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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | I like it on a colt because it gives me more control of their shoulder. If you have it correctly adjusted it is a great tool. But I have seen too many barrel racers that have it cranked down tight like a tie down. This defeats the purpose. Also I don't use it everyday just occasionally. |
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| Thank you. I mean for making runs. My mare is very broke but still young. I have her at home where I can be high loping around the arena or paΕ‘ure and sit down and she will collect but still being young she is having trouble doing this at the first barrel going fast. I ran her in it Sunday and we made a big improvement. It really made collecting for the turn easier for her and kept her collected longer to finish the turn. On 2 & 3 (left turns) she doesn't has any problem. She is just dominant on that side so it's easier. I would like to think eventually or gradually I can wean her off of it where she will run up and collect with body and rein pressure but for now this seems to be communicating to her what I'm trying to get across without being harsh or confusing. |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I experimented around with it for a bit. Didn't end up being the right combination. For us, but I liked the feel all right. I still do slow work and dry work in a myler D with a German martingale. |
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| I had the same issue. When I would push a young mare I had to the first a little when I would rate she would come up and her back would hollow out and she couldn't be as efficient. I have it pretty loose and it seems to work well she's clocking 2 and 3d in tx high loping through so I'm going to continue using it. I kept telling my mom I can't use one to run in but she then told me if if works it works and that Charmayne ran in a Rutledge roper. Haha. |
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 Good Grief!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | ran in one lots of times and with a variety of bits..............
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Elite Veteran
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| I ran in one several times.. on my finished mare. It really just seemed to clean her up and keep her level. I tried it from time to time just to switch things up.
On my colts, I use it after they have learned to respect the bit. I like to ride them in it at home to keep them reminded of what I want. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-06-24 6:46 AM
Thank you. I mean for making runs. My mare is very broke but still young. I have her at home where I can be high loping around the arena or paΕ‘ure and sit down and she will collect but still being young she is having trouble doing this at the first barrel going fast. I ran her in it Sunday and we made a big improvement. It really made collecting for the turn easier for her and kept her collected longer to finish the turn. On 2 & 3 (left turns) she doesn't has any problem. She is just dominant on that side so it's easier. I would like to think eventually or gradually I can wean her off of it where she will run up and collect with body and rein pressure but for now this seems to be communicating to her what I'm trying to get across without being harsh or confusing.
Oh sorry, but I was talking about running a colt in it! |
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Location: louisiana | I have been curious about this to, I slow work my finished horse in it but during a run he cant seem to collect him self for the first barrel |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | When my gelding was bowing out on the 2nd barrel, I gave it a try and loved it. I had more control and could almost force him into his points...but then I found out he was doing that because of pain from a pelvic injury. I do think they have a place and would use one again, I just try to fix the issue without one first. They are a short term kind of fix I guess you would say. |
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | I used one on a finished horse quite often, with several different bits. Won a lot of money while using it.
I don't believe I ever saw Ali without one on. Sheri Estrada made consecutive NFRs on him in 2004 and 2005, Im pretty sure and if memory is correct, they qualified with 30 or less rodeos both years.
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The Advice Guru
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| My young horses are really broke and soft in the mouth face neck ribcage. I don't train with a German martingale, but do run majority of the young ones in a German martingale.
I have mine adjusted that it will only make contact if the horse gets their nose up. I try to set my horses up for success, and I find with the German martingale if the colts gets into a situation and panicks, the martingale keeps their nose from going up and I can diffuse the situation and move on without a major event.
Once the horse is solid on the pattern away from home, I will take the martingale off. |
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| I use them when necessary......just like anything else, they are a tool. This guy was young here. He grew up to run with or without a tie down depending on the circumstances. This was a 1D run at a tough race. Two out of the $$$.
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| My trainer ran my horse at the World show in a German Martingale and a Jr Cowhorse. Since I got him home, I run him in it. He is an 11 year old. You use what works.
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I think its a great tool in training and tuning but also can be used at a crutch for other issues. |
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 Born not Made
Posts: 2931
Location: North Dakota | Myself personally, I think they can be a good tool to use every now and then on a horse (young or old). But I would NOT want to rely on one all the time. I like to teach my horse to be soft and supple in other ways, without having to use a german martingale. |
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 Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | I run my OTTB in one. It settles her. Less head tossing, nerves, etc. I have it on the very "lowest" setting and it is perfect. I am not a tie down fan and so this is a happy medium for me and this horse. I don't see an issue running one in it. And sice I have had this down at the arena with me a lot I have started doing slow work with my finished/seasoned mare in one and our runs have gotten smoother too. I still run tha thorse in her regular bit, but the tuning in the Tender Touch/German Margintale combo has been great.
I always hear how they can make them front end-y or hollow out etc. I have never experienced that problem with them. But they are required to ride collected at my house, so.... |
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