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Location: oklahoma | Nevertooold - 2014-09-14 8:24 PM What does it mean when they say the NFL deactivated a player?
They can only keep so many on their active squad that suit up for games, I think, 50. So, they're deactivated and can only practice. I'm thinking too, that they can be picked up by another team. ( I may be wrong, lol
lets face it, athletes get by with a lot, even in the high school level. They can't spell or read some times, but come Friday night, they're magically electable. Been happening since the day one.... Nowadays, it's a multi million dollar 'job'. I'm not putting sports down by any means, my dad was the first 4 sport letterman here in our town, now it's a 6a school. We've all played, 4 generations now and have had our college paid for, but if it weren't for good judgement and butt bushings, lol..... Sports teaches a lot of life lessons but it's only as good as you make it. Anything in excess is bad for a soul. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | CurlyQ - 2014-09-14 9:08 PM Nevertooold - 2014-09-14 8:24 PM What does it mean when they say the NFL deactivated a player? They can only keep so many on their active squad that suit up for games, I think, 50. So, they're deactivated and can only practice. I'm thinking too, that they can be picked up by another team. ( I may be wrong, lol
lets face it, athletes get by with a lot, even in the high school level. They can't spell or read some times, but come Friday night, they're magically electable. Been happening since the day one.... Nowadays, it's a multi million dollar 'job'. I'm not putting sports down by any means, my dad was the first 4 sport letterman here in our town, now it's a 6a school. We've all played, 4 generations now and have had our college paid for, but if it weren't for good judgement and butt bushings, lol..... Sports teaches a lot of life lessons but it's only as good as you make it. Anything in excess is bad for a soul.
Thanks! After I asked I found this. It looks like another one bites the dust.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ron-rivera-doesn-t-hide-in-explaining-his-decision-to-sit-greg-hardy-amid-public-pressure-234453442-nfl.html
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | It is ever and ALWAYS about the money.
They let thugs and criminals keep right on playing unless there is some public outcry and they fear loss of revenue. Then they will make a show of a suspension or whatever sanctions...then in time when the short memory of the public allows...they bring the offender back into the game (a la Michael Vick).
Why has the POTUS gotten away with all the nefarious crap he has?? Again...money and power. It would take a huge outcry from the public to get anything done there...and there are way too many "Color conscious voters" out there who would likely riot and loot if "Their" president were to be removed or otherwise disgraced. That group is far more violent and vocal than those who oppose this POS POTUS. (So far anyway)
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Location: North Dakota | I feel that something many of us forget, whether we are "watching" a politician or a sports super star, they all have a history and roots and no amount of money and fame can change the "original" version of their life......(most of the time) | |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | football players are a dime a dozen... send the lawbreakers packing and pay someone else millions to do thier job.... everyone one of these guys are replaceable and they need to find that out. If you cant be a decent human being, repectable to others and a family role model then go flip burgers. your ten minutes of fame is over. | |
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Location: Sperry, OK | And here is my two cents (as stated above, it is free and you get what you pay for LOL! love it!)
What the NFL has done to RR is utter BULL! I don't condone what he did and am not saying he didn't need punishment, BUT! RR admitted to what he did, said he was sorry and it would not happen again, the NFL had already punished RR accordingly. RR thought he was through all of this, he had his punishment handed down, the season was about to start and he was on track to be back in the game. AFTER they punished him, they decided they needed to review the policies. Okay, fine, but RR should not have been affected by that, he should have been "grandfathered in" so to speak, becuase his incident was BEFORE this policy review/change, and he had already been punished. The new policy is 1st offense: 6 games, 2nd offense: suspension, possibly for life. Then AFTER the video surfaced .. all of a sudden the powers that be have a meeting (6 months after the fact!), and decided to suspend RR indefinately! WTH!!! So not only have they already punished him ONCE, but now they have suspeneded him.. THEY DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE POLICES THEY JUST SET IN PLACE!!! At the very most RR should have only been suspended for 6 games (this was his 1st offense).. I don't even agree with that, they should never have come back to him at all. The only reason they came back to him was simply because he was convicted in the court of public opinion off the video! So now is the policy subjective to is there evidence/video/witness or not.. well if no evidence can surface you get 6 games, but if there is a possibility of video, we will let you know when it comes to light? BS!!! It would be like a teen getting caught stealing smokes from the store, getting caught and the parents grounding him for 2 weeks, taking his car away and giving him a spanking for it. Then 6 months later, the store owner shows dad a video surveilance of the actual crime.. then the kid gets grounded for life, his license revoked for life and being banished from the town... seriously, it is not right and wouldn't happen.. same thing for RR! He had already been punished, it should have been left alone!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-15 9:29 AM And here is my two cents (as stated above, it is free and you get what you pay for LOL! love it!)
