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| Wormed my horse last night for the first time since I've owned him and it was a nightmare. Took 3 people, and we all broke a sweat. He throws his head up as far as he can get it and every time I get near his head he just jerks it up. |
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| How is he to bridle? Does he act like this with a bit? |
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| I’d dig the empty tube out of the trash and start making it part of your daily life. First all you want to do is rub it on his face, then lips, then put it in his mouth - all still empty. Then get some applesauce, same deal. At the same time make sure he’s respectful of pressure and drops his head when you ask.
They also make a “worming bit” that is basically a hollow tube that you stick the working tube in, to my understanding, I’ve only ever seen them in catalogs.
Good things to work on passing the time over winter. |
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Location: Oregon | Try the daily womer pellets - just top dress your feed.
Wanted to add - This ^^ is one option. Silver Lining also has a powdered top dress natural wormer. BUT I would try all the suggestions as well in order to get him used to having something put into his mouth just for the fact that he might need to be medicated/treated this way. Good luck!
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-11-15 12:10 PM
How is he to bridle? Does he act like this with a bit?
No, he is perfect to bridle |
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Location: South Dakota | Gently and carefully, stick your thumb in his mouth everyday, go slow, go easy, and work up to being able to gently press the roof of his mouth, and hold it there for a few seconds...as he accepts this, you will notice his eyes soften or get blinky, and after you remove thumb, he very likely will release with a yawn, or headshake. A good way to build trust. If he throws his head up at first, just try and let your hand go with it, softly, and then regroup, keep the fight out of it. |
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| Katie's - 2017-11-15 12:19 PM
Try the daily womer pellets - just top dress your feed.
This is a year round everyday deal? |
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Location: Oregon | emricmacy - 2017-11-15 10:24 AM Katie's - 2017-11-15 12:19 PM Try the daily womer pellets - just top dress your feed. This is a year round everyday deal?
Yep!
https://www.zoetisus.com/products/horses/strongid-c-c-2x.aspx
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  Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | When I bought my stud, he was horrible to worm. Just like yours. I just kept putting my fingers in his mouth without actually doing anything. He got better. Then I had to treat him for scratches and was giving him SMZ's every day for a while. I put honey with the SMZ's in a syringe and he got really good about it. Now he's fine. I can dose him without a halter. |
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Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm |
Strongid doesn't get all types of worms so the horse will still need to be wormed for the others (tapeworms and bots especially). I've never been a fan of daily wormers because they actually cause parasite resistance. |
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Stinky Cat Owner
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Location: Oregon | OregonBR - 2017-11-15 10:31 AM Strongid doesn't get all types of worms so the horse will still need to be wormed for the others (tapeworms and bots especially ). I've never been a fan of daily wormers because they actually cause parasite resistance.
Agree. Also within that link they've addressed over-worming. I'm very glad to see that brought up! |
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Location: Texas | We just put the difficult ones in the trailer and worm them thru the window. |
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| Graham cracker sandwich - mine will do anything for a graham cracker |
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Location: South Georgia | If he handles a bridle easily, try this gadget:
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=1a3816d2-48a4-4913-a9be-f2f72d5cb347
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Location: Arizona | I usually just cover up my horses one eye, bam, she doesn't even see it coming!! |
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Location: Deep South | I agree with starting with just your finger. I've brought a few back around that were absolutely horrible. You could not touch the corners of their mouth at all without sending them into a panic. When they stop (insert whatever behavior here, head tossing, etc) take your finger away. Do it until they're no longer phased. Then move onto an empty syringe, or one filled with applesauce or honey. All of these have worked for me. I start by just rubbing it on the corners of their mouth. Take it away the instant they relax. Then lightly poking the corners of their mouth, not trying to just jam it in there right away. You get the idea. Just breaking it down in as many steps as it takes to make them comfortable and no longer afraid of it.
ETA: I tried the worming bit before and it was a huge mess. Lol! I don't think the mare consumed even half of what I was trying to give her.
Edited by BamaCanChaser 2017-11-16 9:10 AM
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Sparklin Cowgirl
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| My young mare wasn't the best and I always feed her a treat or grain right after so she has started to associate the tube with food so she isn't as much of a pain.
Wine helps me get through it.... |
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Location: North Dakota | OhMax - 2017-11-15 12:16 PM I’d dig the empty tube out of the trash and start making it part of your daily life.
Yup. This is what I would do.
Just like you would address any other training problem, take care of the training problem!
Sure, deworming isn't that big of a deal since there are other options. But if I have an emergency or an injury and I need to give a horse banamine or bute or something else in a tube, I need to be able to do it without a fight. IMO
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| Before I say this.. disclaimer: I wouldn't do this on a horse who is any sort of headshy. My EPM horse was on daily oral meds/supplements and the only way he wouldn't throw it and knock me around was by grabbing his muzzle in my hand similar to twitching (not near as harshly) to distract him. I'd just hold on and wiggle his top lip and he'd let me shoot anything in his mouth and no, he has never once become shy to my hands on his face. Have since used the same distraction on others a time or two with no problem. |
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