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Had a lameness exam done on my gelding about 4-5 months ago, vet did not see any signs of lameness but he does have a tilted pelvis and will need chiro'ed regularly. We did go ahead and inject hocks anyway. & I had him chiro'ed the next week.
Last Thursday I decided to go to my first lesson, my gelding and I have kind of been on a downward slide as of the last 2 years or so. The chiro seemed to help for a bit and then not so much after a few runs. So, first thing my instructor pointed out was that he was short stepping his right rear. This could be from his pelvis needing to be chiro'ed since it had been a number of months. Had it done same day. Now, Yesterday I got on him and he seemed to be a little better but couldn't tell if he was still short stepping since I had no one to watch.
My question is, I am planning on going back for another lesson either this Thursday or next. I am PRAYING that things are better and that is all he really needed, but if not....im not sure where to go from their. What would be your next step? I need to do things "money smart", so for the money, what would be the best things to do first.
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| If your horse was chiro'd 4-5 months ago, you should get him done again. Chiro can last months, days or even as short as hours if they do something stupid. That's where I'd start. You said yourself he'd need done frequently. |
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| Nateracer - 2014-05-05 3:46 PM
If your horse was chiro'd 4-5 months ago, you should get him done again. Chiro can last months, days or even as short as hours if they do something stupid. That's where I'd start. You said yourself he'd need done frequently.  Â
Yes I had him done last Thursday, same day of the lesson after she noticed him being off.
This could be the issue, but I will not know until I ride him a couple more times to see if he is still off, is he is...then my question is, what next?
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The Advice Guru
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| When you did the vet check 4 months ago, did the vet flex, block, and X-ray? |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Â xrays |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM
When you did the vet check 4 months ago, did the vet flex, block, and X-ray?
Flexed, but did not block or x-ray |
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| Rustynailfl - 2014-05-05 3:19 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM
When you did the vet check 4 months ago, did the vet flex, block, and X-ray?
Flexed, but did not block or x-ray
Then I would go to a different vet, and have them do the assessment properly, flex, block, and X-ray min 3 views of each hock.
I don't let vets inject blindly, I want to see the proof |
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I got a video yesterday of our warm up, this is day 3 after adjustment. I know its not a great video but possibly some of your eyes will be able to spot anything off. It was his right rear that he was short stepping before the adjustment. I am having a hard time telling if he is still doing this., maybe some fresh eyes will help. You will need to skip through to about 4 minutes in the video.
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Location: mi | You know I get ripped on alot because I will often longe my horses before riding. But just 5 minutes on the longe line can give a good deal of insite into how your horse is moving that day. And if you do it often enough you really get to know your horses way of tracking and can pin point just the slightest change. I would for sure be doing this before each ride on a horse with questionable soundness. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | I absolutely would not be doing circles with this gelding right now until you find his issue. he is off.. and id get to a differant lameness vet that can xray .. but he is not sound. 4- 5 months the injections can be worn off to .Id not train until hes checked
Edited by Bibliafarm 2014-05-06 8:28 AM
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | You need a lameness vet. There is something going on in that hind end that needs addressed.
The tail swishing (which is almost constant) and the way he's holding/moving his hind legs looks almost like he's squatting. Looks like he's standing base narrow too. Definately some back or leg pain going on IMHO
I would not be riding and taking this horse in for a full lameness exam- flex, xray or u/s, then if you need them, blocks. I'd go to a good clinic or university that has a lameness specialist. |
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| Like I said, we had to see if it was because he needed adjusted or something different, hence why I needed to do some warm up's with him. We have lunged him before and the vet and myself did not see anything noticeable.
Note, he is typically a stiffer horse than what most are used to, it’s just his training and the way he is. But I do feel that there might be more going on than that. Also, he does usually swish his tail a lot, always has…and the flies were pretty bad yesterday evening, so this could be a reason for the more than normal swishing…but like I said, not positive on that.
So I’m not crazy that I feel like there is something going on in his rear, that’s what I needed to hear. Will be making a call to a specialist today. Thanks all!
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| I can't believe that your chiro/vet doesn't recommend at least 3 to 7 days of stall rest after he has been adjusted for the muscles to recondition themselves. |
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Location: Midwest | Rustynailfl - 2014-05-06 8:43 AM Like I said, we had to see if it was because he needed adjusted or something different, hence why I needed to do some warm up's with him. We have lunged him before and the vet and myself did not see anything noticeable. Note, he is typically a stiffer horse than what most are used to, it’s just his training and the way he is. But I do feel that there might be more going on than that. Also, he does usually swish his tail a lot, always has…and the flies were pretty bad yesterday evening, so this could be a reason for the more than normal swishing…but like I said, not positive on that. So I’m not crazy that I feel like there is something going on in his rear, that’s what I needed to hear. Will be making a call to a specialist today. Thanks all!
Oh that could be it- we don't have any up here yet. I didn't even think of that lol (I'm in IN) |
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Location: Florida.. | who was your chiro and who is your vet .. just curoius..
The tail Swishing appears to be more pain related..stiffness can be normal or his way of moving but its one sided which to me means pain .. something isnt right.. and can you haul to UF and get a full exam ? or get Dr porter.. I have used him alot .. http://phdveterinaryservices.com/projects/phd/ |
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| melaself - 2014-05-06 10:30 AM
I can't believe that your chiro/vet doesn't recommend at least 3 to 7 days of stall rest after he has been adjusted for the muscles to recondition themselves.Â
He was adjusted Thursday and his first very light (only walking) ride was Sunday, yesterday was his second ride and what is in the video is all we did. So he had 2 days and then very light work. But as we can see that wasn't the issue unfortunately :( |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-06 10:33 AM
Rustynailfl - 2014-05-06 8:43 AM Like I said, we had to see if it was because he needed adjusted or something different, hence why I needed to do some warm up's with him. We have lunged him before and the vet and myself did not see anything noticeable. Note, he is typically a stiffer horse than what most are used to, it’s just his training and the way he is. But I do feel that there might be more going on than that. Also, he does usually swish his tail a lot, always has…and the flies were pretty bad yesterday evening, so this could be a reason for the more than normal swishing…but like I said, not positive on that. So I’m not crazy that I feel like there is something going on in his rear, that’s what I needed to hear. Will be making a call to a specialist today. Thanks all!
 Oh that could be it- we don't have any up here yet. I didn't even think of that lol (I'm in IN)
You are lucky!! We already have them pretty bad and already starting with mosquitoes!! |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 10:46 AM
who was your chiro and who is your vet .. just curoius..Â
The tail Swishing appears to be more pain related..stiffness can be normal or his way of moving but its one sided which to me means pain .. something isnt right.. and can you haul to UF and get a full exam ? or get Dr porter.. I have used him alot .. http://phdveterinaryservices.com/projects/phd/
I am trying to get him in with Dr. Steele now, waiting to hear back from them. I have heard good things about her, so fingers crossed!!
Edited to add.. I agree with the one sided=pain, which is how we pin pointed the right rear at first. He was super stiff and didn't want to give any pressure to the left (where he would have to pull his right rear all the way up under him).
Edited by Rustynailfl 2014-05-06 9:54 AM
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | You are on the right path sounds like. Hope you get some answers. When one is sore, it is so frustrating! |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-06 10:53 AM
You are on the right path sounds like. Hope you get some answers. When one is sore, it is so frustrating!Â
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