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| casualdust07 - 2013-07-19 3:52 PM
wishes4kissez - 2013-07-19 5:35 PM My vet talked about the laser thing but said it was extremely painful for the horse It was my understanding that alcohol and drilling are also pretty painful. I was told it was a lot quicker.
He said drilling was painful too but the alcohol actually deaden the nerves some what and relieves some of the pain. |
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| Runnin < C > - 2013-07-20 11:07 AM
wishes4kissez - 2013-07-19 5:34 PM He said you never want them to fuse but if they are already in such bad condition its going to happen
What?? This is barrel racing ... hocks fuse! Prime age is 4-7
This was a race track vet with over 20 years of experience as a lameness vet.... I think he knows what hes talking about. |
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Location: North Dakota | wishes4kissez - 2013-07-22 11:56 AM Runnin < C > - 2013-07-20 11:07 AM wishes4kissez - 2013-07-19 5:34 PM He said you never want them to fuse but if they are already in such bad condition its going to happen What?? This is barrel racing ... hocks fuse! Prime age is 4-7 This was a race track vet with over 20 years of experience as a lameness vet.... I think he knows what hes talking about.
Why wouldn't he want them to fuse? After they fuse they are no longer in pain. And why would you be considering alcohol injections if you didn't want them to fuse? Maybe I'm missing something here?? |
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| I have a 10 yo gelding who,is going thru this and i need some guidance i can keep,riding him but he ismstill hurting on previcox i need to keep him comfotable till he fuses. Suggestions. |
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| Anyone use Equioxx to help with the pain of fusing hocks? I believe my 10 yo is going through this, Im trying to keep riding and running him but would like to know if this is somthing that could help him. Would I give it to him before a run? Thanks! |
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| This is what I did when my rodeo horses hocks were fusing. We injected first and then started useing the Theraplate and Laser. The Laser only after 5 weeks as it can mess with the injections if done sooner. I gave Previcox everyday until I found a product called Precision Joint. After starting on the Precision Joint I was able to stop the Previcox. This horse won pro rodeos and has since went on to do well with new owners. The horse I have now is going through fusing. I have not injected but I am using the Theraplate and Laser and feeding Precision Joint and have added AE Performance Detox and Product X. I am not having any of the pain issues with fusing. |
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| This is what I did when my rodeo horses hocks were fusing. We injected first and then started useing the Theraplate and Laser. The Laser only after 5 weeks as it can mess with the injections if done sooner. I gave Previcox everyday until I found a product called Precision Joint. After starting on the Precision Joint I was able to stop the Previcox. This horse won pro rodeos and has since went on to do well with new owners. The horse I have now is going through fusing. I have not injected but I am using the Theraplate and Laser and feeding Precision Joint and have added AE Performance Detox and Product X. I am not having any of the pain issues with fusing. |
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| This is what I did when my rodeo horses hocks were fusing. We injected first and then started useing the Theraplate and Laser. The Laser only after 5 weeks as it can mess with the injections if done sooner. I gave Previcox everyday until I found a product called Precision Joint. After starting on the Precision Joint I was able to stop the Previcox. This horse won pro rodeos and has since went on to do well with new owners. The horse I have now is going through fusing. I have not injected but I am using the Theraplate and Laser and feeding Precision Joint and have added AE Performance Detox and Product X. I am not having any of the pain issues with fusing. |
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Sock Snob
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| Bump for more info as my gelding is fusing
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| bump. my horse is at the point injections are no longer working, so were at the point that a decision will have to be made about what to do. I have researched and know the different procedures, but would like to hear any recent stories about these procedures, especically the laser treatment. xrays show his hock is literally "this close" to being completely fused and I can no longer ride him because he is hurting to bad. |
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Location: SE Missouri | I did the alcohol injections to fuse my gelding. It was basically a last resort. He was terribly sore, mentally frieed, and just not useable anymore. (There is a back story that contributed also but this was after the fact) he was worse for 3/4 weeks. Then 2-3 months he just walked in the pasture. 6months hew as starting to play in the pasture. I gave him 8months off and he finally felt sound! Of course we had a stifle injury after he started clocking back in the 1D and top 2D so we are back in recovery mode, but I feel like that in my scenario it was my best option. It was a painful ordeal for him but so was everything else! I would do it again if faced with my same scenario. |
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Sock Snob
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| After going through several vets and the last being a top proformance vet on east coast he diagnosed finally the fusing hock on my gelding. He has suggested tye surgery as last resort, but he suggested 2 shockwave treatments to finish the fusing process.
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| I used alcohol on a nice horse 1/2D before alcohol, 3D afterwards. They did not do the stain though. I think it got into the upper joint because he would turn and was not sore, he just never could open up and run afterwards. I'd run from the procedure now. But, Hopefully since they use the stain now, there is less risk of that happening. Good luck!
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Sock Snob
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| Anyone do the shockwave. |
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Sock Snob
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| Anyone do the shockwave. My vet did say the alcohol injection where last resort. I think he may had some adverse reqction. |
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Sock Snob
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| Anyone do the shockwave. My vet did say the alcohol injection where last resort. I think he may had some adverse reqction. |
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Location: Midwest | I would not have the alcohol procedure done without the dye procedure done beforehand. It is EXTREMELY important that the joint capsules have no communication.
The University told me that they have a high success rate, but they do the dye/U/S procedure prior to the ethanol injection.
I know it is painful, but my friend's horse had the drilling surgery and that was 6 months of recovery and he still isn't right. He was pretty bad off before that (he did not fuse, the lower joint had "collapsed"). He's retired now. |
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