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gogetemtiger
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-04-21 8:48 AM
Subject: The candids of owning a stallion; things people don't talk about


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Stallion owners: Leak it out! Tell us the good, the bad, the ugly, the nasty, and the plain weird of being around a stallion daily.
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FLITASTIC
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Posted 2014-04-21 8:56 AM
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Just be careful of them. Especially when it's that time of the month. Even the nicest stallions have killed people.
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equussynergy
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FLITASTIC - 2014-04-21 7:56 AM Just be careful of them. Especially when it's that time of the month. Even the nicest stallions have killed people.
I hate it when I hear this. Always watch a Stallion but honestly your reproductive cycles don't have a dang thing to do with how they act. I've never had a stallion act different toward me while on my period.  Now If you've been brushing the tail of a mare in heat you might want to wash up or your stallion may be more intested in you than he should be.

http://www.thehorse.com/articles/14883/horse-behavior-and-womens-reproductive-cycles
 

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Canchasr1
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Posted 2014-04-21 9:09 AM
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Mine is more like a gelding than a stallion most of the time.

As long as there are no mares on the place, he runs with the geldings and baby sits the yearlings. One mare, even one not in season, around the barn and he is Mr. Protective and doesnt like the other horses. 
He is 26, still fertile and has exceptional manners. He was shown and hauled extensively so I think that has alot to do with his disposition.

He is also the Mr Picky when it comes to his hay. He will only eat alfalfa from Buckeye, Az. That is where he was raised and lived until last year and he KNOWS the difference.
 
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Posted 2014-04-21 9:10 AM
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equussynergy - 2014-04-21 9:02 AM

FLITASTIC - 2014-04-21 7:56 AM Just be careful of them. Especially when it's that time of the month. Even the nicest stallions have killed people.
I hate it when I hear this. Always watch a Stallion but honestly your reproductive cycles don't have a dang thing to do with how they act. I've never had a stallion act different toward me while on my period.  Now If you've been brushing the tail of a mare in heat you might want to wash up or your stallion may be more intested in you than he should be.

http://www.thehorse.com/articles/14883/horse-behavior-and-womens-reproductive-cycles
 

I agree. One of the barns I rode at as a teenager had 3 studs at one point all stalled in the same barn and in the case of the old man right next to the mares. The young ones would toe the line a bit with unfamiliar handlers, but all of them were handled with a firm consistent hand very single time and the boundary lines were set very firmly in front of them from the beginning. Never had an issue. I wish they were still breeding, I'd love to pick up one as a prospect, unbelievable dispositions and easy to work with.
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Posted 2014-04-21 9:14 AM
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Boy, I wish I could tell you something, but El Scorcho is a gentleman. A lady brought a mare to me this weekend to breed to him and stayed 2 days because the mare is her baby and she was scared to leave her someplace...worried how the stallion would act toward the mare etc. Well, I caught him out of the pasture of mares with just a lead rope. I placed a halter on him and walked out of a pasture of mares to this lady's mare....not one peep from him. Just a plain lead rope...no stallion chain. The lady was amazed at his personality. She finally allowed me to leave the stallion in a paddock with her mare because he was so good. I've seen some rough boys, but not Scorcho. I can take him out of a pasture full of in heat mares and ride him without much more than a nicker or two. I will never find another stud as good as him.
Now, I've had some boys that I couldn't get their nuts off fast enough.......soooooo. 
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-04-21 9:40 AM
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I will never not watch a stallion. I have relaxed a ton with Zan, especially since he started breeding. That may sound weird, but he knows where that will take place and where it won't. He was tied not 15' from a squat-n-pee in heat mare this weekend at a show and didn't even talk to her. Gave her one look and that was it. Never acted up in any sort of way when I was brushing, tacking or riding to and from the trailer. But I still watch for any arch in the neck, ears pointing together, or any talking. I also always keep cognizant of where his mouth is. Biting is the usual accident that happens with a stallion. I've seen them do that if a person walks under their neck or too close in front at the wrong time. Now what constitutes the wrong time is why you always have to watch - they won't necessarily broadcast bad behavior or illicit thoughts before acting out. At shows during warm up you have to stay aware of everyone in front, in back, and beside you. You can't stand with your buddies as easily with a stallion. I disagree that you have more legal responsibility as the stallion owner, but you have to be responsible for your stallions sake. Don't put him in a situation he's not ready to handle. I kept Zan at least 25' from any other horse for his first few seasons, gradually closing the distance when I knew the other horse was a gelding. Now I can stand closer to a mare than that and know he won't twig. But that ability came from many years of lessoning that he was not to look or talk, and in easy stages. It doesn't come free or easy usually.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2014-04-21 10:34 AM
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I have always enjoyed our stallions I worked with .. as long as you realize they are stallions and be responsible.
They are usually very willing to learn if you have their mind and respect..  they are loving and loyal and usually talented ..
it seems everything is magnitude times ten.lol with their talent and have a sense of pride..you gain their respect you dont force it.. but there are limits that they cant cross.. be direct and always persistant with those limitations.

