation which provides invaluable funding for land stewardship; fosters community by preserving the cultural heritage of America’s western culture; and, ensures the future of ranching and riding sports. For more information about Teton Ridge, please visit tetonridge.com or @tetonridge on Instagram @tetonridgeusa on Facebook.
About Better Barrel Races:
Since its inception in 2003, Better Barrel Races has paid out more than $112 million to competitors at its sanctioned events, with $10.4 million of that within the past year alone. With a membership list that embraces more than 19,000 members and 1,000 independent event producers hosting more than 1,800 races in 2020, they are a leader in the industry. In addition to the monumental number of events held throughout the year, Better Barrel Races hosts the largest and highest paying divisional world finals exclusive to barrel racing. With more than $725,000 in prize money and $75,000 in awards, the event spans four days and three competition arenas to feature more than 2,200 horses and 6,400 competitive runs. The exceptional team managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse.
You actually believe what's on his PR page? You're always good for a giggle when you go political. ?? | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CanCan - 2021-11-26 6:32 PM NJJ - 2021-11-23 6:47 PM From FaceBook....... TETON RIDGE ANNOUNCES THE ACQUISITION OF BETTER BARREL RACES AS PART OF ITS GROWING FOCUS ON WESTERN SPORTS Barrel racers across the western sports industry scored a major victory today with the announcement that Better Barrel Races has been acquired by Teton Ridge, the new and rapidly growing Western culture brand founded and led by visionary business leader and Western culture enthusiast Thomas Tull. The acquisition comes on the heels of Teton Ridge’s recent moves to bring The American under the growing brand’s umbrella. Teton Ridge aims to bring Western sports to the national stage and to share the unique experiences and values of the iconic Western culture with audiences across the country and around the world. As an official sanctioning organization for The American, Better Barrel Races provides Teton Ridge and The American with a critical component that will help grow the annual March event, and provide ongoing continuity for the sport. Additionally, Better Barrel Races will benefit from improved capitalization, access to a broader and more deeply experienced financial and business management team, and an unprecedented opportunity for long-term growth. The exceptional team currently managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse. A sampling of the many ways competitors will see the benefits of this include expansion of the Better Barrel Races X-Tra program supporting local events across the country, expansion of the existing Better Barrel Races World Finals with significantly increased prize money, the addition of a handful of large-scale “regional finals” with divisional and futurity competitions and much more on the horizon. “We are very excited about this opportunity, not only for Better Barrel Races, but specifically for our membership and the entire barrel racing community,” commented, Corky Barder, co-founder of Better Barrel Races. “As a part of the Teton Ridge family, we can grow our events and sport like never before, increasing barrel racing’s reach to new audiences and taking it to the next level with additional large-scale races, elevated prize money and so much more.” In recent months, Teton Ridge has actively acquired multiple Western sports properties, as well as invested in high pedigree bloodstock for its planned equine breeding and training facility, located near Weatherford, Texas. Integration of Better Barrel Races into Teton Ridge is expected to be immediate, so that qualifying events for The American will not be impacted- in order to give riders a chance to make the final field at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas on March 6th of 2022. About Teton Ridge: Teton Ridge is a multi-platform brand devoted to the iconic American Western way of life and western equine sports. Teton Ridge was created with the singular focus of elevating Classic Western Sports and America’s Western Culture on the world stage, while broadening audiences around the globe as well as at home. Additionally, Teton Ridge operates a philanthropic foundation which provides invaluable funding for land stewardship; fosters community by preserving the cultural heritage of America’s western culture; and, ensures the future of ranching and riding sports. For more information about Teton Ridge, please visit tetonridge.com or @tetonridge on Instagram @tetonridgeusa on Facebook. About Better Barrel Races: Since its inception in 2003, Better Barrel Races has paid out more than $112 million to competitors at its sanctioned events, with $10.4 million of that within the past year alone. With a membership list that embraces more than 19,000 members and 1,000 independent event producers hosting more than 1,800 races in 2020, they are a leader in the industry. In addition to the monumental number of events held throughout the year, Better Barrel Races hosts the largest and highest paying divisional world finals exclusive to barrel racing. With more than $725,000 in prize money and $75,000 in awards, the event spans four days and three competition arenas to feature more than 2,200 horses and 6,400 competitive runs. The exceptional team managing Better Barrel Races, that to date boasts more than 150 years combined experience in the barrel racing world, will continue to work alongside the team at Teton Ridge to advise, consult and assist with the historic partnership in order to become an unrivaled powerhouse. You actually believe what's on his PR page? You're always good for a giggle when you go political. ?? For your information ...... THAT information was provided by the BETTER BARREL RACES page ...... so STICK IT where the sun don't shine !!!!!!
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| I'm skeptical. Tull sold his Legendary movie company to the second richest man in China for $3.5 billion. The Chinese have been buying up film companies left and right. Reason being is that if they control the movies, they can paint a better picture of themselves for the rest of the world to see. That was a quote from Forbes about the sale of Legendary for those of you that want to try and disprove me. When the 6666 sold, Taylor Sheridan was the front man for an undisclosed buyer. Doesn't take a genius to figure out it's probably the Chinese. A lot of Chinese are obsessed with the Western lifestyle. Teton Ridge are also corporate sponsors of the PRCA, PBR, AQHA, NCHA, NRCHA. The reining team they put in place is the elite of elite. The Run For A Million that Sheridan put together for the NRCHA has him competing in the non pro and Teton Ridge has horses in it. They are also buying up stallions and well known mares. If you think the sale of the BBR to them is going to benefit 5D Betty Barrel Racer, you're probably in for a rude awakening.
My concern is that if this Western Lifestyle house of cards they're building comes toppling down, the impact on so many will be huge. You should ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth. You might decide to take that sucker home, but you'd better be fully aware of the maintenance required to keep it going down the road. | |
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| SKM - 2021-11-29 6:24 AM
I'm skeptical. Tull sold his Legendary movie company to the second richest man in China for $3.5 billion. The Chinese have been buying up film companies left and right. Reason being is that if they control the movies, they can paint a better picture of themselves for the rest of the world to see. That was a quote from Forbes about the sale of Legendary for those of you that want to try and disprove me.