What the NFL has done to RR is utter BULL! I don't condone what he did and am not saying he didn't need punishment, BUT! RR admitted to what he did, said he was sorry and it would not happen again, the NFL had already punished RR accordingly. RR thought he was through all of this, he had his punishment handed down, the season was about to start and he was on track to be back in the game. AFTER they punished him, they decided they needed to review the policies. Okay, fine, but RR should not have been affected by that, he should have been "grandfathered in" so to speak, becuase his incident was BEFORE this policy review/change, and he had already been punished. The new policy is 1st offense: 6 games, 2nd offense: suspension, possibly for life. Then AFTER the video surfaced .. all of a sudden the powers that be have a meeting (6 months after the fact!), and decided to suspend RR indefinately! WTH!!! So not only have they already punished him ONCE, but now they have suspeneded him.. THEY DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE POLICES THEY JUST SET IN PLACE!!! At the very most RR should have only been suspended for 6 games (this was his 1st offense).. I don't even agree with that, they should never have come back to him at all. The only reason they came back to him was simply because he was convicted in the court of public opinion off the video! So now is the policy subjective to is there evidence/video/witness or not.. well if no evidence can surface you get 6 games, but if there is a possibility of video, we will let you know when it comes to light? BS!!! It would be like a teen getting caught stealing smokes from the store, getting caught and the parents grounding him for 2 weeks, taking his car away and giving him a spanking for it. Then 6 months later, the store owner shows dad a video surveilance of the actual crime.. then the kid gets grounded for life, his license revoked for life and being banished from the town... seriously, it is not right and wouldn't happen.. same thing for RR! He had already been punished, it should have been left alone!
I agree with this. The media is way too powerful, and these examples illustrate that fact. We already knew that RR hit the woman (after she hit him), but it was the visual of this powerful man hitting the woman that sparked the change in the punishment. Basically the media controls the strings to the puppets like Roger Godell. Also, media is behind the outcry that Godell must go. Why? Because "he lied to the American people!" In the grand scheme of things, the NFL is insignificant in our daily lives, compared to the President and Congress. So why is it that they get a pass when they "lie to the American people"?
I have another question. Is it OK for a woman to hit a man? What does she expect if she hits a man programmed to have a killer instinct for the NFL? Ice cream? Personally, I don't think a man should ever hit a woman, but how do you argue with people who say if you hit a man, then all bets are off? | |
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Location: Sperry, OK | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-15 10:08 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-15 9:29 AM And here is my two cents (as stated above, it is free and you get what you pay for LOL! love it!)
