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   Location: Sperry, OK | LRQHS - 2014-08-06 1:06 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-08-06 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-06 10:33 AM MS2011 - 2014-08-06 10:28 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-08-06 8:46 AM You don't want to put the head into position, you create energy from behind and capture it with your hands. The horse comes into your hands and onto the bit. And when they're learning, they can only collect a few strides at a time because it takes a lot of strength. A lot of people make the mistake of using draw reins or a German martingale to force the horse into a frame and call it collection, but it's not. It's only a frame without impulsion from the rear. This is a good description, I will add that to be collected and lifted thru the back....they can't have their head straight up in the air. Lightly set your hands and push with your seat and legs into them. You've got to have a light feel, don't pull....if they feel heavy, add leg, not hand. I'd really recommend riding with a trainer if you can to at least get a feel for it. It's tough to describe. Trouble is finding a trainer around here. I refuse to leave my horses some place that I can't visit daily or every few days now. And, just finding a teacher is near impossible too. I'm not sure what to do.
I appreciate all of the responses though. I did learn a little :) Seriously, if you can go ride with Levi Olson. He is in Texas, so shouldn't be too far for you! This man can work wonders with you AND your horse! Do you know where he is in TX? Aubrey, TX.. and honestly.. you CAN TRUST him to leave your horses! He won't take a young one for less then 3 months.. He says "30 days training is like pissing in a 55 gallon barrel. U have made a contribution, but you have a long way to go to fill it up."
Check him out on FB!
Edited by ACEINTHEHOLE 2014-08-06 1:12 PM
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-08-06 1:11 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-06 1:06 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-08-06 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-06 10:33 AM MS2011 - 2014-08-06 10:28 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-08-06 8:46 AM You don't want to put the head into position, you create energy from behind and capture it with your hands. The horse comes into your hands and onto the bit. And when they're learning, they can only collect a few strides at a time because it takes a lot of strength. A lot of people make the mistake of using draw reins or a German martingale to force the horse into a frame and call it collection, but it's not. It's only a frame without impulsion from the rear. This is a good description, I will add that to be collected and lifted thru the back....they can't have their head straight up in the air.
Lightly set your hands and push with your seat and legs into them. You've got to have a light feel, don't pull....if they feel heavy, add leg, not hand.
I'd really recommend riding with a trainer if you can to at least get a feel for it. It's tough to describe.
Trouble is finding a trainer around here. I refuse to leave my horses some place that I can't visit daily or every few days now. And, just finding a teacher is near impossible too. I'm not sure what to do.
I appreciate all of the responses though. I did learn a little :) Seriously, if you can go ride with Levi Olson. He is in Texas, so shouldn't be too far for you! This man can work wonders with you AND your horse! Do you know where he is in TX? Aubrey, TX.. and honestly.. you CAN TRUST him to leave your horses! He won't take a young one for less then 3 months.. He says "30 days training is like pissing in a 55 gallon barrel. U have made a contribution, but you have a long way to go to fill it up."
Check him out on FB!
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  Location: London Ontario | Think if it as if your horse were to walk into a wall, the head drop, shoulders become light, topline rounds, hind end comes underneath. You need impulsion, cadence and STRENGTH!!! You need to ride with your seat and legs, try to think as if you are scooping up your horses tummy! Good Luck!!!
Edited by MC1993 2014-08-06 1:25 PM
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| Oh come on ... we like the magic wand waving and making up nerdy things to make us feel better while trying to catch the elusive unicorn known as collection ...  | |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ...soooooo, there's no magic in collection? Not even a little??? :( | |
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| A reining trainer can help you with this if you have one near you. It is not something you can learn over night, but so worth all the effort and time to learn it. Never give up trying to learn it, it is the key to any atheltic event you will ever do on a horse. | |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | fabulous2006 - 2014-08-06 1:49 PM A reining trainer can help you with this if you have one near you. It is not something you can learn over night, but so worth all the effort and time to learn it. Never give up trying to learn it, it is the key to any atheltic event you will ever do on a horse.
I really need a trainer to teach me. That's what I'm learning through all of this. I definitely don't have the riding skills. Hmmmmm, now to find a reiner near by..... | |
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