When the 6666 sold, Taylor Sheridan was the front man for an undisclosed buyer. Doesn't take a genius to figure out it's probably the Chinese. A lot of Chinese are obsessed with the Western lifestyle.
Teton Ridge are also corporate sponsors of the PRCA, PBR, AQHA, NCHA, NRCHA. The reining team they put in place is the elite of elite. The Run For A Million that Sheridan put together for the NRCHA has him competing in the non pro and Teton Ridge has horses in it. They are also buying up stallions and well known mares. If you think the sale of the BBR to them is going to benefit 5D Betty Barrel Racer, you're probably in for a rude awakening.
My concern is that if this Western Lifestyle house of cards they're building comes toppling down, the impact on so many will be huge. You should ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth. You might decide to take that sucker home, but you'd better be fully aware of the maintenance required to keep it going down the road.
I have to agree with you here. I too, am skeptical. However I'm not high enough up on the food chain for it to really impact me, I think. Hardly consider myself a weekend warrior. But I still don't have warm and fuzzy feelings about all this for the "Western horse" industry as a whole. Just going to sit back and watch and hope all the skeptics don't get to say "I told you so". | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | SKM - 2021-11-28 7:24 AM
I'm skeptical. Tull sold his Legendary movie company to the second richest man in China for $3.5 billion. The Chinese have been buying up film companies left and right. Reason being is that if they control the movies, they can paint a better picture of themselves for the rest of the world to see. That was a quote from Forbes about the sale of Legendary for those of you that want to try and disprove me.
When the 6666 sold, Taylor Sheridan was the front man for an undisclosed buyer. Doesn't take a genius to figure out it's probably the Chinese. A lot of Chinese are obsessed with the Western lifestyle.
Teton Ridge are also corporate sponsors of the PRCA, PBR, AQHA, NCHA, NRCHA. The reining team they put in place is the elite of elite. The Run For A Million that Sheridan put together for the NRCHA has him competing in the non pro and Teton Ridge has horses in it. They are also buying up stallions and well known mares. If you think the sale of the BBR to them is going to benefit 5D Betty Barrel Racer, you're probably in for a rude awakening.
My concern is that if this Western Lifestyle house of cards they're building comes toppling down, the impact on so many will be huge. You should ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth. You might decide to take that sucker home, but you'd better be fully aware of the maintenance required to keep it going down the road.
Amazing how China seems to like our way of life.....But truth be know China is no way like us......we like freedom.....something they don't.... And I agree....Everything that glitters is not gold.......Guess we shall see... | |
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| If anybody read the latest release of the Barrel Racing Report this morning - it states in the interviews that Teton Ridge is the owner of Babe on the Chase (Birdie) prev owned by Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi. They are also thanked by 3 VERY well known barrel racers for sponsorships. Including but not limited to Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi, Lisa Lockhart, and Hailey Kinsel. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | ADCsorrel - 2021-11-30 1:36 PM
If anybody read the latest release of the Barrel Racing Report this morning - it states in the interviews that Teton Ridge is the owner of Babe on the Chase (Birdie) prev owned by Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi. They are also thanked by 3 VERY well known barrel racers for sponsorships. Including but not limited to Brittany Pozzi Tonozzi, Lisa Lockhart, and Hailey Kinsel.
I thought I read they brought a horse for Lisa...Promise Me Fame Guys...which good for her but .......guess they are matching good ones with the top jockeys. | |
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| I've read Lisa's and Haileys "announcement" of teaming up with this Teton Ridge deal on Facebook today. Im just going to say it... I don't like it. I cannot imagine the amount of money that's being thrown on the table for this and I'll admit I don't quite understand it or why they are building a team? Then I read they are looking into roughstock and gathering some more talent. Why? What's the goal and how is this going to benefit Teton or the team? What happens next? | |
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| WHO IS BUYING OUR WESTERN HERITAGE? Why must we shoot ourselves?
Article by Trent Loos - Protect The Harvest Advisory Committee Member “Come on Pilgrim, you see what's going on here don’t ya?”
