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letswin
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 12:33 PM
Subject: Underground dog fencing


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I need some feedback on using the electronic dog fencing system. We have moved and need some fencing for our lab and aussie. I keep them penned during the day but turn them out when I'm at the barn but we now live in an area with more houses and don't want them roaming so we will either fence or use the underground fence. My aussie sometimes isn't the smartest dog on earth, don't know how trainable he is on learning the "boundaries" of the fence. Anyone have success with this type of fence?
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bocephus's mama
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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It worked well on mine...until a neighbor's dog came IN. My dog still has the scars from that beat-down. 
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2013-11-25 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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Some dogs take right to it, and remember the boundaries for life, and will not cross them for anything even when the collar is removed.

Others.... Well, they are more stubborn.

I've had two different underground fences at two different places, with lots of dogs through the years. It's about a 50/50 shot.
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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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I need feedback on this, too.  Hope you don't mind me jumping in on your thread, Letswin? We have done everything to keep our outside dogs in but one has learned to just leap over the back fence. It's probably 4 ft tall and he only jumps it in the backyard even though it is the same height all the way around the property.  I suppose given time he will just jump it wherever. Anyway, we will be moving to a new place in about a month and a half and they will not have any yard, just 80 acres and hundreds behind us where no one lives but on one side of us we will have neighbors and they have chickens, goats, mini horses and other dogs.  If I know my boys they will pay them a visit and I don't want them to kill anything!  Anyway, I was thinking about an underground fence, also.  Do you think the "Houdini" dog will eventually ignore it?  He seems to have a very high prey drive. 
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kanchazer
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-11-25 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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We tried the underground fence for our acre. Our ground is very wet in the pasture and very Rocky where our house is. We kept having the line get broken and it was really hard to find where and fix it. We now have the wireless dog fence and like it. Our black mouth cur really respects it, however our border collie has such thick long hair we have to shave his neck for the collar to work. Our only problem has been the dogs eating each others collars

This is what we have it can be bought at petco, petsmart or home depot. http://store.petsafe.net/wireless-containment-system
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Outwest
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2013-11-25 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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We've been using the system for 7 years and it works great.   

Our lab stays in for the most part even when his collar isn't on anymore.   And it didn't take much for him to learn his boundaries. 

When we installed it we attached the wire to one of the lower wires of our fences with zipties.   We put it underground at gates, driveways and places like that.  

But we have had a steer chew it once, and had to replace the motherboard once.   The only time we had a visitor dog come over was a neighbors dog in heat and he wouldn't cross his boundary!!   
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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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kanchazer - 2013-11-25 10:06 PM We tried the underground fence for our acre. Our ground is very wet in the pasture and very Rocky where our house is. We kept having the line get broken and it was really hard to find where and fix it. We now have the wireless dog fence and like it. Our black mouth cur really respects it, however our border collie has such thick long hair we have to shave his neck for the collar to work. Our only problem has been the dogs eating each others collars



This is what we have it can be bought at petco, petsmart or home depot. http://store.petsafe.net/wireless-containment-system

I was reading about both the wired and wireless models and they both have pros and cons.  We have very sandy soil here and no rocks.  I was thinking we would put the perimeter around the shop and barn which would be about an acre.  Did you spend a lot of time training the dogs to the new contraptions?  It's weird that they have decided to chew each others collars.  My extra special "Digger/jumper/tear thru almost anything" is scared to death of the shock collar so I think this might keep him in for a while...it would be nice if it did forever.  
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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2013-11-25 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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I actually have the unit that plugs into an outlet and puts an up to 90ft barrier around where the unit is plugged it . LOVE it! You can take it will you anywhere and no digging!
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kanchazer
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-11-26 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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Kaycee - 2013-11-25 9:16 PM
kanchazer - 2013-11-25 10:06 PM We tried the underground fence for our acre. Our ground is very wet in the pasture and very Rocky where our house is. We kept having the line get broken and it was really hard to find where and fix it. We now have the wireless dog fence and like it. Our black mouth cur really respects it, however our border collie has such thick long hair we have to shave his neck for the collar to work. Our only problem has been the dogs eating each others collars



This is what we have it can be bought at petco, petsmart or home depot. http://store.petsafe.net/wireless-containment-system
I was reading about both the wired and wireless models and they both have pros and cons.  We have very sandy soil here and no rocks.  I was thinking we would put the perimeter around the shop and barn which would be about an acre.  Did you spend a lot of time training the dogs to the new contraptions?  It's weird that they have decided to chew each others collars.  My extra special "Digger/jumper/tear thru almost anything" is scared to death of the shock collar so I think this might keep him in for a while...it would be nice if it did forever.  