What the NFL has done to RR is utter BULL! I don't condone what he did and am not saying he didn't need punishment, BUT! RR admitted to what he did, said he was sorry and it would not happen again, the NFL had already punished RR accordingly. RR thought he was through all of this, he had his punishment handed down, the season was about to start and he was on track to be back in the game. AFTER they punished him, they decided they needed to review the policies. Okay, fine, but RR should not have been affected by that, he should have been "grandfathered in" so to speak, becuase his incident was BEFORE this policy review/change, and he had already been punished. The new policy is 1st offense: 6 games, 2nd offense: suspension, possibly for life. Then AFTER the video surfaced .. all of a sudden the powers that be have a meeting (6 months after the fact!), and decided to suspend RR indefinately! WTH!!! So not only have they already punished him ONCE, but now they have suspeneded him.. THEY DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE POLICES THEY JUST SET IN PLACE!!! At the very most RR should have only been suspended for 6 games (this was his 1st offense).. I don't even agree with that, they should never have come back to him at all. The only reason they came back to him was simply because he was convicted in the court of public opinion off the video! So now is the policy subjective to is there evidence/video/witness or not.. well if no evidence can surface you get 6 games, but if there is a possibility of video, we will let you know when it comes to light? BS!!! It would be like a teen getting caught stealing smokes from the store, getting caught and the parents grounding him for 2 weeks, taking his car away and giving him a spanking for it. Then 6 months later, the store owner shows dad a video surveilance of the actual crime.. then the kid gets grounded for life, his license revoked for life and being banished from the town... seriously, it is not right and wouldn't happen.. same thing for RR! He had already been punished, it should have been left alone!
I agree with this. The media is way too powerful, and these examples illustrate that fact. We already knew that RR hit the woman (after she hit him), but it was the visual of this powerful man hitting the woman that sparked the change in the punishment. Basically the media controls the strings to the puppets like Roger Godell. Also, media is behind the outcry that Godell must go. Why? Because "he lied to the American people!" In the grand scheme of things, the NFL is insignificant in our daily lives, compared to the President and Congress. So why is it that they get a pass when they "lie to the American people"?
I have another question. Is it OK for a woman to hit a man? What does she expect if she hits a man programmed to have a killer instinct for the NFL? Ice cream? Personally, I don't think a man should ever hit a woman, but how do you argue with people who say if you hit a man, then all bets are off?
What these football players are doing these days has NOTHING to do with the NFL.. it all goes back to how they were raised and the examples shown to them by their parents! I agree, the NFL needs to have guidelines and punishments for violence..on AND off the field, but the NFL trying to reprogram these guys sense of values is like you taking a 22 yo blown up/unbroke (by my definintion) barrel horse and starting from the gound up, all while still running him and expecting him to convert to your new teachings! Parents these days have got to realise, this starts with them, and they need to do their job!
Edited by ACEINTHEHOLE 2014-09-15 10:27 AM
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | jbhoot - 2014-09-14 10:24 AM geronabean - 2014-09-14 11:11 AM More kids need spankins. I agree but in this case it went way beyond a spanking it IMO it was assault. Look at the pictures of the kid it was way beyond what any four year old deserved.
I was beat as a child by a step mom. Just saying you usually have to be a tad unstable to leave bloody marks on your child.
As for the previous comment that the NFL needs cleaned up. AMEN! These ass hats are allowed to do whatever they please. Heaven help us of they ban some of the players. Monday night football just won't be the same...
Edited by wyoming barrel racer 2014-09-15 10:36 AM
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Why shouldn’t these “bullies” feel the repercussions of their actions? The NFL is an EMPLOYER who can do whatever they want to or for their “employees”. As an EMPLOYER they can fire their a$$ for felony battery to a woman or child or for whatever reason. These men have a responsibility to their EMPLOYER to behave themselves in ways that do not damage their teams, the sport or the willingness of fans to shell out a lot of money that contributes to outrageous salaries that these players could earn nowhere else.
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| A little OT here but I had a guy at work tell me I should "feel sorry" for Michael Vick as well as a lot of the pros because they came from the ghetto, poor and now they are "thrown" in the spotlight and don't know how to handle it. I don't care, I despise the man and I feel like there is NO excuse for acting like an animal in the name of money! | |
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Location: The edge of no where | NJJ - 2014-09-15 10:53 AM Why shouldn’t these “bullies” feel the repercussions of their actions? The NFL is an EMPLOYER who can do whatever they want to or for their “employees”. As an EMPLOYER they can fire their a$$ for felony battery to a woman or child or for whatever reason. These men have a responsibility to their EMPLOYER to behave themselves in ways that do not damage their teams, the sport or the willingness of fans to shell out a lot of money that contributes to outrageous salaries that these players could earn nowhere else.
