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Where did our responsibility go??

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Calangelo
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-01-30 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??


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run n rate - 2014-01-30 12:23 PM I suck at selling a horse, LOL!!! Everything I've ever owned is buried in my pasture. 2 ponies and 2 horses are the only things I've thrown a leg over that aren't with me still, the 2 ponies got sold when I was 5 and 10 and had outgrown them, the one gelding my dad "gave" to me for my 16th birthday, he sold him out from under me and the mare wasn't actually mine, belonged to my fiancé I bawled like a baby for all of them. Course I bawl like a baby when it comes to crossing the Rainbow bridge too but I'd rather make that walk with them than the one to someone else's trailer. Having said that I did loan out my HS rodeo mare to a young girl for Jr Rodeo for a bit when I was extremely busy with work and wasn't getting to ride like I needed to, she was an older mare by then and needed the extra riding to keep her in shape and feeling good, she just did better that way. I also leased out my bay mare to a HS girl for HS rodeo years later, she was a tough mare and I felt could help the girl out in that situation. My problem is I fall in love with my animals and for years with caring for my mom they were the reason I got out of bed in the morning, didn't matter stress was eating my health away, the horses needed to be fed, watered, groomed, ridden. They were my sanity, they were my "tomorrow" and more importantly they had a big strong neck to hold on to and cry into if need be with no expectations other than loving them back. Good trade in my opinion. I will sell mine before I can't feed them, they won't suffer for that ever regardless, but I do own a gelding that is 13 this year with some wear and tear on him, a mare that fractured her patella 3 years ago that is sound and running again but I know too those kind of injuries mount up and take years off in the long run but I also aknowledge that injury was my mistake. When push comes to shove I will not pass that injury on to someone else to deal with, I own that. I own that she and I spent some really bad nights together and some really great days together also coming back from that, its what finally forged us into a team. sucks it happened THAT way, but it did and I'm better for it, I owe it to her to be responsible for her to the end. Both of them ran me across the grass at Pendleton safely , strongly and fearlessly, they brought a little girls dream to life 40 some years later,and I dont' take that lightly. I also have another mare that has health issues, not exactly sure yet, HeadShakers syndrome, EPM, but God put us in each others path and I'm bound to find out why. I have friends who have that ability to be a business person about their horses and I respect that, they run tougher than I do most of the time because of it.

Wow, we could be twins!  I had the same thing happen to me with my pony and a horse when I was about 13, dad gave them away without telling me b/c my parents couldn't afford them anymore.  Broke my heart, I had the pony from when I was 4 years old. I HATE that do not know what happend to them, especially the pony, she was the best and so sweet.  Anyway, that would be why once something comes on the property it's not going anywhere!  I have a 25 year old that was trained or barrels, but he is a head shaker and I found that out when he was 5.  We tried all kinds of things, masks, meds, etc., and nothing helped. I could never dump him b/c he wasn't useful, even as a youngster.  So, he's still with me now.  Anyway, I can appreciate people who don't  hold on to them like I do in order to be competitive and reach their goals.  But, for me, if was dump a horse that's useful to no one so that I could meet my goals, I couldn't do it and didn't.  
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-01-30 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??



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IM kind of on both sides of this issue. I hate to see those old 28 year old geldings on here for sale. Breaks my heart. But I have been in the position of having to sell a useful horse in order to purchase my next one.

I currently have one that I rescued without thinking that I would have him forever. He is decently young (11) but I have no "use" for him other than to feed him. I fixed him up but have no interest in pursuing anything further. I did not think it through, I just could NOT leave him to starve to death. We have a small place and therefore I need to find him a home. But mine is free to an approved home.
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kakbarrelracer
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-31 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??



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Actually I thought it was kind of a new idea that we are supposed to keep a horse until it dies.  Which I don't understand that way of thinking.  We have to initially get the horse from somewhere.  The old timers I've heard of thought nothing of using a horse until it was no longer useful and then selling it at the local sale.  Most didn't have the money to keep something around that wasn't useful.  
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HammerTurns
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-01-31 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??



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My mare is only ten but if for some reason I was forced to retire her now, provided she was healthy and wasn't in pain....I'd keep her. Even if it was just so my little cousins could brush her or sit on her back.

Yes, that'd put me in a tough spot to find a horse I can compete on, but my mare has been through at least four owners and spent enough time at auction/sale barns that she deserves to have 'her' people & the one horse she likes around.
I'd find a way to get myself on a new competition horse, but my mare isn't going anywhere.

Edited by HammerTurns 2014-01-31 6:43 AM
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-01-31 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??


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I have no problem with selling sound middle aged horses. As I know people with kids have to learn somewhere.

I have a problem with people selling their old crippled horses. I have seen many kids ride horses with knees size of softballs, horses that are so arthritic it affects their gait. Then the kids are on the horse all day running the horse everywhere, to me this is animal abuse.

I have one retiree who will be with me for life. The horses that I have sold have the invitation to come back and retire in my pasture.
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DLV
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2014-01-31 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??



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I agree with you on this one! YOU owe it to your horse to let them live out there days if they have done their job BUT if the horse can still be used to help another younger kid learn to ride, I think that it's good for both the horse and the younger kids BUT I think when a horse is that old you should keep tabs on them so they aren't just disposed of when the kid is done etc. I know many people who lease out their horse or let people they know and trust use them. I see no problem with that. IMO you owe the horse that much. To me, I LOVE these types of horses, they get plenty of use at my place, they are priceless to give lessons on and use for anyone to ride. :)
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whirlaway
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2014-01-31 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Where did our responsibility go??


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mine stay with me untill God takes them, the ones that have earned a retirement get it. the ones i have in the pasture right now owe me nothing. i will continue to care for them untill the end i owe them that. without them i wouldnt be where i am now. 
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