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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | I love my horse. But right now I would like to put a bullet in his head because he won't WALK! He'll prance, he'll jig--I can't handle it. I've tried speeding up and loping uncomfortable circle when he picks up his pace, I've tried applying pressure on the reins until he walks and then releasing. I've tried stopping, backing up and resting. I've tried one rein stops; he just picks up where he left off. I'm really quiet with my body language and relaxed--it's no help. I usually ride him out in the field and he's normally tolerable but today, riding with another horse he's been a nightmare. I finally told my BF to put up his horse and let my horse pick his pace amd sat there like a sack of potatoes and he trotted around our long pasture once and is finally walking on his own accord. So frustrating!! |
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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | What are you feeding? Could he be on a sugar high? |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I owned a horse like this years ago. If you held him back more than a few seconds he would buck HARD. I became sick of it and sold him at auction!! |
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 Good Grief!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | ride him like you stole him then............lol
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no grain of any kind, just a hay diet may help.:) |
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  Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | Best one I ever had was like this. That jigging made me crazy and I made him crazy trying to get him to stop, so I just quit riding him to exercise him all together. I ponied him or lunged him or even tracked him around the arena like a calf on my breakaway horse. He was a business man and found the day to day monotony of loping circles nerve wracking, so we just didn't do it. I ended up running him for almost 10 years. He was a top of the 1D horse for me and for everyone who ever threw a leg over him. He qualifed me for the CNFR all four years I was in college and was in the top 10 in the nation on him. He was a great horse, a great rodeo horse, and the more you entered in a weekend and the faster and harder you had to drive in between them, the better he'd work when you unloaded him. If your horse is finished and doesn't need to be tuned often, you might try the route I took with my horse. Good luck to you and hope you find something that works for you! |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | mruggles - 2014-05-02 4:34 PM ride him like you stole him then............lol
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no grain of any kind, just a hay diet may help.:)
ditto,, horses that jig on trails especially can drive anyone nuts.lol |
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Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | No grain for this one. He's just been on pasture/hay. I mean, he's a little fresh, but it's nothing new. Some days are better than others. He does better with routine. Usually I cool out along another trail and he gets that he needs to walk, but I shouldnt have to do that in order for him to walk! He's unlike any other horse. ..He's a freak!! |
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| My mare is the same way. I can warm her up and do some long trotting, slow her down to a walk and we are jigging and all hyper excited. My best advice to you is patience, and lots of it. Anytime my mare jigs and starts dancing when I'm asking her to walk I just slow her back down make her walk or stop, if she tries again just keep making them walk or stop and nicely walk off. Personally it doesn't bother me a bunch as I would rather have a horse that wants to go rather then something lazy that I'm constantly having to harass to go faster. |
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Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | I let him camp out with the saddle on for about 2 hours while I ran errands. This ride reminded me of why I used to do two-a-days on him!!!!!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Herbie - 2014-05-02 4:48 PM Best one I ever had was like this. That jigging made me crazy and I made him crazy trying to get him to stop, so I just quit riding him to exercise him all together. I ponied him or lunged him or even tracked him around the arena like a calf on my breakaway horse. He was a business man and found the day to day monotony of loping circles nerve wracking, so we just didn't do it. I ended up running him for almost 10 years. He was a top of the 1D horse for me and for everyone who ever threw a leg over him. He qualifed me for the CNFR all four years I was in college and was in the top 10 in the nation on him. He was a great horse, a great rodeo horse, and the more you entered in a weekend and the faster and harder you had to drive in between them, the better he'd work when you unloaded him. If your horse is finished and doesn't need to be tuned often, you might try the route I took with my horse. Good luck to you and hope you find something that works for you!
This exactly!
The best rope horse I ever owned was exactly like this. He pranced ALL THE TIME. If you tried to hold him back, he'd just prance sideways. I kid you not the little sh** could lope sideways. He just could not walk. Wasn't in him. lol. I ponied him off my barrel horses to exercise him, and a couple times a week would jump on him after ponying him and lope some circles. He was obnoxious in college. It just blew his mind to stand in a line and wait while other people were roping. We even tried taking him to the track three or four days a week and exercising and breezing him...he just got crazy buff....never did get tired. lol.
