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| Long story short my gelding went lame all of a sudden. Vet localized the pain to something below the coffin joint. Never became 100% sound with coffin/pastern blocks. X-rayed; found bone spurs, but they were not causing the pain. Ultrasounded; found suspicion of soft tissue injury. Scheduled to get an MRI done at A&M to see if there is any other issue. BUT! Today he took it upon himself to run laps around my pasture bucking and snorting and trotting and everything under the sun, and I never saw him limp once. WHAAT? This makes me not want to spend the money on an MRI! What do i do?!? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Check to see if the bars have broken loose from the frog on one or both of the front feet.. When this happens the heels will over-expand when they are worked, but will not when they are left alone in a pasture to just be themselves. |
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| I will check when I get home. I feel like the vet might of noticed this? |
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| komet. - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM
Check to see if the bars have broken loose from the frog on one or both of the front feet.. When this happens the heels will over-expand when they are worked, but will not when they are left alone in a pasture to just be themselves.
I have one like this now. How long till it self corrects? |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | achildres - 2014-04-21 10:44 AM Long story short my gelding went lame all of a sudden. Vet localized the pain to something below the coffin joint. Never became 100% sound with coffin/pastern blocks. X-rayed; found bone spurs, but they were not causing the pain. Ultrasounded; found suspicion of soft tissue injury. Scheduled to get an MRI done at A&M to see if there is any other issue. BUT! Today he took it upon himself to run laps around my pasture bucking and snorting and trotting and everything under the sun, and I never saw him limp once. WHAAT? This makes me not want to spend the money on an MRI! What do i do?!?
I am not sure how you can say the spurs are not causing pain- can you explain? The foot being high motion, I very well suspect that at the very least there may be some soft tissue irritation over the spurs.
I also know that horses running and playing is not an indicator of soundness in performance so I personally would go ahead with the MRI if that is what your vet suggested. Or at least keep it in the back of your mind when or if he limps again. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bigfoot - 2014-04-21 1:24 PM
komet. - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM
Check to see if the bars have broken loose from the frog on one or both of the front feet.. When this happens the heels will over-expand when they are worked, but will not when they are left alone in a pasture to just be themselves.
I have one like this now. How long till it self corrects?
It will never.... This type of foot needs heel clips to keep it from over-expanding... Note: on most clips you don't beat them against the wall... On these you pick up the other foot to make it expand to where it should be and hit the clip until it is against the heel.. |
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Location: Iowa | This happened to me. 1st vet said there was "light spots" on her DDFT. Gave her 8 months off, when that wasn't it, i was told it was navicular, nope, wait then it was caudel heel. Tried numerous things to try to alleviate that, along with more time off. When that wasn't it, then it was her annular ligament constricting. More time off. When nothing we did seemed to help that, then we did surgery on the annular ligament. Stall rest for 8 weeks, with 2X per day hand walking sessions starting at 5 monutes a piece, then working up to 15 minutes 2x per day. Did injections to prevent any adhesions.................was that it? Nope................after that pretty much gave up until i saw her doing hot laps on a fairly regular basis. Took her for another opinion, and what did we find? arthritis in her neck, we injected those facets that were affected, and after nearly 3 years we are running barrels again:).
Adding..........we blocked everything we could block below the knee more than once, and even blocked, she trotted off lame. I really kick myself for not picking up on that.
I hope you have better luck, and they find answers for you!! |
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| Had one that did that. Couldn't pinpoint the source of pain. Just recently took another visit back to the vet and he said it rest made the horse better than it was a soft tissue injury. |
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| TurnLane - 2014-04-21 2:16 PM
achildres - 2014-04-21 10:44 AM Long story short my gelding went lame all of a sudden. Vet localized the pain to something below the coffin joint. Never became 100% sound with coffin/pastern blocks. X-rayed; found bone spurs, but they were not causing the pain. Ultrasounded; found suspicion of soft tissue injury. Scheduled to get an MRI done at A&M to see if there is any other issue. BUT! Today he took it upon himself to run laps around my pasture bucking and snorting and trotting and everything under the sun, and I never saw him limp once. WHAAT? This makes me not want to spend the money on an MRI! What do i do?!?
I am not sure how you can say the spurs are not causing pain- can you explain? The foot being high motion, I very well suspect that at the very least there may be some soft tissue irritation over the spurs.Â
I also know that horses running and playing is not an indicator of soundness in performance so I personally would go ahead with the MRI if that is what your vet suggested. Or at least keep it in the back of your mind when or if he limps again. Â
Yeah I thought they would cause the pain as well; so this is kinda how it went down. We blocked the coffin joint on a Friday, and it made him about 80% more sound. So we x rayed and found the spurs. We wanted to block the pastern joint (where the spurs are) but we waited until monday morning so the previous block could wear off. Come monday morning, we block the pastern and it didnt help whatsoever. The vet thought maybe he missed the joint, so he tried again the next day, and still didn't help whatsoever. So based off of that we concluded they are not the result of the pain, and then went ahead and ultrasounded. All i know is he is a confusing spoiled diva LOL |
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| iabarlrcer - 2014-04-21 2:40 PM
This happened to me. 1st vet said there was "light spots" on her DDFT. Gave her 8 months off, when that wasn't it, i was told it was navicular, nope, wait then it was caudel heel. Tried numerous things to try to alleviate that, along with more time off. When that wasn't it, then it was her annular ligament constricting. More time off. When nothing we did seemed to help that, then we did surgery on the annular ligament. Stall rest for 8 weeks, with 2X per day hand walking sessions starting at 5 monutes a piece, then working up to 15 minutes 2x per day. Did injections to prevent any adhesions.................was that it? Nope................after that pretty much gave up until i saw her doing hot laps on a fairly regular basis. Took her for another opinion, and what did we find?  arthritis in her neck, we injected those facets that were affected, and after nearly 3 years we are running barrels again:). Â
Adding..........we blocked everything we could block below the knee more than once, and even blocked, she trotted off lame. I really kick myself for not picking up on that.
I hope you have better luck, and they find answers for you!!
Holy macaroni I'm so sorry!! |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Why is your vet doing joint blocks first instead of nerve blocks? If you have a soft tissue injury (suspensory or other tendon) you would need a nerve block to isolate that. Usually if they nerve blocks don't find aything, then they go to the joint blocks. If you even think you might have a soft tissue injury, there is no way I would be letting my horse out to run, taking a chance of making it worse. |
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-04-21 2:51 PM
Why is your vet doing joint blocks first instead of nerve blocks? Â If you have a soft tissue injury (suspensory or other tendon) you would need a nerve block to isolate that. Â Usually if they nerve blocks don't find aything, then they go to the joint blocks. Â If you even think you might have a soft tissue injury, there is no way I would be letting my horse out to run, taking a chance of making it worse. Â Â
My mistake, he is doing nerve blocks, i didn't know there was a difference. And he took it upon himself to start running, and he is currently coughing I don't want him locked in the stall to make the respiratory issues worse. He hates being stalled |
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