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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | My mare seems to be running out of "gas" by the third barrel on big patterns. She is still placing 1D but I know she has more. I long trot for 20-30 minutes and lope for 10-15. Any tips to help her gain endurance?
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | I agree with above post, I would have her scoped to make sure she is not bleeding.... |
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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | She is a diagnosed bleeder, she runs on IV Lasix. Sorry forgot to mention that! |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | Could she be sore anywhere? I knew my mare had more to give but I couldn't get her to run the whole pattern, her hocks were sore. Got them injected and it helped a ton. I also started using flair nasal strips which seemed the help as well. |
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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | She's been injected and had chiro done! She's not breathing hard at the end of the run but just seems to coast out. |
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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | Here is a video of her this last weekend on a big and deep pattern.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203427670924837&set=vb.1604400018&type=2&theater
Edited by turnandburn16 2014-06-24 10:18 AM
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Location: Randolph, Utah | turnandburn16 - 2014-06-24 9:14 AM
She's been injected and had chiro done! She's not breathing hard at the end of the run but just seems to coast out.
Have you tried sprinting her during the week? I try and sprint the ride before my horses will run. |
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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | JcNhEmI - 2014-06-24 10:19 AM turnandburn16 - 2014-06-24 9:14 AM She's been injected and had chiro done! She's not breathing hard at the end of the run but just seems to coast out. Have you tried sprinting her during the week? I try and sprint the ride before my horses will run.
No I haven't tried that! I will give it a try! Thanks! |
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| How far back do you run from going to your first? I see a lot of people that run from the back of the alley, even if the timer is 60 or more feet in the arena. Your horse is going to run out of air at some point.
Also, You don't appear to be riding very aggressively going home in that video. I'd get up and hustle more, let your mare know you want to run. |
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| First things first, what a NICE mare you have there... Seriously. She is cool.
Second, I'd have to agree with possibly starting her closer to the first barrel, conserve her air, however, will that effect your first barrel? She appears to be a HARD runner.
Is she small? She looks little, which is a "disadvantage" as she has to work harder than a horse with a big stride, clearly though she is holding her own.
I personally don't see her coasting out, she lengthens her stride IMO and covers ground nicely... It always looks different than it feels though. I guess if it were me, I'd maybe breeze her a bit, hustle her a little harder on the way home, but that mare is running and TRYING for you already... I wouldnt pick at her too much... :)
NICE HORSE  Would love to know how she is bred!
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Location: Deep South | Looked like a really nice run to me.
Seems like you've covered most of the bases I usually ask about first.
Only other thought that I have, how soon outside of the arena are you asking for a complete stop? Are you easing her down from her run to a gentle stop?
I see quite a few barrel racers go from kick, whip, smooch mode, to immediately asking for a sliding, butt dragging stop and wanting their horses to back up a few steps. Horses will preserve themselves for what they know is coming next. If she's expecting an abrupt stop, she's not going to give 100%. I'm not suggesting letting her run away with you or anything like that, but I do like to transition mine down gently.
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Location: Pa | I also would suggest breezing. Barring you know there are no other problems with your mare. If you have a nice long safe trail or area to just let them go. I do this with all my horses and you can tell they really enjoy just going full out once in a while. =] |
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Location: Freezing in Wisconsin | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-06-24 11:25 AM First things first, what a NICE mare you have there... Seriously. She is cool. Second, I'd have to agree with possibly starting her closer to the first barrel, conserve her air, however, will that effect your first barrel? She appears to be a HARD runner. Is she small? She looks little, which is a "disadvantage" as she has to work harder than a horse with a big stride, clearly though she is holding her own. I personally don't see her coasting out, she lengthens her stride IMO and covers ground nicely... It always looks different than it feels though. I guess if it were me, I'd maybe breeze her a bit, hustle her a little harder on the way home, but that mare is running and TRYING for you already... I wouldnt pick at her too much... : ) NICE HORSE Would love to know how she is bred!
Thank you! She is very special to me! I didn't ask her until right out of the alley way, was about as far as she would let me hold her haha! She is small, only 14.2 but doesn't know it :)
For the one who asked about stopping I didn't ask her to stop until completely in the alley way and then I just rate her down and was at a trot at the end of the alley.
Thanks every one for the suggestions, I will try breezing her a couple of times and see if that helps! Up next weekend in this same arena but bottom of the ground and wanted to give her as much advantage as I could.
Here is her breeding for those interested: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/irish+winds+of+fire
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Location: WA | I didn't watch your video but this happened to my mare a few years back. I was riding her hard to keep her fit. It was a good 5 days a week of intense riding. I was wearing her out. What are you feeding her? Maybe up her calories, give her more oomph? Or back off on the conditioning? A top trainer and rider in our area recomended 15 minutes of long trotting to me. When I cut back to 15 minutes of long trotting and 5 minutes of loping, my mare had more fire. Also, about once a month I add in some sprinting in the arena. It makes her crazy if I do it more, but for us the last year or so this seems to be working. The last 6 months, actually, have been crazy busy and she only get 3-4 rides on her. She is cloking better than before and not running out of steam. Might be that she is just getting worn out? Just my two cents. Best of luck! |
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