This ^^ is very well put.
I do blame the NFL for putting up with this kind of behavior and not having repercussions for it.
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | I'm curious to see how much the mother of the Peterson child is leading him on some of what he is saying to the authorities. Some of what is being reported I can't see a 4 year old saying it. | |
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Location: oklahoma | docschic - 2014-09-15 4:38 PM I'm curious to see how much the mother of the Peterson child is leading him on some of what he is saying to the authorities. Some of what is being reported I can't see a 4 year old saying it.
It happened in May, including the dr. Visit. Idk if things proceed this slow in other alledged child abuse cases or just when you're a millionaire ball player? I've always liked A.D. And thought he was a stand up guy, plus, he's from Oklahoma , but if he did leave those bloody welts, he deserves the maximum penalty by law. Ray Rice was disciplined, although IMO, not severly enough the first time but I think it shouldn't have been reversed. I do think that any abuse like these purported cases make men cowards that abuse women and children. Idk what really went on with AD, seems like we get detoured after a few days when our priority should be ISIS, unemployment and everyday pressing problems because unfortunately abuse happens every minute of everyday. | |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | So we were discussing this at lunch today and one co-worker brought up a very good point. When is someone going to teach A.P birth control methods because he apparently does not know what condom is. He has how many kids by different mothers??? What is going to happen when he is done with football and blows all his $$$ yet still has to take care of all these kids? | |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Birth Control? What is that? To these women who keep having these babies with NFL, NBA etc players - to me - it is for money only. (Meaning the multiple partners).
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Location: Texas | My husband said almost the EXACT same thing last night! Why are they getting fined/suspended/fired when a court has yet to decide them guilty?
First of all, the way I see it is the NFL is an employer just like anything else and they can fire at will. With Ray Rice -- did you watch that video? First of all, he SPIT AT HER as she was walking by him to get on the elevator. I can't even imagine the emotions being spit at would raise up inside me. Then HE got in HER face first on the elevator and she stood up for herself. As I was watching the video I literally thought in my mind what I would do and she then did exactly that...then he stone cold KNOCKED HER OUT. And I mean stone cold. No emotion as he dragged her halfway off the elevator. Yes, she still married him but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about him getting suspended. The NFL is a business and I'm sure they don't want to become like the NBA with a negative shade. You bring THAT MUCH negative attention to any organization and you have a seriously good chance of getting fired.
Then you have Peterson. I'm sorry but I have a child that age. I can't imagine EVER going that far EVER. We spank our kids but that is not spanking. And again, you have 1. pictures and 2. admission by Peterson which equals a mountain of negative publicity right on the heels of Rice.
If you had a video of a person raping/murdering another person and they haven't been prosecuted *yet*, it's not like everyone would hold their opinions until the courts made its decision. The digital age is much different.
Edited by bocephus's mama 2014-09-17 8:11 AM
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Location: The edge of no where | I don't see the correlation between the court findings and punishment from the NFL..... why do you have to be found guilty in a court of law to be banned from the NFL? Any other employer can and probably will fire you for behavior that brings unwanted attention to them. I'm not a football fan, but the way that they are now treating Rice and Peterson makes me a bit happier. I wish they would come down harder on more players, it would do a lot to clean the league up and maybe let players know that they will be held to a certain standard of accountability for their actions.
Playing football is not a right, it's a priviledge....and can be taken away.
I agree with spanking kids, but what AP did went so far beyond acceptable behavior...toss him out!
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Big sponsors like Anheuser-Busch, McDonalds and Campbell's are watching them closely - this might cause them to have to clean up their act. | |
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