 
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-04-21 12:09 PM
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The good is when you haul your stallion to a packed indoor arena and people come up to you to check for vicks in his nose and can't believe he is acting as well as he is :) Proper training goes a long ways and makes you feel good when it is paying off.
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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-04-21 12:21 PM
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We foster a former stud.  Call St. Bar.  He was used as a stud a year or two, then sent to a stud farm to be taught how to use a fantom.  He took a bite out of the fantom. They sent him home!  He lost his cajones! Altho he's been gelded a number of years and it took a no nonense gelding bigger than him to pasture with him, I never ever forget he's a former  stud. I don't trust him any farther than I could throw him!   
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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-21 12:26 PM
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Lobo - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM We foster a former stud.  Call St. Bar.  He was used as a stud a year or two, then sent to a stud farm to be taught how to use a fantom.  He took a bite out of the fantom. They sent him home!  He lost his cajones! Altho he's been gelded a number of years and it took a no nonense gelding bigger than him to pasture with him, I never ever forget he's a former  stud. I don't trust him any farther than I could throw him!   

Dang What a pedigree! Pics? 
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-04-21 12:52 PM
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I have a stallion. He is 6 this year and just bred his first mare. I've had him since he was a weanling. This horse is exceptionally well behaved and people don't know he's a stallion unless they look under him. He knows that if he is in his working halter there is not a peep that is to come from him. Now, his leather halter with a chain is what is used for breeding/teasing and then it is acceptable to talk. That being said, I've always set the boundaries for him. My daughter rides him in the round pen with me looking on. I've taught lessons on him. I've always kept him socialized and I strongly feel because he has been treated like a gelding he acts like one. I used to manage a boarding facility with 90+ horses and he was in a pipe corral touching noses with geldings and there were never any problems. 
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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-04-21 1:36 PM
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equussynergy - 2014-04-21 12:26 PM
Lobo - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM We foster a former stud.  Call St. Bar.  He was used as a stud a year or two, then sent to a stud farm to be taught how to use a fantom.  He took a bite out of the fantom. They sent him home!  He lost his cajones! Altho he's been gelded a number of years and it took a no nonense gelding bigger than him to pasture with him, I never ever forget he's a former  stud. I don't trust him any farther than I could throw him!   
Dang What a pedigree! Pics? 
Don't have any pic's of Camp as he was called.  He just is 15H and sorrel.  Pretty stucker. He's broke to ride and knows barrels. 

But if you wantta drool, check out Mucho Mucho Bars.LOL  We still have him, as a gelding.  He started walking on his back leg's as a not quite 2 stud.  He lost them too.  LOL  We lost his dam last year at the age of 28.  I guess we thought she'd live forever.  
WTA...Call To Honor was an SOB as a stud.  He'd go after ya' with a smile on his face! 


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Canchasr1
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Posted 2014-04-21 1:45 PM
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equussynergy - 2014-04-21 12:26 PM
Lobo - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM We foster a former stud.  Call St. Bar.  He was used as a stud a year or two, then sent to a stud farm to be taught how to use a fantom.  He took a bite out of the fantom. They sent him home!  He lost his cajones! Altho he's been gelded a number of years and it took a no nonense gelding bigger than him to pasture with him, I never ever forget he's a former  stud. I don't trust him any farther than I could throw him!   
Dang What a pedigree! Pics? 

Is this the St Bar son of Three bars???
He was foaled in the 60s....


 
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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-04-21 2:08 PM
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The thing that can really wear on a persons stress and nerves is its always your fault.

No matter what no exceptions.
You can have the best mannered best trained stud out there, and they could have the sourist meanest squieling kicking mare out there that needs a come to Jesus type meeting. It is YOUR studs fault shes begaving that way period end of question. Not fair, but reality. And if god forbid there is a situation, you will be hung from the highest tree regardless of who truly is at fault because you are the one with a stud.

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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-04-21 3:18 PM
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Canchasr1 - 2014-04-21 1:45 PM
equussynergy - 2014-04-21 12:26 PM
Lobo - 2014-04-21 11:21 AM We foster a former stud.  Call St. Bar.  He was used as a stud a year or two, then sent to a stud farm to be taught how to use a fantom.  He took a bite out of the fantom. They sent him home!  He lost his cajones! Altho he's been gelded a number of years and it took a no nonense gelding bigger than him to pasture with him, I never ever forget he's a former  stud. I don't trust him any farther than I could throw him!   
Dang What a pedigree! Pics? 
Is this the St Bar son of Three bars???

He was foaled in the 60s....



 

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/call+st+bar\
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is Call To Honor out of Sainted Doll who is by St Bar.  St. Bar is by Three Bars.  
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Posted 2014-04-21 3:31 PM
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 We bought our stallion when he was eight and the previous owners did a FABULOUS job on his ground manners. We can not praise them enough.   Their 13 year old daughter ran him at open barrel races and amateur rodeos and the husband  team roped on him. So he learned shortly when and where was the place for breeding!   I can collect our stallion myself when need be - I'm 5'3'' and he is very respectful.

