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barrelracincrazy
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-12-01 8:13 AM
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What is your favorite?  I don't want anything that will break the bank. My mare is a very picky eater when it comes to supplements too.  Thanks! 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-12-01 8:44 AM
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When I first got my gelding several years ago I fed Animal Element because it had tumeric, MSM and HA. I could tell a difference in him when I fed it and when I didn't. I quit for a while because I wasn't riding. I am back to riding and was going to go back to it when Herbie started talking about her horse's problem and how much Cur Ost helped him. I emailed Dr. Tom and did what he suggested and now I use Cur Ost because my horse has a variety of problems. He moves with a longer stride and is much easier to work with on his hind legs since I started with Cur Ost. But if for some reason I can't feed Cur Ost I will be going back to Animal Element.
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-12-01 8:57 AM
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In considering joint issues and maintenance, it's arthritis we're discussing.  The question that needs to be asked is how to prevent further bone damage due to arthritis.  The boney change that is there cannot be improved, but what can be improved upon is managing the inflammation (arthritis) that causes the boney change.  I choose Cur-OST, as it directly targets the hind gut where most inflammation in the body begins.  There is a direct link in diet to inflammation in the body and many will tell you that they have less aches and pains with there arthritis when they eat a clean diet.  The Cur-OST contains high levels of bcm-95 Curcurmin, combined with other powerful herbs, to target the source of the inflammation, not just the symptoms that are already there.  Not to mention the other valuable benefit received through this process, as it will improve all other inflammatory issues as well....they are all related and tied in to the gut. 

At some point, we all deal with arthritic changes in both ourselves and our horses simply due to age and overuse/repitition of our bodies.  Looking at this from a "which comes first, the chicken or the egg" scenario, if we manage the inflammation at a cellular level, could the inflammation that leads to the boney change be lessened, and if so, would boney changes ever occur?  Maybe.  Prevention is worth a pound of cure for me, and I prefer to spend a little more on these products and my hay and less on commercial/processed feeds to ensure i'm providing the body with the proper nutrients to not only deter inflammation in the hind gut, but to manage it throughout the entire body in hopes to keep these boney changes that lead to arthritis at a minimum. 
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barrelracincrazy
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-12-01 9:36 AM
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That really helps I will look into that.  She 18 this year.  The last show I took her (two weeks ago) to she came up lame the next day and now she is lame on and off since.  I have done laser therpay since the injury and my vet is coming back out this weekend.  I just hate to see her in pain!!!!! I hope she has some running years left in her, but I just her to be pain free even if she just a pasture pet.    
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-12-01 9:39 AM
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I feed curost to but if you want an actual supplement then tigtjointsplus is an excellent option and runs 70 bucks for 2 months. Very quick results.

I just read your second post. If the horse is that age I would be using an injectable. Pentosan is great for horses who already have issues.

Edited by FLITASTIC 2015-12-01 9:42 AM
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barrelracincrazy
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-12-01 9:41 AM
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What type of Cur-ost do you get? The total supplement?  
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-12-01 9:43 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-12-01 7:39 AM

I feed curost to but if you want an actual supplement then tigtjointsplus is an excellent option and runs 70 bucks for 2 months. Very quick results.

I just read your second post. If the horse is that age I would be using an injectable. Pentosan is great for horses who already have issues.

I second Pentosan and I also use Cosequin ASU+. I have tried TJP but didn't see the results, however I know several people who use it and like it. Each horse is different.
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trobertson
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2015-12-01 10:06 AM
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I use Pentosan and have seen great results with only two doses to far. I have a 16 year old barrel horse that was just ouchy sometimes and took a little while to warm up. It has worked wonderful! She is out bucking and ripping around with the others where before she wasn't. It is really something to consider and very reasonably priced.
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-12-01 10:11 AM
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barrelracincrazy - 2015-12-01 9:41 AM What type of Cur-ost do you get? The total supplement?  

