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| I see this often and it makes no sense to me. Thus the post.
"Appendix" tells a person absolutely NOTHING about how a horse is bred or made.
All "appendix" means is that at some point in the past, a relative was bred to a TB and the papers weren't advanced (usually because no ROMs were earned, but occasionally due to laziness).
I have 2 appendix registered horses right now. Both should advance their papers. I have 1 with advanced papers now, she is not appendix. I have another who is over 5/8 tb but she is not appendix and never has been.
Also, while some TBs have a "look", many do not. Sprinting TBs look like high quality QHs. We have 3 TB mares at the house right now. Only one doesn't look like a QH and that is because she is 17+ hands and when she stands on the scale at the vet it just says "over"...she's massive.
Sorry for being long winded...but...Appendix is not a body type, nor is it a good or even decent indicator of pedigree. |
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| I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire
Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered?
But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:35 AM I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire
Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered?
But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB.
Are you sure the sire wasnt appendex from his dam? |
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| lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:35 AM
I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered? But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB.
Are you sure extra fire has regular papers, as I have a grand baby of him, just looked at her papers, on her papers he has an x which means appendix
Just called Aqha extra fire has not been advanced, nor can he be advanced as per aqha
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| lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:35 AM
I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered? But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB.
Her dam does not have regular registry papers. Her dam's sire is by a TB. His papers weren't advanced. He produced appendix foals (unless some earned their ROMs and were advanced). Ready Go Misty was not advanced. As a result, all of her foals are appendix also. |
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| kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:44 AM
lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:35 AM
I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered? But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB.
If the dam has not been advanced, and the sire has not how did the foal get papers? |
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| My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-04-04 11:47 AM
kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:44 AM
lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:35 AM
I don't completely understand the 'advancing,' and future generations of the 'advanced' horse.
I had a mare: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/easy+go+misty in foal to the sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/extra+fire Both had regular papers. The resulting filly was sent yellow papers when registered? But I do understand that 'appendix' doesn't have to do with conformation. I rode a 2yo TB colt that was a prime hunky dude, looked just like Bully Bullion, seriously. I have a white papered QH mare who looks very TB.
If the dam has not been advanced, and the sire has not how did the foal get papers?
I misread the post. Ready Go Misty was appendix. Easy Go Misty has regular registry papers.
Extra Fire is appendix. |
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| lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:49 AM
My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason.
ROM alone won't advance one. You have to send paperwork in, + fee, + vet letter saying they have been inspected and aren't a parrot mouth or cryptorchid. |
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Location: Kansas | kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:55 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:49 AM My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason. ROM alone won't advance one. You have to send paperwork in, + fee, + vet letter saying they have been inspected and aren't a parrot mouth or cryptorchid.
So that is why my newest horse still has appendix papers? He has his ROM from the track. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+red+streaker
This really doesn't matter to me because he's a gelding, but I like to learn new stuff. |
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| After all these years - I wonder if I researched the wrong name or something? I haven't looked since that filly was registered, but I could swear there wasn't an 'X' registration number. My bad, somehow.
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| rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-04 11:58 AM
kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:55 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:49 AM My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason. ROM alone won't advance one. You have to send paperwork in, + fee, + vet letter saying they have been inspected and aren't a parrot mouth or cryptorchid.
Yes. It is $50 to advance them + if your vet charges for the letter (mine never have).
This mare is regular registry http://allbreedpedigree.com/olivias+lady |
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| kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:55 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:49 AM My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason. ROM alone won't advance one. You have to send paperwork in, + fee, + vet letter saying they have been inspected and aren't a parrot mouth or cryptorchid.
Her papers were advanced before I bought her. She came with white papers and in foal to Extra Fire. |
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| kuhlmann - 2014-04-04 11:55 AM
lonely va barrelxr - 2014-04-04 11:49 AM
My mare ROM'd on the track. I thought Extra Fire was white papered, but if he was still yellow then that's where it came from. But I thought he'd ROM'd also for some reason.
ROM alone won't advance one. You have to send paperwork in, + fee, + vet letter saying they have been inspected and aren't a parrot mouth or cryptorchid.
I ran into this problem with my mare. Bought her as a yearling with appendix papers and never thought to research her dam until 6 years later when I wanted to breed her. By then her dam had died. The last owner's vet never looked at her mouth so I couldn't get a statement from him. I thought about tracking down previous owners, but just decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
And I agree with you on the appendix statement. My mare is so far from the traditional TB look. Honestly, she could double as a plow horse! I had a true appendix mare with advanced papers, and she was big but still built like a QH. |
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His sire def stamped him with his head. |
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