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Location: California | I just bought a 10 year old stud. He's very calm and relaxed. Easy to handle. Very respectful. He's only bred 3 mares last year and then bred them back this year. I own two other geldings and want to know if they can be pastured together... Right now they have 13 acres to run on and both geldings are larger and can stand their own just fine. He's never been in with other horses from what I know. He can be ridden right next to them and he is just fine. Am I looking at a possibility or too risky? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | One to one... Horses buddy up in pairs.... 3 is an odd number.... in a group of 3 horses, one will always be left without a buddy... |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | There is always risk when putting any 2 horses together, more so with stallions even though it is natural. However we have mixed stallions and geldings and we live cover all our mares, have for 14 yrs. Today we got our 14yr old stallion out of the mares and put him in with 5 others. 4 of which are his gelded sons and a yearling stud colt. There was no squealling or kicking. Lots of sniffs and snorts and they walked off to pasture to graze. I have never seen horses pair off like high school girls, but they may. We move what we are riding around from the smaller horse pasture by the house, to or from, the bigger pasture to the west. We do this so often the horses really don't seem to care who comes or goes. Some buddy up, being all male, most don't. |
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Location: California | This stud did squeal and stomp when he got nose to nose with my other gelding. But I also know one of my geldings is very dominant as he was gelded late and the other won't push but he won't take getting pushed around. Both are quite a bit bigger than the stud as well. I'm sure there will be some arguing but that's as with all horses I feel |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | We have found they will squeal stomp and kick all day over a fence, but when in together, they sniff the flanks and move on about their business. We bought a 5yr old stud off the track and put him out with the older stud and geldings in Sep. He was way more aggressive than any other stud we have owned and even those 2 never made much fuss. We just keep mares far away. Out of sight out of mind. The track stud had to be pulled out and kept in a corral by himself around April (we breed late May-Aug 1st) because he would get pretty ornery.
Edited because I added some pics of the 2 studs. Neither ever actually put a mark on the other, it was all a show. The sorrel would throw these looks at the brown and he would go crazy rearing up. Then they would get a drink or eat together and go back to dancing around. All winter long they grazed side by side. These were the only 2 we ever had that made some noise and showed off for the camera.
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| Bender hates geldings......nearly killed a couple. I kept him with bred mares or alone. So it depends on the horse. |
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Location: California | Thanks everyone. Going to bump this up in case the morning crew has anything to add. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I think many (not all some horses are just unsociable jerks) the issues come when a stud has been separated his whole life from social interaction.
If he has had herd interaction before he will be fine. I am sure there will be initial pecking order scuffles, but the stud will most likely win that battle, they just have more agression. I had one I could turn out with a mixed herd and have no issues (not normal I know). He would keep the mares that were in in his "herd" and leave the ones that went out with the geldings. They all interacted well when they were out, he was only agressive toward the geldings when he was put up and they were close to the fence. |
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| I had a stud that had been stall kept the first 7 years of his life. When I got him he absolutely could not stand still when turned out. Best thing I did for him was to turn a 2 yr old gelding out with him. Settled him right down.
Over the years I turned him out with bred mares or colts/geldings. I was just careful to keep an eye on things for the first few hours. |
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Location: California | I am going to try putting them in together today... I am a little nervous as yesterday I rode him through a pasture of geldings and he got stupid for a second and kicked out. I got after him and he behaved after that. I think it may be a different story though when he is alone with them. I think it will be really beneficial if they can learn to get along. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-12 5:39 PM We have found they will squeal stomp and kick all day over a fence, but when in together, they sniff the flanks and move on about their business. We bought a 5yr old stud off the track and put him out with the older stud and geldings in Sep. He was way more aggressive than any other stud we have owned and even those 2 never made much fuss. We just keep mares far away. Out of sight out of mind. The track stud had to be pulled out and kept in a corral by himself around April (we breed late May-Aug 1st) because he would get pretty ornery.
