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          Location: 31 lengths farms | My mare that was passing blood in her urine has a large one. a $4500+ abdominal surgery isn't in the paycheck/works for me and let me tell you that hurts worse than anything I've ever said in my life. To look my mare in the eye and know I cannot afford the thing that could save her hurts worse than anything.
One other option is that the vet can go in thru the urethra with a chisel and try breaking the stone up (has done it before, said it is rough and even if you get it broke up that extracting the pieces is almost as hard as a bladder stone is pourous and breaks up in rough pieces if they can get it broken up).
My other vet that I use for everyday type stuff said that they use a product in dogs that can dissolve stones and then it is easier for them to pass them. He was going to do some research on that for me, never been used in horses that he knows of.
Just throwing this out there hoping to not have to make the one decision that is really the only one I can afford and that is to put her down....  |
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The Advice Guru
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| Find a different vet who does laser surgery, they go in with a fluoroscopy laser the stone into small particles so the horse can void it out. Recover time is minimal. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | Thank you, been doing some research on it, hoping to find someone that offers it. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Where are you located, as someone on the board might be able to help |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | I'm in Red Bluff CA, about 2 hours north of Sacramento. Calling UC Davis to find out if they have used it....
Edited by run n rate 2014-04-24 12:48 PM
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | Spoke to UC Davis this morning, it is a teaching hospital, they have performed this surgery with laser both on geldings and mares several times with good success according to the vet I spoke to. He quoted me a price I think I may be able to sell myself on the street corner at a few bucks a lbs to come up with (kidding!!! but such a relief after discussing other price ranges for surgeries and both yourself and your regular vet do not believe your horse is a good candidate for abdominal type surgery because she has n the past shown herself to be an epic failure at being a good patient, she is not of the type that will stand in a stall for 2 months quietly, aint gonna happen!!! She about undid herself 3 years ago with a 2 night stay in a stall recovering from a fractured patella)
Anyway, they can put her under sedation, do an epiblock, go in thru the urethra with the laser while having a camera of sorts to view what they are doing, they have a extraction tool that also protects the urethra while the extract the pieces they break the stone into being taken out.
My biggest worry is again, it is a teaching hospital. Usually on this type of thing is it a vet 95% of the work and students observing? Thoughts? |
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| The students observe and assist. So you don't have to worry about that. I would also call Silver Lining herbs. Ask for Mickey. They have a product for kidneys . It might help, or he will have something that will. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | Its not a kidney stone, hers is a bladder stone...From what my vet and I talked about the other day, kidney stones tend to be hard and smooth and I think he said Magnsium or something like that based, where as bladder stones tend to be porous and calcium based. Hope I have that right or near enough.
And thank you for the info on the actual practice of teaching hospitals, that helps with the decision :-) |
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