Yes, I, as much as anybody, would love to see the John Wayne era return, but if you haven’t been paying attention to the Yellowstone Fever, I think we are in trouble. Shoot at me all you want, I have not seen a single episode. It is the kind of thing I would latch onto in a heartbeat and then to make it worse they brought Buster Welch in on the first episode this season. I mean that is real stuff. So as you worry that I will rain on your parade, I feel compelled to share some facts with you about what is really going on with this fever that is sweeping the country. Chinese Entities Are Buying US Farms and Ranches First off, I still get calls regularly from every corner of the nation with the latest story of how their neighboring farm or ranch that just sold to the Chinese. From Georgia to Oklahoma to Vegas and the West Coast, the Chinese are buying our resources, I don’t think anybody even disputes that. Now it can be argued that new money into the U.S. economy is a healthy thing but I happen to think this is different. So Taylor Sheridan, who did grow up on a Texas ranch, had an idea for a screenplay that he pitched to a couple different entities in Hollywood and most sent him packing. I am pretty sure that they all told him there was no room for hicks on the red carpet. However, that is not what Paramount told him; Paramount jumped all over it. They reportedly offered Costner $500,000 per episode just to get everyone's attention and that part worked very well. Interestingly enough, major media attention was given to two different Chinese firms “infusing” $1 billion into Paramount just one year before Yellowstone was launched. For the record, those two Chinese entities are Huahua and Shanghai Film Corp. Thomas Tull Now let's switch gears for a moment. In 2015, a New York businessman, film maker and investor named Thomas Tull brokered a deal with Chinese billionaire Wang Jianlin's Wanda Group to sell Legendary Entertainment for $3.5 billion in cash, stock and debt. What is so interesting about this little Chinese outfit is that they just happen to own AMC theaters which include 8200 screens in 661 theaters in the US alone. Folks, China controls Hollywood. Teton Ridge Suddenly in 2021, the name “Teton Ridge” is popping up everywhere. Teton Ridge is owned by none other than Thomas Tull. They are reportedly telling everyone that they “fell in love with the history and heritage of the Western culture”. Let’s take a quick look at their recent partnerships and acquisitions. The American Rodeo, Cowboys and Indians magazine, Better Barrel Races, AQHA, PRCA naming rights at 2021 NFR and Run for a Million. Now the Chinese own not only Hollywood but the western culture of our nation. That must have been some great partnership right there with a feller by the name of Taylor Sheridan who is the founder of Run for a Million. It also turns out that the most famous horse ranch in the world, 6666 Ranch, sold in 2021 to the Yellowstone Creator Group. Taylor Sheridan is the front man from the group but I see a Teton Ridge LLC corporation licensed in Weatherford, TX listed as a Foreign Entity that was just created in 2021 and one of the holdings listed is “tr6666”. Yellowstone Forever - Another Enviornmental NGO I have another interesting factoid about Thomas Tull and Teton Ridge. He recently donated $1 million to Yellowstone Forever. This NGO, like so many others, claims to be improving wildlife in the natural ecosystem. If you go to their website, you will see that they have programs to improve habitat for Montana wolves and cougars. In addition, they have a goal of getting bison outside the boundaries of Yellowstone National Park. In fact, as I read the language on their website it parallels that of the American Prairieland Reserve that has been consuming Montana land faster than a range fire. Know What You Are Supporting Folks, to be blunt, apparently that is what makes the Duttons so popular. The Chinese are preying on our history and heritage in the Western culture while they steal the land and resources right out from under us. The worst part of it is, they are doing that with hoards of people buying t-Shirts to cheer them on as if this is the John Wayne revival we have been waiting for. I know the die hard fans of Yellowstone are not going to pay attention but I simply want to point out that once again we are our own worst enemy. Once we head down this path, how far will we get before Americans wake up and see the truth before it’s too late! #TetonRidge #nrcha #ncha #NCHAFuturity #NRHAFuturity #betterbarrel #barrelracing #aqha #aqhaproud #foursixes #YellowstoneTV #yellowstoneseason4 #runforamillion | |
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Location: California | SKM - 2021-11-29 4:24 AM
I'm skeptical. Tull sold his Legendary movie company to the second richest man in China for $3.5 billion. The Chinese have been buying up film companies left and right. Reason being is that if they control the movies, they can paint a better picture of themselves for the rest of the world to see. That was a quote from Forbes about the sale of Legendary for those of you that want to try and disprove me.
When the 6666 sold, Taylor Sheridan was the front man for an undisclosed buyer. Doesn't take a genius to figure out it's probably the Chinese. A lot of Chinese are obsessed with the Western lifestyle.
Teton Ridge are also corporate sponsors of the PRCA, PBR, AQHA, NCHA, NRCHA. The reining team they put in place is the elite of elite. The Run For A Million that Sheridan put together for the NRCHA has him competing in the non pro and Teton Ridge has horses in it. They are also buying up stallions and well known mares. If you think the sale of the BBR to them is going to benefit 5D Betty Barrel Racer, you're probably in for a rude awakening.
My concern is that if this Western Lifestyle house of cards they're building comes toppling down, the impact on so many will be huge. You should ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth. You might decide to take that sucker home, but you'd better be fully aware of the maintenance required to keep it going down the road.
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Location: Jersey Girl | Who and/or what is Teton Ridge..?? | |
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Who and/or what is Teton Ridge..??
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Location: OH | We are from the Pittsburgh area and know people that work for him. He has a big farm outside of Pittsburgh---they have a ton of dairy cattle they milk to make some AWESOME ice cream. Last year when the pandemic was going on, he had a ton of ice cream that he needed to get rid of---he supplies it for the Pirates, Steelers, and Penguins games--no games, so tons of ice cream. He donated it to us for our charity fundraiser barrel race that we have for Dreaming Of Three to sell ot give away---whatever we wanted. We did not realize the amout he was talking---he sent down a BIG refrigerated truck with portable coolers and set them up everywhere---it was something like 1700 half gallons---a whole bunch of quarts and I think 100 5 gallon buckets of ice cream. He has shows at his farm and honestly---I think he loves the western lifestyle and wants to be involved. Hopefully I am right. | |
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| I read this morning that teton ridge tried to buy pink buckle & pink buckle said no way buzz off. Good job p.b. JMHO I believe china is involved which makes me sick. They are trying to take over our country & have been for quite a while. In Okla they are buying up land for pot farms. We have 104 acres & this company in tx, we believe is china backed keeps contacting us to buy our land. No Way !! I hate china. They have done enough damage to our country. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I just hope that the Fort Worth Stockyards dont fall under this Teton Ridge Spell.. Teton Ridge does raise eye brows over how fast he is moving in on the western Lifestyle, Everything he is buying up is happening so fast, its all been happening this year 2021, why now and why so fast! The Teton Ridge trademark Status date was on 11-12-2021,Filing Date is 2-16-2021 and now all the buying up of everything Horses,ranchs, sports thats all about rodeo and ranching! This is really fast to fast, so why so fast? I just pray this man dont buy up Texas and sell us off. After looking him up and reading on his dealings I'm getting a bit more worried at what his intentions could really be. I think we have the right to be worried, after this year of everything tanking having this new President in charge there should be alot to be concerned about. | |
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| Yes, why now and why the fire under their butt to buy it all and secure the contacts with the elites of the sports, equine and human? Why? If it doesn't make you want to question it,.... or just automatically think oh ANY growth for our sport or lifestyle is welcomed and should be embraced, because I've seen plenty of people say that, people I use to respect and look up to... supporting this and getting upset with those who are saying ... hey wait a minute, what's the story here, why the sudden interest and what impact is this going to have on the regular folk ... basically being told to hush up you don't understand you don't run for that kind of money so you don't count and you are paranoid ... growth is good ... blah blah.. sorry .. I totally disagree and I'm not just jumping on some bandwagon... I'd say they are the ones jumping on a bandwagon following a dollar on a fishing line .... | |
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| Palopony - 2021-12-02 11:22 AM
I have no idea what is going on or who to support over this deal.
