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| For the first time this past weekend my gelding bled after I ran him on Saturday; had a shot of Lasix given to him yesterday morning and he didn't bleed, but I really don't want to have to give him that all the time; picked up some OxyBleed for him at the show, is there anything else out there that is a good feed thru product? |
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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Equidites bleed block worked for my gelding, it's the same thing as oxygens bleeder stop. I prefer THE pulmonez because my guy runs harder and recovers faster on it. He does not have to have lasix on any of it either. |
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| missroselee - 2014-04-07 9:28 AM Equidites bleed block worked for my gelding, it's the same thing as oxygens bleeder stop. I prefer THE pulmonez because my guy runs harder and recovers faster on it. He does not have to have lasix on any of it either.
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Keep in mind if your horse truly bled from the lungs, he now needs time off to heal. At least a month, I give mine six weeks. If you use the stuff from THE for bleeders during the time off it will really help. |
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 Am I really the Weirdo?
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Location: Kansas | Barnmom - 2014-04-07 9:44 AM Keep in mind if your horse truly bled from the lungs, he now needs time off to heal. At least a month, I give mine six weeks. If you use the stuff from THE for bleeders during the time off it will really help.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I don't know that six weeks is necessary, I think I have given 3-4 weeks off before running in the past. After about a week, I started riding again but LOW INTENSITY.....aka walking and trotting in intervals to slowly recondition the lungs. |
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-07 10:13 AM Barnmom - 2014-04-07 9:44 AM Keep in mind if your horse truly bled from the lungs, he now needs time off to heal. At least a month, I give mine six weeks. If you use the stuff from THE for bleeders during the time off it will really help. You took the words right out of my mouth. I don't know that six weeks is necessary, I think I have given 3-4 weeks off before running in the past. After about a week, I started riding again but LOW INTENSITY.....aka walking and trotting in intervals to slowly recondition the lungs.
Six weeks is for my racehorses, probabaly not necessary for a barrel horse unless you are running in huge pens with really deep ground.
If a racing official sees blood coming from your horses nose after a race 45 days is mandatory the first time it happens, I think it is 90 days the second time. |
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Am I really the Weirdo?
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Location: Kansas | Barnmom - 2014-04-07 10:23 AM rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-07 10:13 AM Barnmom - 2014-04-07 9:44 AM Keep in mind if your horse truly bled from the lungs, he now needs time off to heal. At least a month, I give mine six weeks. If you use the stuff from THE for bleeders during the time off it will really help. You took the words right out of my mouth. I don't know that six weeks is necessary, I think I have given 3-4 weeks off before running in the past. After about a week, I started riding again but LOW INTENSITY.....aka walking and trotting in intervals to slowly recondition the lungs.
If a racing official sees blood coming from your horses nose after a race 45 days is mandatory the first time it happens, I think it is 90 days the second time.
Ok that makes sense. I really think the 1st time Chance bled, we gave him 3 weeks between runs and the first run back I just let him cruise. I think the second time he was off from July 25th until August 10th which was just over two weeks and I'm really not sure why my vet OK'd bringing him back that soon, though I know we scoped him July 26th so we must not have found anything in his lungs. I ran him on lasix the next month but slowly cut the dose back before stopping it entirely. His two bleeds were caused by environmental factors from what we can gather because he runs in a lot of big outdoor pens during the summer and hasn't bled in two years. KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!!
I have one with some other respiratory issues and I just try like heck not to run him in the super huge pens with belly deep ground - he doesn't excel in them anyway. Bonus Race Finals is probably the biggest pen he runs in all year. |
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| Those that have used or do use THE's Pulmoneeze for bleeders, how soon do you notice results once you started them on it? I'm debating to try it since they have the 20% off this month
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | I also think racehorses have a harder time healing thier lungs than a barrel horse. Most barrel horses get turned out at least a little bit during the time off and having thier head down grazing plus the fresh air really makes a huge difference.
One year we had our racehorses in a barn where the stalls right behind ours were not cleaned well at all. Not sure the help ever took the pee out, just dumped more shavings on top. The trainer was never there to supervise and the barn smelled awful. Super hard to keep your horses healthy in those conditions and lungs take way longer to heal if they do at all. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Every horse is different. Some need three weeks, some six, some eight. Mine needed several months but his bleeding went unnoticed because he never bled externally. That and I'm paranoid. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I want to add that if a horse just bled recently, then putting them on anything without treating the bleed is pointless. It's great to start meds immediately but make sure you are treating the bleed at the same time. Mostly rest and antibiotics. |
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| luckly all three of my geldings are turned out the minute they are done eating every day, I h ave already started in on the "Immunize" by OxyGen and the OxyBleed |
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| Just a word of caution, just because you don't see the blood does not mean they are not bleeding. After 2 months of rest and a round of antibiotics I put my bleeder on the products mentioned here. I did not see any bleeding but had him scoped after 2 months back running and he was still bleeding. I run him on 2 Cc's of lasix, given IM 2 hours out and paste with electrolytes after a run. Scopes show no bleeding.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-04-07 12:06 PM
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