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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-07-09 7:54 AM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM  Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......

 3 Gun is a blast. Do you shoot USPSA or IMGA?
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TXBO
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Posted 2014-07-09 7:59 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-07-08 10:33 PM I think it's fair to say that there's no correlation between strict gun control and the number of gun-related crimes and homicides.  If you want to see an explosion in gun related crimes, eliminate the 2nd Ammendment, and watch the sparks fly.  

 There is a correlation, Doc.  The cities with the strictest gun control laws have the highest crime rates.
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TXBO
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Posted 2014-07-09 8:03 AM
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Nevertooold - 2014-07-08 6:51 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-07-08 4:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 



Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.



The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
PREACH :) I agree 100%. Laws don't do anything unless you have infrastructure, funding, and police to support them along with an economy that can or will support the growth and change. I agree that poverty and criminal actions go hand in hand. They have since history has been recorded. I'm not trying to say that crime doesn't happen in "better" communities but that there is a strong correlation between crime and the amount of money household's bring home.
The Dems created many of the ghetto's in Chicago through welfare. When they needed more room for building they flattened Cabrini Green and dispersed about 4,000 of Chicago's problems Throughout Illinois. Chicago's crime rate went down for a short time and it grew around towns in other parts of Illinois. Most of those dispersed have been replenished since having illegitimate babies are rewarded and is a way of life with welfare people and the cycle continues. 

 True.  The crime rate is as much about the family breakdown as it is money.
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-07-09 9:19 AM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM

 Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......

Sweet!! I love 3 gun. My SO is practicing and shooting 3 gun this year. I love going to watch! If I can find a shotgun I like, I'm gonna shoot 3 gun next year. I have the AR and a sweet 9 mm both set up for competition right now. I run mounted shooting and LOVE it too.

ETA - spelling, sorry.

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lindseylou2290
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Posted 2014-07-09 9:20 AM
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lindseylou2290 - 2014-07-08 4:22 PM

barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM

Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 

Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.

The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.

PREACH :) I agree 100%. Laws don't do anything unless you have infrastructure, funding, and police to support them along with an economy that can or will support the growth and change. I agree that poverty and criminal actions go hand in hand. They have since history has been recorded.

I'm not trying to say that crime doesn't happen in "better" communities but that there is a strong correlation between crime and the amount of money household's bring home.

I like you.

Ha! well, thank you :)
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-09 11:08 AM
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TXBO - 2014-07-09 7:59 AM

HotbearLVR - 2014-07-08 10:33 PM I think it's fair to say that there's no correlation between strict gun control and the number of gun-related crimes and homicides.  If you want to see an explosion in gun related crimes, eliminate the 2nd Ammendment, and watch the sparks fly.  

 There is a correlation, Doc.  The cities with the strictest gun control laws have the highest crime rates.

Yes, TXBO, you are right.
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Cindy Hamilton
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:14 PM
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lindseylou2290 - 2014-07-09 9:19 AM
Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM  Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......
Sweet!! I love 3 gun. My SO is practicing and shooting 3 gun this year. I love going to watch! If I can find a shotgun I like, I'm gonna shoot 3 gun next year. I have the AR and a sweet 9 mm both set up for competition right now. I run mounted shooting and LOVE it too. ETA - spelling, sorry.

I used to shoot skeet, so I'm decent with a shotgun.....I recently went from my trusty Mossberg 500 tactical 6 shot 18.5" barrel (had this for years, love it) to the Mossberg 930 10 shot, 2 lbs. heavier and 6" longer (no comment yet...not crazy about the weight, length or fiber optic sight for some reason, it's distracting)....you'll love the feel of the 500, but it doesn't hold enough shells and you have to reload too often (fun but not competitive)...I'm getting used to the 930, but unless I stay serious about this 3 gun competition, I feel better using the 500, but reloading is where the time is gained....I changed sights on my Glock to Warren all black, but everything else is stock, no fiber optics there either.  Since I need rifle practice, I won't enter anything until I feel confident I can go from gun to gun and feel comfortable with it.

I haven't shot in a match yet.....3 gun can be intimidating for a beginner to the sport...I might start with Tac-Ops and get a better feel for the rifle......a sheriff in my county has Tac-Ops stages near me for practice with instructors to help you get better....July 20 is Tac Ops day at his place again all day.....no, I won't wear camo...LOL...I just like a challenge and thought I'd give this a try since I've always liked to shoot...never done mounted shooting though, I bet it's fun.



 
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Cindy Hamilton
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:20 PM
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TXBO - 2014-07-09 7:54 AM
Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM  Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......
 3 Gun is a blast. Do you shoot USPSA or IMGA?

No time today...the IFYR is in Shawnee and we are busy....the matches here are USPCA, but they use multi gun scoring for some reason....can't wait for my first one...individual guns...ok...but all 3 will be fun but challenging, I'm going to emphasize accuracy and safety, not speed...I'll have to stop and think because I don't get to practice on a stage like some of them do....LOL
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Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2014-07-09 8:57 PM
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I had a friend that lives in the UK.  She was telling me that when they banned gun in th country, by the nest year crime went up something like 381% 
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-07-10 12:37 AM
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VonDigger - 2014-07-09 8:57 PM

I had a friend that lives in the UK.  She was telling me that when they banned gun in th country, by the nest year crime went up something like 381% 

....and that was just in the government...
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