I do however have a question for you all.
Would you rather he spend his money going to space?or
It sure makes for interesting reading & watching.
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| Just something to think about. China, Russia & other foreign countries have been buying up stuff for a long time now. I am a born & raised californian. In the late 70's all of a sudden people from vietnam started moving into Garden Grove where I am from. They slowly started buying up buisness's & if a buisness owner didn't want to sell, they made life very hard for them. By the early 80's the once owned buisness's I grew up with were all oriental & so were their buisness signs. The city of Garden Grove told them they had to put english on their signs along with their writting & they basically told the city where to stick it. They never changed their signs. As time went on, things got worse. I had a oriental guy spit at me at a gas station cause I was a white girl. Bob & I got married in 1987 & moved to okla. We couldn't stand Calif anymore. We went back in 1997 to see my dad. On the 22 freeway which was the garden grove freeway, there was a sign that read, Little Siegon next exit. So now what was garden grove is now little siegon or however you spell it. We were sick seeing this & have never been back to orange county or garden grove since & we never will. Oh & the buisness signs were still in orintal writting  So I'm not surprised that china, etc is buying up what they can because they hate the USA & want to take it over. I think this has been their plan for a long time & biden is feeding them to do it. | |
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| This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004 | |
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Location: OH | okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM
This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004
Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world. | |
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okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM
This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004
Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world.
Fuethermore---do we really think Sherri and Hailey would be involved with anything shady ? Both have really good advisors and neither need the money, I dang sure know that Mel would not be on board with it if he didn't think it was a good thing. | |
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okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM
This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004
Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world.
Fuethermore---do we really think Sherri and Hailey would be involved with anything shady ? Both have really good advisors and neither need the money, I dang sure know that Mel would not be on board with it if he didn't think it was a good thing.
What might be good for wealthy people might not be good for the industry (and the little guy) as a whole. Time will tell. | |
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okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM
This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004
Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world.
Fuethermore---do we really think Sherri and Hailey would be involved with anything shady ? Both have really good advisors and neither need the money, I dang sure know that Mel would not be on board with it if he didn't think it was a good thing.
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| Mighty Broke - 2021-12-03 8:44 AM okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004 Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world. I know Mel well enough to know he wouldn't approve of a bad deal. I'll wait & see what happens. Alot of crap going on in this world today. My question again, why be buying up horse industries ? To better the western way of life ?? It's fine the way it is. And no Sherry would never be involved in anything bad but people can be known to be deseiving.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | okhorselover - 2021-12-03 10:51 AM
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okhorselover - 2021-12-02 8:29 PM
This is scary. I just googled teton ridge. Teton Ridge Ranch accommodates no more people than can fit in its horse-drawn sleigh: 14. Typically, however, no more than 10 at a time enjoy this Tetonia, Idaho, retreat, which is said to be owned by Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen (though ranch officials decline to comment on their boss' identity).Mar 1, 2004
Thomas Tull owns Teton Ridge---google him. He is an amazing story, he is NOT CHINA. He sold a production company years ago to a China entity and now says that the China he dealt with back then is not the China we are dealing with now and he sees China as the biggest threat to America. People are complaining about him donating to Democrats---Trump did the same thing when in the business world.
I know Mel well enough to know he wouldn't approve of a bad deal. I'll wait & see what happens. Alot of crap going on in this world today. My question again, why be buying up horse industries ? To better the western way of life ?? It's fine the way it was. And no Sherry would never be involved in anything bad but people can be known to be deseiving.
I think our way of life and the Western Lifestyle is great!! I dont see how it can be improved any better then what it is now, and having a city person coming in and telling everybody that he can improved it better then what it is now IS hog wash!!! I just wonder why hes buying up every thing possable in such a hurry. I just pray hes really doing this out of the goodness of his heart. I think buying up Space would have been better myself, lol.. And leave things the way they are, nothings broken!! The way things have been going with the President I dont trust anybody that thinks they can improve our lifestyle. | |
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| Just because they are amongst the elite of the sport and have made it this far doesn't make them immune to poor business decisions and or making a mistake. Money can make very smart talented people do very stupid things. I stand by that something isn't exactly right with all this. I was really pulling for Dona Kay last night. But I was pleased with the leader board. | |
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Location: OH | Don't get me wrong, he will be doing this with intent to make money. Go watch some videos on him on Youtube, amazing stuff. But he looks for industries that are under represented. He feels that the equine industry is under represented as far as profesional athletes go. Imagine---20-25 of the best barrel racers competeing on TV live---how exciting would that be for our industry. Think of all the young kids watching and say---I want to do that. Instead of people looking down at what we do, they would be lloking up at us. This is the man to do it---he has the means and he has the connections. | |
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| Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO | |
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Location: My happy place | Some of you are really crazy IMO to support money spent on space travel VS something you say you love and support. Those bad Taylor Sheridan people are at the NCHA Futurity raising money for cancer tonight. If you go to nchacutting.com and click on futurity webcast you can watch the Yellowstone people raise money for cancer charity. Right now live. ETA: Lloyd was a wreck, Teeter can ride but had bad luck, Jimmy got a gift of a score but did a great job. Tom Watson was great.