He was Skipper W, Depth Charge, and Doc Quixote breed....but i swear there was some lipizaner in there, the way he could leap through the air when he got excited. lol
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pappas+bojack
I sold him a few years back, because i just didn't have the energy to keep up with him anymore! lol |
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| I have had a few like this, they never seem to get over it if I gave them a break i had to start over. But when worked consinstantly they could and would walk. Hard days work on the ranch and I mean DAY sun up to sun down, and if he wanted to be a prancing gomer he got to prance and hop around in belly deep muskeg swampy muddy slough type areas. Got over it pretty fast when it was that hard.
Some days it really felt like more work than it was worth though ...... lol |
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 Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Sometimes horses like this just need the right kind of warm up, especially if the anticipate. It's not about running the energy out but giving them a chance to relax and getting their mind. Some horses you can't wear down, that's why you have to work on their mind instead. |
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Location: Montana | Fairweather - 2014-05-02 7:27 PM Sometimes horses like this just need the right kind of warm up, especially if the anticipate. It's not about running the energy out but giving them a chance to relax and getting their mind. Some horses you can't wear down, that's why you have to work on their mind instead. give them something else to think about immediaty!. "relaxed" smaller circles, one way and then the other. no jerking!
Soon they figure pressure on one rein means "stupid cicles again and I would prefer to just slow down and be self controlled"
If you loose your temper its all for nill.
Edited by 3drums 2014-05-02 9:45 PM
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Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | We roped later today....cooling him out I just let him trot a couple laps and he meandered down to a walk. I just have to let it be his idea I guess. He's so hot and cold though--he can get hot, but waiting in line to rope he falls asleep and becomes dead-sided. I have to whip his @ss and really mean business for him to listen to me in the box... But I love the bastard. You'd think by now I'd have him figured out. Wrong! |
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Sock Snob
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| I would stop him and back up a few steps every few step. So,you are almost not going any where until he starts to anticipate stopping the you can go a few strides longer. Walk a few steps, stop back some, go forward stop, back up, etc. |
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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| 3drums - 2014-05-02 9:44 PM
Fairweather - 2014-05-02 7:27 PM Sometimes horses like this just need the right kind of warm up, especially if the anticipate. It's not about running the energy out but giving them a chance to relax and getting their mind. Some horses you can't wear down, that's why you have to work on their mind instead. give them something else to think about immediaty!. "relaxed" smaller circles, one way and then the other. no jerking!
Soon they figure pressure on one rein means "stupid cicles again and I would prefer to just slow down and be self controlled"
If you loose your temper its all for nill.
This ^^^ |
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 Chasin my Dream
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Location: Alberta | Fairweather - 2014-05-02 7:27 PM Sometimes horses like this just need the right kind of warm up, especially if the anticipate. It's not about running the energy out but giving them a chance to relax and getting their mind. Some horses you can't wear down, that's why you have to work on their mind instead.
This.....my colt needs his mind worked and you can't wear him down either. The first few minutes when I start riding him it's like he's over stimulated and I have to ride him thru it...no not wear down but keep him interested then we can move forward with my goals for that ride. Consistent riding does him best..... |
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Expert
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| I would break him down mentally and physically, make him conform, that should have him performing at his best in no time. 
Or let a horse be a horse... |
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| Itsme - 2014-05-04 10:11 AM
I would break him down mentally and physically, make him conform, that should have him performing at his best in no time.
Or let a horse be a horse...
I have a real hot one and apparently I am the only one who can (or is crazy enough) to ride her...she jigs, throws her hips around, spins in a circle, and tosses her head like an Arabian waiting for her turn to run, rope, or on trail. I went to a clinic on Friday and the trainer says a horse like that is just being flat out disrespectful. (The mare is 16.) She says I have done okay in the year I've had her if she can now stand knowing that her antics are NOT going to get me intimidated and get off...but she should STAND and WAIT for me to ask her what's next. She had me do a lot of rein up the neck and then turn the opposite direction, 360 degree turns over the hocks and lope off, and then the trainer got on her and they had a "come to Jesus" moment. LOL...that mare was drenched in sweat, stood with her head hanging, and then ran a BLAZING fast, tight pattern. 
This is also a mare that has galloped sideways with me on trail for an hour and a half. So yes, I agree...do some kind of work to break him down, but just be sure your stamina can match his. It's HARD with those Energizer Bunny types. |
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