I dont care who will own up to it or not but it is a LOT of stress and responsibility of owning a stallion.  The little things such as going on a week vacation -- finding someone who you TRUST can be responsible enough to feed/handle the stallion while you are gone.   No matter how well behaved they are, they are STILL stallions - and 1200-1400lb animals with a mind of their own.  As good of training as they have - with someone inexperienced etc, anything can happen.  So that is my biggest concern. 

This is our 2nd year standing our stallion and there is so much joy I cant say enough how happy he makes us with these wonderful babies he is giving us!  Between collections my hubby works, doctors and moves cattle off him.  He knows when the rope halter goes on - hes NOT breeding.  Good training goes a long way! We were very blessed that ours had such a GREAT foundation on him before we bought him.  Sure made it easy.

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Runnin < C > - 2014-04-21 3:31 PM  We bought our stallion when he was eight and the previous owners did a FABULOUS job on his ground manners. We can not praise them enough.   Their 13 year old daughter ran him at open barrel races and amateur rodeos and the husband  team roped on him. So he learned shortly when and where was the place for breeding!   I can collect our stallion myself when need be - I'm 5'3'' and he is very respectful.



I dont care who will own up to it or not but it is a LOT of stress and responsibility of owning a stallion.  The little things such as going on a week vacation -- finding someone who you TRUST can be responsible enough to feed/handle the stallion while you are gone.   No matter how well behaved they are, they are STILL stallions - and 1200-1400lb animals with a mind of their own.  As good of training as they have - with someone inexperienced etc, anything can happen.  So that is my biggest concern. 



This is our 2nd year standing our stallion and there is so much joy I cant say enough how happy he makes us with these wonderful babies he is giving us!  Between collections my hubby works, doctors and moves cattle off him.  He knows when the rope halter goes on - hes NOT breeding.  Good training goes a long way! We were very blessed that ours had such a GREAT foundation on him before we bought him.  Sure made it easy.

 That is no problemo for me lol. He goes in the pasture with the ladies and is as happy as a shat house rat. I have more trouble getting someone to watch my chihuahua's lol.
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Posted 2014-04-21 3:41 PM
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Runnin < C > - 2014-04-21 3:31 PM  We bought our stallion when he was eight and the previous owners did a FABULOUS job on his ground manners. We can not praise them enough.   Their 13 year old daughter ran him at open barrel races and amateur rodeos and the husband  team roped on him. So he learned shortly when and where was the place for breeding!   I can collect our stallion myself when need be - I'm 5'3'' and he is very respectful.



I dont care who will own up to it or not but it is a LOT of stress and responsibility of owning a stallion.  The little things such as going on a week vacation -- finding someone who you TRUST can be responsible enough to feed/handle the stallion while you are gone.   No matter how well behaved they are, they are STILL stallions - and 1200-1400lb animals with a mind of their own.  As good of training as they have - with someone inexperienced etc, anything can happen.  So that is my biggest concern. 



This is our 2nd year standing our stallion and there is so much joy I cant say enough how happy he makes us with these wonderful babies he is giving us!  Between collections my hubby works, doctors and moves cattle off him.  He knows when the rope halter goes on - hes NOT breeding.  Good training goes a long way! We were very blessed that ours had such a GREAT foundation on him before we bought him.  Sure made it easy.
 That is no problemo for me lol. He goes in the pasture with the ladies and is as happy as a shat house rat. I have more trouble getting someone to watch my chihuahua's lol.

 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!   Well in that case ... Sounds like you have a VERY good boy! :)
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Posted 2014-04-21 3:44 PM
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Runnin < C > - 2014-04-21 3:31 PM  We bought our stallion when he was eight and the previous owners did a FABULOUS job on his ground manners. We can not praise them enough.   Their 13 year old daughter ran him at open barrel races and amateur rodeos and the husband  team roped on him. So he learned shortly when and where was the place for breeding!   I can collect our stallion myself when need be - I'm 5'3'' and he is very respectful.



I dont care who will own up to it or not but it is a LOT of stress and responsibility of owning a stallion.  The little things such as going on a week vacation -- finding someone who you TRUST can be responsible enough to feed/handle the stallion while you are gone.   No matter how well behaved they are, they are STILL stallions - and 1200-1400lb animals with a mind of their own.  As good of training as they have - with someone inexperienced etc, anything can happen.  So that is my biggest concern. 



This is our 2nd year standing our stallion and there is so much joy I cant say enough how happy he makes us with these wonderful babies he is giving us!  Between collections my hubby works, doctors and moves cattle off him.  He knows when the rope halter goes on - hes NOT breeding.  Good training goes a long way! We were very blessed that ours had such a GREAT foundation on him before we bought him.  Sure made it easy.
 That is no problemo for me lol. He goes in the pasture with the ladies and is as happy as a shat house rat. I have more trouble getting someone to watch my chihuahua's lol.
 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!   Well in that case ... Sounds like you have a VERY good boy! :)




I'll agree that it takes A LOT of work to get one good.  My 3yo DFP colt is probably going to wear me out getting him seasoned and trained up as good as Zan.  Unless some crazy event happens to change my mind, I will not be trying for anymore show stallions.  If it's a boy or red, it's for sale!! 
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