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| Meh... so what... the kind of money they have they could donate easily more than they could probably raise. It's a nice gesture, don't get me wrong here. How much of that money goes directly to cancer patients and families? Just because they do stuff like this doesn't necessarily mean they are the stand up citizens some want to portray they are. I don't know exactly how much Yellowstone people are involved with Teton Ridge... so it may be completely separate deal one not having anything to do with the other. When my son had a cancer benefit family from my ex husband's side showed up and dropped a very substantial amount of money in front of everyone .... they also left with a bunch of items that didn't belong to them that we had to replace out of our own pocket so the folks that bid and won the item actually got what they paid for. They also took a nice Henry rifle that my brother in law bid and won and donated to my son to have.... when we figured out who had it, we kept asking for it back was told it was being engraved for my boy .... it took 2 years of constant asking and complaining.. ignored phone calls and messages ... it was finally returned to us with a crummy TINY engraved cancer sign on it. 2 years we fought to get that back for my boy. People doing Nobel things in front of a crowd aren't always super awesome amazing generous people..... just from my own experience. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Palopony - 2021-12-03 8:34 PM
Some of you are really crazy IMO to support money spent on space travel VS something you say you love and support.
Those bad Taylor Sheridan people are at the NCHA Futurity raising money for cancer tonight. If you go to nchacutting.com and click on futurity webcast you can watch the Yellowstone people raise money for cancer charity. Right now live.
ETA: Lloyd was a wreck, Teeter can ride but had bad luck, Jimmy got a gift of a score but did a great job. Tom Watson was great.
I need to go back and reread and see who said that Taylor Sheridan and his people were bad, I must have messed that, Nobody said anything bad about Yellowstone that I remember either. So now you name calling us on here, for why? Why did you go there?!! Nobody said they support space travel, LOL you are the one that brought that up about space, so why did space even come to mind, ha ha ha ha, we were just saying space to entertain you, and it worked. I would love that he spend money on people that needed help, like our Vets that are living on the streets, hungry children/adults, the homeless and theres alot more, pretty sure hes already doing that right!!! I think our western ways, as in horses are awesome the way they are now, I didnt know that it was so bad in you peoples eyes, heck I think its doing pretty darn good. You once again are saying things that were never said on here.. Now back to the NFR.. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I will preface this by saying that I am OLD .... and this whole thread reminds me of years ago of all of the b*tching, p*ssing and moaning that happened when Las Vegas wanted to take over the NFR .... and look how THAT ended! These billionaires put MILLIONS into football, basketball, baseball and every other sport ...... WHY then is it so bad that one wants to put money into the "western" sports? WHY NOT give the man a chance and THEN b*tch if it goes bad instead of bad mouthing the person on PUBLIC forums???? | |
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I will preface this by saying that I am OLD .... and this whole thread reminds me of years ago of all of the b*tching, p*ssing and moaning that happened when Las Vegas wanted to take over the NFR .... and look how THAT ended! These billionaires put MILLIONS into football, basketball, baseball and every other sport ...... WHY then is it so bad that one wants to put money into the "western" sports? WHY NOT give the man a chance and THEN b*tch if it goes bad instead of bad mouthing the person on PUBLIC forums????
Pretty sure you are all over FB *****ing over everythig so maybe don't point the finger at others. Why is it unusual for folks to discuss something as big as a billionaire taking over the biggest platforms in the sport, am I concerned? Maybe there ain't nothing I can do it about it. Have not read anyone making attacks on TR just discussing. | |
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| I highly doubt any of those big wigs involved give 2 wet toots what we think on here or even people raising heck on Facebook really. I've enjoyed the discussion personally... I'm glad there are like minded folks out there, that believe things are fine just the way they are/were. We already get to watch the best of the best each year. One thing I've always loved about the speed events ... there's way less politics involved... you're either faster or you're not. Reining and cutting are judged by a person or people ... don't know how l that works... you're given a score based off of someone's opinion. Run for a million etc etc... not trying to get too off topic but you can kinda see where I'm getting at. | |
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Location: where the wind blows | okhorselover - 2021-12-03 7:30 PM
Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | okhorselover - 2021-12-03 7:30 PM
Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
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Location: My happy place | Southtxponygirl - 2021-12-03 10:23 PM Palopony - 2021-12-03 8:34 PM Some of you are really crazy IMO to support money spent on space travel VS something you say you love and support. Those bad Taylor Sheridan people are at the NCHA Futurity raising money for cancer tonight. If you go to nchacutting.com and click on futurity webcast you can watch the Yellowstone people raise money for cancer charity. Right now live. ETA: Lloyd was a wreck, Teeter can ride but had bad luck, Jimmy got a gift of a score but did a great job. Tom Watson was great. I need to go back and reread and see who said that Taylor Sheridan and his people were bad, I must have messed that, Nobody said anything bad about Yellowstone that I remember either. So now you name calling us on here, for why? Why did you go there?!! Nobody said they support space travel, LOL you are the one that brought that up about space, so why did space even come to mind, ha ha ha ha, we were just saying space to entertain you, and it worked. I would love that he spend money on people that needed help, like our Vets that are living on the streets, hungry children/adults, the homeless and theres alot more, pretty sure hes already doing that right!!! I think our western ways, as in horses are awesome the way they are now, I didnt know that it was so bad in you peoples eyes, heck I think its doing pretty darn good. You once again are saying things that were never said on here.. Now back to the NFR.. If I remember right, many were complaining about how TS portrayed barrel racers on Yellowstone. I did find it funny someone said the reining trainers were correct. I did think it was bad ass when she pulled the knife out of Walker. It really shocks me when people want to tell others how to donate money. I personally don't care. I think buying horses and promoting a sport I love over sending people to space is a win in my book. Want2chase3 So happy for you he is an ex. Check out the sales at the NCHA Futurity, it's crazy prices. Just saw a 20 year od stud sell for 1.3 million. FYI horses have always been a rich mans sport. But if you have talent and a work ethic you can win. Watching you all get all upset really shocks me, it's still the fastest time wins. Try showing cutters or reiners. My issue is they are raising them like puppies and ruining the breed by doing it. JMO
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Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
Perhaps you should research the Tull Family foundation to see how much money this man donates .......