Yes, I use the Total Support.  There are other options that offer a higher level of inflammation management as well if the Total Support isn't enough. 

First things first, you need to find out what the vets says, as the lameness sounds like an acute injury rather than a chronic joint soreness.   
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cutnrunqhmt
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-12-01 10:19 AM
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I am starting cur-ost for an ulcer horse so I guess I will see how it works for everything else as well. I do use a joint supplement called GLC 5500rx with excellent results. It is the only one I have seen these kind of results with and I have used a lot of different ones. My friend had a 15 yr old mare that got hurt, the fought for months to get her sound again and finally the vet said to turn her out she was done. That was a year and a half ago and she has been running strong ever since we started her on it. She runs in the 1D everywhere they go with her and has not taken a bad step yet. We also started an older horse on it with a big knee , he was still running but could only get one run a weekend on him. He has been doing great an has been running 3 day weekends and even qualified in a race where the top 20 came back later in the day and he ran 2nd . My own mare who had hock problems has done great, her times have gotten faster and she was starting to get bad at the gate but no longer is. She was just get sore enough she didn't want to go. It is about $50 a month but if you want to try some message me .
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barrelracincrazy
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-12-01 10:25 AM
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Yep, vet is coming out this weekend.  Just wanted to get options. I hoping it is nothing major.  It got me thinking that I need to put her on something since she is getting older.  
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-12-01 3:09 PM
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I feed Animal Element Foundation Detox it has HA, MSM and Glucosamine in it for joints. We will have a new joint formula coming out very soon that will be solely for joint support and issues.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-12-01 6:37 PM
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Herbie - 2015-12-01 8:57 AM

In considering joint issues and maintenance, it's arthritis we're discussing.  The question that needs to be asked is how to prevent further bone damage due to arthritis.  The boney change that is there cannot be improved, but what can be improved upon is managing the inflammation (arthritis) that causes the boney change.  I choose Cur-OST, as it directly targets the hind gut where most inflammation in the body begins.  There is a direct link in diet to inflammation in the body and many will tell you that they have less aches and pains with there arthritis when they eat a clean diet.  The Cur-OST contains high levels of bcm-95 Curcurmin, combined with other powerful herbs, to target the source of the inflammation, not just the symptoms that are already there.  Not to mention the other valuable benefit received through this process, as it will improve all other inflammatory issues as well....they are all related and tied in to the gut. 

At some point, we all deal with arthritic changes in both ourselves and our horses simply due to age and overuse/repitition of our bodies.  Looking at this from a "which comes first, the chicken or the egg" scenario, if we manage the inflammation at a cellular level, could the inflammation that leads to the boney change be lessened, and if so, would boney changes ever occur?  Maybe.  Prevention is worth a pound of cure for me, and I prefer to spend a little more on these products and my hay and less on commercial/processed feeds to ensure i'm providing the body with the proper nutrients to not only deter inflammation in the hind gut, but to manage it throughout the entire body in hopes to keep these boney changes that lead to arthritis at a minimum. 

Controlling chronic inflammation while not overpowering the horses ability to generate acute inflammation is the key here. Since these are two different mechanisms that should be possible. Targeting proper hind gut function is absolutely beneficial in minimizing chronic inflammation, providing efficient energy production through better roughage digestion, normalizing immune response, and elimination of hind gut ulcers. Cur-Ost seems to be proving effective as the results shared by a number of people on this board indicate. I think there are better alternatives to oats in the diet if additional digestible energy in the performance horse is concerned, but the overall principal seems sound to me. If I needed a joint supplement, I would certainly consider using Cur-Ost along with a diet change as a way of addressing problems generated by an otherwise improper diet that may result in arthritic changes from chronic inflammation. I am not sure that once those dietary issues are addressed that you would need to feed it forever. But, it looks like an effective tool to get a horse back on the road to a normalized digestive system.
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