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| Why is it that people think they can get 1D/2D horses cheap, that we should just give them away!! I mean, come on, I know the economy is bad but nice horses are still going to come with a price tag |
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Location: Southwest Minnesota | I think selling anything right now is tough. I am trying to sell a 1991 4x4 SUV as a hunting/work vehicle. Priced cheap. I had pictures with the ad and described it as well as I could. I got a message from a guy that wanted to know if it had any problems....I thought to myself, did you read the ad? So I told him, "it's a 1991 with 200,000+ miles on it, yes it has issues". I'm not sure what people expect, but it sure seems they are expecting something for nothing. If the vehicle didn't have problems, the price would be higher...seems like a no-brainer to me.  |
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Location: Arkansas | It is the same thing with selling young horses. They think you should sell them for stud fee or below.
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| Honestly...
I think some people really just don't know any better.
So many people interpret 1D on different levels.
For example-my husband sold his first barrel horse to his cousin for $3,500 dollars.
He is nothing special by any means-and in our minds would NEVER be a 1D horse even at local shows....
Which was why he was a $3,500 horse. You can go show on him and have fun, but you are going to fall into a division.
Well-his cousin feels as if this horse is a 1D horse.
But his cousin shows local, doesn't really go to super shows, and only hauls to a few in the summer.
She has not seen big time first division horses run...so again...I think some people just don't know or understand the difference.
Another thing that doesn't help is when you see the ads on Facebook and even here where they say RODEO seasoned and 1D!!! and they are for sale for $3,500.00 and under....
When you know that there is NO WAY that is a 1D horse!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I read a horse wanted ad this morning that someone wants a HS pole and barrel horse that will win for the daughter without costing a fortune. Ad said if you want $10,000 for your horse don't bother. I'm like WTH? |
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Location: Kansas | Idk.....so why is it that people feel the need to post a horse saying it's 1D material and asking $10k for it when it doesn't even hit 4D!
Or why is it that people are selling their "1D/2D" barrel horses for under $5k.....I'd say thats pretty cheap |
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Location: TEXAS | I saw that one...crazy!!!! |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I have seen someone on craigslist looking for a 1-D high school rodeo horse for $5000 and under. They have an entire paragraph describing what they want. A horse like they want would be $65k easily! I sold a two horse trailer two years ago that was in good shape, new paint, new floor, etc... I advertised it for $2k I had a dozen people email offering $500 etc...and they even got offended when I said no! |
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The Advice Guru
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| I have a hard time with the term 1d, it is all open to interpretation, I also have a hard time with big shows, as a big show doesn't guarantee fast horses.
I like to know what a horse runs on a standard pattern and what arena then I can go look up what fast times there are.
As someone else said 1d potential, every horse has 1d potential, it is in the eye of the beholder. I sware my mini donkey is 1d potential cause boy is he fast running figure 8's in the pasture |
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-03 10:49 AM I have a hard time with the term 1d, it is all open to interpretation, I also have a hard time with big shows, as a big show doesn't guarantee fast horses. I like to know what a horse runs on a standard pattern and what arena then I can go look up what fast times there are. As someone else said 1d potential, every horse has 1d potential, it is in the eye of the beholder. I sware my mini donkey is 1d potential cause boy is he fast running figure 8's in the pasture
The problem with basing off of standard pattern is that we don't really have many of those around here. BUT looking at arena times & being able to compare to results is crucial to me.
Not that I'm in the market. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Because buyer's want to pay next to nothing and get everything |
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Location: ND | because you can if you look..... |
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Location: MD | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-03 10:49 AM
I have a hard time with the term 1d, it is all open to interpretation, I also have a hard time with big shows, as a big show doesn't guarantee fast horses.
I like to know what a horse runs on a standard pattern and what arena then I can go look up what fast times there are.
As someone else said 1d potential, every horse has 1d potential, it is in the eye of the beholder. I sware my mini donkey is 1d potential cause boy is he fast running figure 8's in the pasture
I can honestly say that it has been years since I have ran on a standard pattern. When I say "big show", I'm talking Colonial Natl's, Southern States Triple Crown, Youth/Open Worlds, "Big shows". I will say 1D against tough local competition, 2D placings at Big shows, or something to that effect. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | How do you have your ad written? Is the price clearly stated?
If I'm not negotiable, I usually state a little somthing about the price being firm. Otherwise, I expect some low offers. I don't let it bother me as long as they aren't rude, people are just trying to get the best deal they can. Especially with horses. The definitions of 1D horses can be wildly different.
I know if you mention any problem at all, people will call with low ball offers. I just expect it whenever I'm selling anything. I'll just tell them, "No." and move on. |
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Location: Montana | Shoot, in my area horses are priced very high (IMO) for what you get. But I'm not looking at 1D/2D horse, I'm looking at 2D/3D horses, and it seems hard to find something like that, and something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I don't expect them to be cheap, but I don't want to pay 1D horse price for a 3D horse. Call me picky or out of line if you want. :) |
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Location: NE Texas | CYA Ranch - 2014-01-03 9:44 AM I read a horse wanted ad this morning that someone wants a HS pole and barrel horse that will win for the daughter without costing a fortune. Ad said if you want $10,000 for your horse don't bother. I'm like WTH?
I saw this ad....and know where there is a horse that fits the bill that is not advertised. She does have one issue, but it is VERY manageable for anyone who is willing to follow direction. I wouldn't even call it maintenance.
Bargains are out there if someone is willing to wait to find them. Don't be offended if someone low balls you on your horse.....you never know when someone will say yes or what situation they are in.
I've sold young horses that are running in the middle of the 2D for less than $10K to people who I know would go on with them and finish them the right way. Have made some of my bestfriends through these horse sales.
Bottom line is a horse is worth what the owner will take.....and sometimes they are willing to take alot less if a buyer has cash in hand.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | IMO, the classification of 1D/2D is very subjective......Way too many "sellers" place in the 1D in a class or two of 30 entries and then advertise the horse as "1D"...... Additionally, some buyers look to see how long the horse has been advertised. If it is 6-8-9 months, they start to wonder what isn't being disclosed. |
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Location: Texas | The only standard pattern I see all year is the ANHA shootout in Waco, which is also a "big show" with 500-600+ entries. So I get double whammied with trying to get the horse to run at it's only standard pattern of the year, in addition to the fact that its a big building with solid walls and music blaring. To me anything faster than a 17.9 there is nothing to stick your nose up at. the best I have done there is a 17.50, that same horse the year before ran a 17.20 there with her previous owner. |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | NJJ - 2014-01-03 4:19 PM
IMO, the classification of 1D/2D is very subjective......Way too many "sellers" place in the 1D in a class or two of 30 entries and then advertise the horse as "1D"...... Additionally, some buyers look to see how long the horse has been advertised. If it is 6-8-9 months, they start to wonder what isn't being disclosed.
I have been afraid of that with my gelding. I pulled him off the internet because I just gave up trying to sell him. I wouldn't even get a spam email. I had a list of his 1D and 2D placings and the # of runners at each of those races.. stated he was a cribber.. and a solid paint…with that cursed "impressive" 5 generations back on his papers. I think the combo of the three just turned everyone off. Even with a record a mile long. So oh well, I will keep on enjoying him until the right person comes along. |
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Location: South Georgia Good o'l USA | I wish I had an answer but people continue to amaze me.. |
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