"Last year, on the same day that Trump officially launched his Presidential bid, his campaign provided a specific number: a “summary of net worth” document made public that day stated that Trump had given away $102 million between 2009 and 2014." New Yorker So that's just about $20M per year for Trump - who is evil in your opinion. PELOSI FOUNDATION: Tax period ending: 2015-12 Received by IRS: Dec. 28, 2016 Form year: 2015 Form: 990PF EIN: 94-3150212 Download:
Pelosi Foundation - Line 25, Contributions, $92K for 2015 (and all years were within 10% of this for as many years as I could find). And she's the ultimate liberal, and probably wealthier than Trump by 10x. Charitable dontations are normal and expected from anyone who makes a great deal of money annually. Great deal as in 7-8-9-10+ figures. It does not signify that the person is good or bad. It's part of how they write off so much income. Even if they 'believe' in their cause/s, it's only because of the tax write off that they donate so much. Or, they are trying to buy influence somewhere, somehow. | |
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okhorselover - 2021-12-03 7:30 PM
Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
Perhaps you should research the Tull Family foundation to see how much money this man donates .......
"Last year, on the same day that Trump officially launched his Presidential bid, his campaign provided a specific number: a “summary of net worth” document made public that day stated that Trump had given away $102 million between 2009 and 2014." New Yorker
So that's just about $20M per year for Trump - who is evil in your opinion.
PELOSI FOUNDATION:
Tax period ending:
2015-12
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Dec. 28, 2016
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Pelosi Foundation - Line 25, Contributions, $92K for 2015 (and all years were within 10% of this for as many years as I could find). And she's the ultimate liberal, and probably wealthier than Trump by 10x.
Charitable dontations are normal and expected from anyone who makes a great deal of money annually. Great deal as in 7-8-9-10+ figures. It does not signify that the person is good or bad. It's part of how they write off so much income. Even if they 'believe' in their cause/s, it's only because of the tax write off that they donate so much. Or, they are trying to buy influence somewhere, somehow.
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lonely va barrelxr - 2021-12-09 9:52 AM
NJJ - 2021-12-09 10:04 AM
okhorselover - 2021-12-03 7:30 PM
Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
Perhaps you should research the Tull Family foundation to see how much money this man donates .......
"Last year, on the same day that Trump officially launched his Presidential bid, his campaign provided a specific number: a “summary of net worth” document made public that day stated that Trump had given away $102 million between 2009 and 2014." New Yorker
So that's just about $20M per year for Trump - who is evil in your opinion.
PELOSI FOUNDATION:
Tax period ending:
2015-12
Received by IRS:
Dec. 28, 2016
Form year:
2015
Form:
990PF
EIN:
94-3150212
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Pelosi Foundation - Line 25, Contributions, $92K for 2015 (and all years were within 10% of this for as many years as I could find). And she's the ultimate liberal, and probably wealthier than Trump by 10x.
Charitable dontations are normal and expected from anyone who makes a great deal of money annually. Great deal as in 7-8-9-10+ figures. It does not signify that the person is good or bad. It's part of how they write off so much income. Even if they 'believe' in their cause/s, it's only because of the tax write off that they donate so much. Or, they are trying to buy influence somewhere, somehow.
This was a silly post. Oh well, on with your day.
Silly is the posts trying to claim this Tull person is a great person for donating so much each year. Donations have nothing to do with a persons goodness or badness. It has to do with their income level. Since Pelosi and Trump are complete opposites on anyone's radar I thought these two examples would be good. Especially since NJJ is a Trump hater. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | lonely va barrelxr - 2021-12-09 2:17 PM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2021-12-09 9:52 AM
NJJ - 2021-12-09 10:04 AM
okhorselover - 2021-12-03 7:30 PM
Personally I think our western way of life, rodeo, cutting, etc are just fine. Let it alone. If I had this guys money, "and I'm being 100% honest here" I would be very comfrotable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports. JMHO
Perhaps you should research the Tull Family foundation to see how much money this man donates .......
"Last year, on the same day that Trump officially launched his Presidential bid, his campaign provided a specific number: a “summary of net worth” document made public that day stated that Trump had given away $102 million between 2009 and 2014." New Yorker
So that's just about $20M per year for Trump - who is evil in your opinion.
PELOSI FOUNDATION:
Tax period ending:
2015-12
Received by IRS:
Dec. 28, 2016
Form year:
2015
Form:
990PF
EIN:
94-3150212
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Pelosi Foundation - Line 25, Contributions, $92K for 2015 (and all years were within 10% of this for as many years as I could find). And she's the ultimate liberal, and probably wealthier than Trump by 10x.
Charitable dontations are normal and expected from anyone who makes a great deal of money annually. Great deal as in 7-8-9-10+ figures. It does not signify that the person is good or bad. It's part of how they write off so much income. Even if they 'believe' in their cause/s, it's only because of the tax write off that they donate so much. Or, they are trying to buy influence somewhere, somehow.
This was a silly post. Oh well, on with your day.
Silly is the posts trying to claim this Tull person is a great person for donating so much each year. Donations have nothing to do with a persons goodness or badness. It has to do with their income level.
Since Pelosi and Trump are complete opposites on anyone's radar I thought these two examples would be good. Especially since NJJ is a Trump hater.
Point taken ..... Thomas Tull is surely a sh*tty person because you can compare him to the WORST ....... TRUMP !!!! Of course, you have literally MISSED MY point regarding HER statement of "I would be very comfortable with my life " and I am without money like he has" and I would take that money & help the vetrans, the homeless, etc instead of trying to to whatever he is trying to do to rodeo & other equine sports" But then, why should I be surprised that NO THREAD here can ever be discussed WITHOUT making it "political" ..... good job! | |
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| Mighty Broke - 2021-12-03 3:18 PM
Don't get me wrong, he will be doing this with intent to make money. Go watch some videos on him on Youtube, amazing stuff. But he looks for industries that are under represented. He feels that the equine industry is under represented as far as profesional athletes go. Imagine---20-25 of the best barrel racers competeing on TV live---how exciting would that be for our industry. Think of all the young kids watching and say---I want to do that. Instead of people looking down at what we do, they would be lloking up at us. This is the man to do it---he has the means and he has the connections.