Edited because I added some pics of the 2 studs. Neither ever actually put a mark on the other, it was all a show. The sorrel would throw these looks at the brown and he would go crazy rearing up. Then they would get a drink or eat together and go back to dancing around. All winter long they grazed side by side. These were the only 2 we ever had that made some noise and showed off for the camera.
Very nice pics!! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Whiteboy - 2014-08-14 11:07 AM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-12 5:39 PM We have found they will squeal stomp and kick all day over a fence, but when in together, they sniff the flanks and move on about their business. We bought a 5yr old stud off the track and put him out with the older stud and geldings in Sep. He was way more aggressive than any other stud we have owned and even those 2 never made much fuss. We just keep mares far away. Out of sight out of mind. The track stud had to be pulled out and kept in a corral by himself around April (we breed late May-Aug 1st) because he would get pretty ornery.
Edited because I added some pics of the 2 studs. Neither ever actually put a mark on the other, it was all a show. The sorrel would throw these looks at the brown and he would go crazy rearing up. Then they would get a drink or eat together and go back to dancing around. All winter long they grazed side by side. These were the only 2 we ever had that made some noise and showed off for the camera.
Very nice pics!!
I thought so too.... Just hanging out being horses...  |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | komet. - 2014-08-15 10:56 AM Whiteboy - 2014-08-14 11:07 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-12 5:39 PM We have found they will squeal stomp and kick all day over a fence, but when in together, they sniff the flanks and move on about their business. We bought a 5yr old stud off the track and put him out with the older stud and geldings in Sep. He was way more aggressive than any other stud we have owned and even those 2 never made much fuss. We just keep mares far away. Out of sight out of mind. The track stud had to be pulled out and kept in a corral by himself around April (we breed late May-Aug 1st) because he would get pretty ornery.
Edited because I added some pics of the 2 studs. Neither ever actually put a mark on the other, it was all a show. The sorrel would throw these looks at the brown and he would go crazy rearing up. Then they would get a drink or eat together and go back to dancing around. All winter long they grazed side by side. These were the only 2 we ever had that made some noise and showed off for the camera. Very nice pics!! I thought so too.... Just hanging out being horses...
Thank you, to both of you. The only year I ever thought to bring a camera out when we put them together. We've been down to one stallion for years now so when he goes back out with the geldings, of which most are his sons. They sniff noses and flanks and walk off together. Which is nice actually. Less stress for everyone. |
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Location: Washington | Our stud is 14 this year. He's spend most of his life by himself. He was a total jerk to the brown gelding in this photo with him below. We got a couple mares to breed last year and pasture bred. The mares taught him his manners. The mares went home and now these two are always together in the pasture. He's much happier with company.
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Location: California | I turnded him out. There were three large geldings with him. He went to squealing and kinda pawing out with the herd boss and the herd boss turned around and went to telling him what for. Studly quickly learned he isn't as tough as he thought. They went at it for about 5 minutes and then they were over it. The other two geldings aren't very bossy and just hung back. Studly took the most submissive of the other two and that is now his best buddy. He is a brat and messes with them and they all have some scuff marks but nothing bad. I am very glad I did it because I took them all and tied them to the trailer and studly stood there without making a sound or caring anymore. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | A few years back I bought a 12yr old stud horse that had been bred a good bit and was never socialized. I got him late spring and turned him out with 2 other geldings and he did fine and I didn't have any problems at all with him.
Then fall came, and I assume a little stronger heat cycle in my mares who were in the barn, and he broke 3 latches charging one of the geldings as I came through the hallway. We immediately gelded him and I tried to turn him back out with the same 2 geldings he'd been going out with and he dang near ripped one gelding's throat out. Never seen it coming and I think they were just fighting over some hay. After that, he only went out with the mares.
There's an experimental study video I posted several weeks back from somewhere in Europe - may be Sweeden - where they videoed like 15 stallions being turned out together for the first time. It's runny watching the handlers hauling hiney to get out of there when they turned them loose but the video is pretty interesting. They squealed and carried on and then a little while later they were all calm. Pretty interesting. |
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