The wireless and wire  was the same to train them. Our wire fence was barried and we put flags up to show then took them on a leash to show them where they could no longer go. This didn't take more than a day for the one dog. The other dog hears the beeps but he just walks on if his neck is not shaved. They do hear a beep that warns them. Our dogs wrestle and tear up collars all the time. We did have one dog that completly ignored the collar, he would flinch and run past to go to the neighbors where he was feed human food and allowed in the house they would call him to come over . This dog got out and was hit now the same neighbors were complaining about our dogs greeting their guests and bothering her clients (she grooms dogs) we have kindly asked them not to bribe our dogs to come over past the invisable fence and have had no problems. If your dog respects a shock collar he will respect this fence very easily.
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mcdaniel14
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-11-26 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing


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Ours figured out quickly that they could get through it at a dead run and not get shocked as bad, one of our females would get to the fence and get stuck on it so we would always ha e to get her off of it, she was kinda dumb though! So it didn't work for us but I won't say it isn't going to for anyone else.
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lookout hill
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-11-26 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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I have a lab & a mini aussie & use the wireless system & it works great.  They even stay in when the batteries are dead or their collar is off.  You can get 2 of the wireless & make a bigger area.  We live close to the road so it works well for us but if we ever move & it's flatter I will probably go with the in ground so they have more room to run.  It does not keep other dogs out tho which is the only downfall. 
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Ridenrun4745
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2013-11-26 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing


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We have shock collars, the wireless, and 'underground' fencing (we have the wire on top of the ground, or run with our bottom wire of pasture fence). Our house dogs, which tend to be a little more stubborn, were trained to shock collars and the wireless by the time the underground came, so they respect the 'beep' really well. Our Maremma (livestock guardian dogs) had not been on any sort of system, but they have learned it really well and we don't even keep the collar on one of them any more - the other sporadically.
The wireless is not good in hilly area. It is good for stubborn dogs as it keeps shocking I think 30 sec after they leave the perimeter. We take ours with us when we go places, the dogs do really well on it.
The underground has worked pretty good for us, except in one area where it runs about 5' under our driveway - that is a bit too far down if the batteries are weak.
Our hairy and stubborn dogs do really well on it, and our Catahoula will lock on deer if given the chance.
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-11-26 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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I had no issues with my dog and the invisible fence but some dogs won't stay in it. I had a friend that had a beagle and he would yelp as he ran thru it then would sit in the corner of the yard and bark when he was ready to come back in.  
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its payday
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2013-11-26 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing




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 I've had the underground for several years now.  It has worked really well but I've learned a few tricks.  First and most important, I ran a double strand about 4 feet apart anywhere the dogs could run through it.  If they try to run it, they clear the first wire and hit the second one just about the time they think they are free.  We started having trouble with the Blackmouth Cur running it, figured out that my outer strand had broken.  Fixed it and she has never tried it again.  Second, if you install yourself, make sure you use the heavier wire (mine is yellow coated) instead of the light, red coated that comes in a lot of the kits.  Finally, I use the heavy collars that use a 9 volt battery instead of the small collars.  Had too much trouble with the little batteries.  Even my Jack Russell carries the bigger collar easily.  It vibrates and beeps loudly when they get close to the fence so we've been able to loosen the collars quite a bit so the dogs don't mind them as much as the smaller collars that had to maintain contact to work.  Easy to train them to it.
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kasaj2000
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2013-11-26 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Underground dog fencing



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A lot depends on the temperment of the dog.  High drive dogs tend to be harder to train to respect any type of invisible fence.

With that said, we bought the Pet Safe radio fence (from tractor supply) for our Ausie.  Took about 2 weeks to train him to it, 2-3 training sessions a week and a few 'self' training sessions for him to be trusted in it.

I have the collar turned up to the next to last setting for him because sometimes he gets excited when I ride off on a horse (he wants to follow) and needs a good reminder. 

He has bounced through the fence a few times when first training and me yelling at him to 'get to the barn' sent him back in the right direction.

He was solid after about 3 months and now I leave it on him 24/7 (a little loose but still contact with skin) and only restrain him when it is time to recharge the collar.

He is a much happier dog and can do his job as chicken guard much better now.  And trust me, he KNOWS where the barrier is and you can NOT call him past it.  He will stand there and 'smile' and wag his non exhistant tail at you but will not cross it.
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