I feel the same way, maybe just my optimism but country is "cool" right now. its the perfect time to invest in an industry thats underrepresented and seemingly popular. | |
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| I just saw a TV report on results from a big horse sale very recently where all the top dollar horses were bought by them - guessing they bought more than just the top dollar ones. I would have to agree with several on here, VERY skeptical - a lot of things don't quite add up. In and of themselves, each thing seems very little - but when you start putting them all together, starts to smell just a little fishy. They just applied for their Foreign LLC in Texas in early September. Their website was just made in 2021. They are buying up or trying to buy up every western production - PRCA, NFR, American, BBR, and many more. In a search of who owns Teton Ridge Ranch, I found this: "Who owns Teton Ridge Ranch? The ranch was purchased in 1993 by Microsoft founder Paul Allen. There are only seven guest rooms at this two-story log cabin on 4,000 acres, as well as a 45-horse stable, and a spectacular view of the Tetons can be had from the vaulted main lounge." Granted he has since passed and no longer owns it, but that seems a little too closely aligned with Bill Gates. These are just a few odd things I have found in the last day or two - I didn't even know about Teton Ridge until just before the NFR started when Sherry Cervi posted her partnership with them. I heard someone during an interview today at the NFR talking about how rodeo is about country lifestyle, prayer, the pledge of allegiance, loving your country, God, family, etc. - that is exactly what some do NOT want for our country. The western lifestyle is what is a target right now because of the faith and belief of all of the cowboys/girls. My husband and I feel that buying up all of these things is totally about controlling an entire group and way of life that they haven't been able to get control of during this past year. When they, Teton Ridge, gets control of all of the big events and the "big" participants, it is only a matter of time before that house falls. I don't see anything good coming from this. I hope I am very wrong and that I don't know enough about them yet, but that "gut" feeling is there and just can't be ignored. | |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | One thing I know for sure, the acquisitions are what they are. All the whining, suppositions and conspiracies theories in the world will not turn back time and facts. So why not take a deep breath and watch instead of crossing bridges that are nowhere in sight. Seems it would save a lot of wadded panties. The energy may be needed if all the predictions come true. | |
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| Copied and pasted this post I found this morning on Facebook from some socialite I've never heard of, it was shared on a page that I actually do follow. . Some of the comments made me LOL . So you’re telling me that in order to call myself a cowgirl or cowboy I have to meet a bunch of made up requirements by ding dongs on social media? I saw several conversations on social media after the NFR that were embarrassing. They didn’t earn it. They don’t deserve it. They don’t even get it. They aren’t qualified. Those ???? are just a few of the small minded (insecure) phrases that were being thrown around. Sometimes in simple memes and sometimes in lengthy posts. Both equally as toxic. This has to stop. In your eyes the city girl on the right in impractical clothes may not have earned the right to call herself a cowgirl, but if you write her off too soon you’ll never know she’s also the girl on the left. Mark my words nobody gets to decide if and how you embrace cowgirl and cowboy culture. You don’t need to live on a ranch to love and appreciate cowboy culture. You don’t need to know how to ride a horse or even the rules of rodeo to attend one. You don’t need to earn anything. If you have an appreciation for this way of life then you get to be in this space. I’m exhausted with this rhetoric that only people who are “qualified” get to wear a cowboy hat, carry a rope, wear cowboy boots or attend a rodeo. The only way this industry is going to grow and evolve is if we start being a little more welcoming. This whole “but they didn’t earn it” narrative is worn out. We can still protect and honor the traditions that make cowboy culture great while allowing non-traditional representatives to step into our community. We desperately need fresh perspectives, ideas and representation in the Western and agriculture communities. I’m not trying to destroy deep rooted cowboy ways by bringing in radical outsiders. Quite the opposite. I’m trying to ensure that people who celebrate and appreciate our way of life aren’t run off simply because they don’t know all the nuisances attached to the lifestyle. I think it’s an honor that people want to dress like cowboys and buy tickets to rodeos. I think the fact that people who may not fully understand it want to be part of it is flattering. Nobody gets to determine if you belong. There are no prerequisites. | |
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Location: Texas | want2chase3 - 2021-12-21 7:23 AM
Copied and pasted this post I found this morning on Facebook from some socialite I've never heard of, it was shared on a page that I actually do follow. . Some of the comments made me LOL .
So you’re telling me that in order to call myself a cowgirl or cowboy I have to meet a bunch of made up requirements by ding dongs on social media?
I saw several conversations on social media after the NFR that were embarrassing.
They didn’t earn it.
They don’t deserve it.
They don’t even get it.
They aren’t qualified.
Those ???? are just a few of the small minded (insecure) phrases that were being thrown around. Sometimes in simple memes and sometimes in lengthy posts. Both equally as toxic. This has to stop.
In your eyes the city girl on the right in impractical clothes may not have earned the right to call herself a cowgirl, but if you write her off too soon you’ll never know she’s also the girl on the left.
Mark my words nobody gets to decide if and how you embrace cowgirl and cowboy culture.
You don’t need to live on a ranch to love and appreciate cowboy culture. You don’t need to know how to ride a horse or even the rules of rodeo to attend one. You don’t need to earn anything. If you have an appreciation for this way of life then you get to be in this space.
I’m exhausted with this rhetoric that only people who are “qualified” get to wear a cowboy hat, carry a rope, wear cowboy boots or attend a rodeo.
The only way this industry is going to grow and evolve is if we start being a little more welcoming. This whole “but they didn’t earn it” narrative is worn out.
We can still protect and honor the traditions that make cowboy culture great while allowing non-traditional representatives to step into our community. We desperately need fresh perspectives, ideas and representation in the Western and agriculture communities.
I’m not trying to destroy deep rooted cowboy ways by bringing in radical outsiders. Quite the opposite. I’m trying to ensure that people who celebrate and appreciate our way of life aren’t run off simply because they don’t know all the nuisances attached to the lifestyle.
I think it’s an honor that people want to dress like cowboys and buy tickets to rodeos. I think the fact that people who may not fully understand it want to be part of it is flattering.
Nobody gets to determine if you belong.
There are no prerequisites.
I had to LOL at the second to last paragraph. Nuisances vs. nuance.  | |
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| want2chase3 - 2021-12-21 7:23 AM Copied and pasted this post I found this morning on Facebook from some socialite I've never heard of, it was shared on a page that I actually do follow. . Some of the comments made me LOL . So you’re telling me that in order to call myself a cowgirl or cowboy I have to meet a bunch of made up requirements by ding dongs on social media? I saw several conversations on social media after the NFR that were embarrassing. They didn’t earn it. They don’t deserve it. They don’t even get it. They aren’t qualified. Those ???? are just a few of the small minded (insecure) phrases that were being thrown around. Sometimes in simple memes and sometimes in lengthy posts. Both equally as toxic. This has to stop. In your eyes the city girl on the right in impractical clothes may not have earned the right to call herself a cowgirl, but if you write her off too soon you’ll never know she’s also the girl on the left. Mark my words nobody gets to decide if and how you embrace cowgirl and cowboy culture. You don’t need to live on a ranch to love and appreciate cowboy culture. You don’t need to know how to ride a horse or even the rules of rodeo to attend one. You don’t need to earn anything. If you have an appreciation for this way of life then you get to be in this space. I’m exhausted with this rhetoric that only people who are “qualified” get to wear a cowboy hat, carry a rope, wear cowboy boots or attend a rodeo. The only way this industry is going to grow and evolve is if we start being a little more welcoming. This whole “but they didn’t earn it” narrative is worn out. We can still protect and honor the traditions that make cowboy culture great while allowing non-traditional representatives to step into our community. We desperately need fresh perspectives, ideas and representation in the Western and agriculture communities. I’m not trying to destroy deep rooted cowboy ways by bringing in radical outsiders. Quite the opposite. I’m trying to ensure that people who celebrate and appreciate our way of life aren’t run off simply because they don’t know all the nuisances attached to the lifestyle. I think it’s an honor that people want to dress like cowboys and buy tickets to rodeos. I think the fact that people who may not fully understand it want to be part of it is flattering. Nobody gets to determine if you belong. There are no prerequisites. I can assure you the "socialite" you are referring to is the farthest from a socialite that you can find. She is a cowgirl in every way. She comes from generations of cowboys and cowgirls, ranchers and farmers. She was a high school and college rodeo contestant. She often posts pictures of her working cattle along side her grandparents and parents. She is not afraid to work hard and getting dirty.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | y'all seem pretty worked up over this deal. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | tebar - 2021-12-22 6:33 PM
Some things are not for sale. You can't buy respect, no matter how much you spend or who you buy.
Agreed, respect is something you have to earn!!!!!! | |
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| CHUTE HELP - 2021-12-22 1:15 PM
want2chase3 - 2021-12-21 7:23 AM
Copied and pasted this post I found this morning on Facebook from some socialite I've never heard of, it was shared on a page that I actually do follow. . Some of the comments made me LOL .
So you’re telling me that in order to call myself a cowgirl or cowboy I have to meet a bunch of made up requirements by ding dongs on social media?
I saw several conversations on social media after the NFR that were embarrassing.
They didn’t earn it.
They don’t deserve it.
They don’t even get it.
They aren’t qualified.
Those ???? are just a few of the small minded (insecure) phrases that were being thrown around. Sometimes in simple memes and sometimes in lengthy posts. Both equally as toxic. This has to stop.
In your eyes the city girl on the right in impractical clothes may not have earned the right to call herself a cowgirl, but if you write her off too soon you’ll never know she’s also the girl on the left.
Mark my words nobody gets to decide if and how you embrace cowgirl and cowboy culture.
You don’t need to live on a ranch to love and appreciate cowboy culture. You don’t need to know how to ride a horse or even the rules of rodeo to attend one. You don’t need to earn anything. If you have an appreciation for this way of life then you get to be in this space.
I’m exhausted with this rhetoric that only people who are “qualified” get to wear a cowboy hat, carry a rope, wear cowboy boots or attend a rodeo.
The only way this industry is going to grow and evolve is if we start being a little more welcoming. This whole “but they didn’t earn it” narrative is worn out.
We can still protect and honor the traditions that make cowboy culture great while allowing non-traditional representatives to step into our community. We desperately need fresh perspectives, ideas and representation in the Western and agriculture communities.
I’m not trying to destroy deep rooted cowboy ways by bringing in radical outsiders. Quite the opposite. I’m trying to ensure that people who celebrate and appreciate our way of life aren’t run off simply because they don’t know all the nuisances attached to the lifestyle.
I think it’s an honor that people want to dress like cowboys and buy tickets to rodeos. I think the fact that people who may not fully understand it want to be part of it is flattering.
Nobody gets to determine if you belong.
There are no prerequisites.
I can assure you the "socialite" you are referring to is the farthest from a socialite that you can find. She is a cowgirl in every way. She comes from generations of cowboys and cowgirls, ranchers and farmers. She was a high school and college rodeo contestant. She often posts pictures of her working cattle along side her grandparents and parents. She is not afraid to work hard and getting
dirty.
Good for her! I've never heard of her.... but I just don't agree with all that she wrote. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | stayceem - 2021-12-09 4:58 PM
Mighty Broke - 2021-12-03 3:18 PM
Don't get me wrong, he will be doing this with intent to make money. Go watch some videos on him on Youtube, amazing stuff. But he looks for industries that are under represented. He feels that the equine industry is under represented as far as profesional athletes go. Imagine---20-25 of the best barrel racers competeing on TV live---how exciting would that be for our industry. Think of all the young kids watching and say---I want to do that. Instead of people looking down at what we do, they would be lloking up at us. This is the man to do it---he has the means and he has the connections.
I feel the same way, maybe just my optimism but country is "cool" right now. its the perfect time to invest in an industry thats underrepresented and seemingly popular.
I see something like "Run for the Million" that promoted the reining industry ..... " Run for the American" promoting barrel racing....makes since with the "teams" formed recently and acquistions. | |
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