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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | When we started competing we wrapped everything!!! Because that's what everyone did. Years later I have quit wrapping. While I love to see a horse come out of it's trailer all wrapped up in clean quilts and wraps with a matching sheet or blanket, I just can't stand the thought of all the heat being held in by those wraps. I've often wondered how necessary are those wraps? How many times have they saved a horses leg from injury? How many times has a horse been carefully wrapped up to haul to a show only to b scratched because he all of the sudden was lame or his leg was puffy/swollen? Out of my 20-ish years of horses I've only had two that had balance/standing issues in the trailer. I hauled them backwards and they never stumbled or fell down again. I like to look at wraps when a horse comes off the trailer to see if there are any marks on the wraps indicating that the horse may have "knicked" itself with another leg while hauling. The few times I've seen something that may have been a "knick" it was so light that it didn't appear that it would have done any harm. I am in NO WAY bashing wraps or those who wrap, more less just opening a (POLITE) discussion to hear and maybe even see others thoughts, opinions, views, and reasonings. |
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 Born not Made
Posts: 2931
       Location: North Dakota | I use shipping boots for cheap insurance against cuts and scrapes.
The same reason that I use sport boots for cheap insurance against flesh damage when I am running barrels.
Plus the shipping boots do double-duty of keeping flies off their legs in the trailer. However, I never have found any shipping boots that I like, so I make my own.
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 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
     Location: North Dakota | I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury. |
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 Expert
Posts: 1432
      Location: Never in one place long | I am the same as you, I stopped wrapping a LONG time ago unless I have reason to believe anothers horse will kick at mine. I have never had any issues since I stopped wrapping and it saved me a lot of work over the years, my horses have always been sound. |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | DLV - 2014-09-23 3:22 PM
I am the same as you, I stopped wrapping a LONG time ago unless I have reason to believe anothers horse will kick at mine. I have never had any issues since I stopped wrapping and it saved me a lot of work over the years, my horses have always been sound.
I will admit I will wrap one if they are loaded in a stock trailer with no dividers, for that exact reason. You cram horses together like that and someone is bound to get moody. A full power kick is totally possible in this situation. |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM
I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury.Β
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool? |
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  More bootie than waist!
Posts: 18425
          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Charmayne James told me long ago that she didn't recommend wrapping because they heat up. I don't want them hot so nothing on their legs for me. |
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 Quack Quack Woodle Woodle
Posts: 7905
       Location: Texas | I stopped for a while but I have one that comes out of the trailer banged up just about every time. I have no idea what he does... the last straw for me was putting him in the front hole of a slant trailer ALONE... got to the barrel race and his front left leg had bloody scrapes all down the side and he had another spot on top of his butt. He's a friggin freak lol. He gets BOT quick wraps just about every where we go now. Not to mention the way they suck the puffy right out of his ankles lol. |
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 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
     Location: North Dakota | BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 3:31 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool?
Yes you want the legs to feel tight and cool but they need to be warmed up before you compete in order to avoid an injury. A warm to the touch and/or puffy tendon at rest means there is possibly an injury. You do not want to keep heat on the legs for long periods of time but my horses stay pretty cool under their BOT wraps. Anything like a neoprene sport boots goes on right before I run and comes off as soon as I leave the arena. |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:55 PM
BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 3:31 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury.Β Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool?
Yes you want the legs to feel tight and cool but they need to be warmed up before you compete in order to avoid an injury. A warm to the touch and/or puffy tendon at rest means there is possibly an injury. You do not want to keep heat on the legs for long periods of time but my horses stay pretty cool under their BOT wraps. Anything like a neoprene sport boots goes on right before I run and comes off as soon as I leave the arena.Β
Are you using the polos or the quick wraps? |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | fifteenflat - 2014-09-23 3:40 PM
I stopped for a while but I have one that comes out of the trailer banged up just about every time. Β I have no idea what he does... the last straw for me was putting him in the front hole of a slant trailer ALONE... got to the barrel race and his front left leg had bloody scrapes all down the side and he had another spot on top of his butt. Β He's a friggin freak lol. Β He gets BOT quick wraps just about every where we go now. Β Not to mention the way they suck the puffy right out of his ankles lol.
Poor guy! Sounds like he could use some bubble wrap lol |
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 Ms. Poutability
Posts: 2362
      Location: In my own world | I've always wondered why race horses are hauled with full wraps and padded halters? I don't wrap mine. But I've only been hauling one horse |
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 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
     Location: North Dakota | BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 4:58 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:55 PM BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 3:31 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool? Yes you want the legs to feel tight and cool but they need to be warmed up before you compete in order to avoid an injury. A warm to the touch and/or puffy tendon at rest means there is possibly an injury. You do not want to keep heat on the legs for long periods of time but my horses stay pretty cool under their BOT wraps. Anything like a neoprene sport boots goes on right before I run and comes off as soon as I leave the arena. Are you using the polos or the quick wraps?
Quickwraps |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
Posts: 1691
      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 5:45 PM
BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 4:58 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:55 PM BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 3:31 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury.Β Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool? Yes you want the legs to feel tight and cool but they need to be warmed up before you compete in order to avoid an injury. A warm to the touch and/or puffy tendon at rest means there is possibly an injury. You do not want to keep heat on the legs for long periods of time but my horses stay pretty cool under their BOT wraps. Anything like a neoprene sport boots goes on right before I run and comes off as soon as I leave the arena.Β Are you using the polos or the quick wraps?
Β Quickwraps
Are they cooler for the horse than other brands? |
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 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
     Location: North Dakota | BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 9:16 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 5:45 PM BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 4:58 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:55 PM BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 3:31 PM Just Bring It - 2014-09-23 3:19 PM I use BOT quickwraps to keep any swelling down from standing in the trailer for hours or even on short trips in hopes that it will help the tendons and ligaments warm up quicker in order to avoid an injury. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want them tight and cool? Yes you want the legs to feel tight and cool but they need to be warmed up before you compete in order to avoid an injury. A warm to the touch and/or puffy tendon at rest means there is possibly an injury. You do not want to keep heat on the legs for long periods of time but my horses stay pretty cool under their BOT wraps. Anything like a neoprene sport boots goes on right before I run and comes off as soon as I leave the arena. Are you using the polos or the quick wraps? Quickwraps Are they cooler for the horse than other brands?
The ceramic in them reflects the horse's own body warmth and helps decrease swelling and windpuffs similar to a poultice but when I pull them off my horse's legs never feel hot. They just feel nice and tight. |
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 I Chore in Chucks
Posts: 2882
        Location: MD | I also wrapped my horses up like fine china. I saw everyone else do it and followed mindlessly. I realized that my horses do everything together, I don't haul with other people, they haul so quietly and I haul so little that wrapping them head to toe is so silly. I feel differently if it's super buggy out or very cold with the wind chill etc. or if for some crazy reason I haul with a horse I'm unfamiliar with (which probably will never happen)
knock on wood, I haven't had anything more than some puffy legs after a very long haul. And I do think all horses look great with the quilts and sheets and all primped, mine usually come off the trailer with their bedding still in their hair and hay hanging out of their mouths  |
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I just read the headlines
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| I used to wrap religiously. I used some leg wraps made out of hospital felt. I hauled in the hot South Texas heat and never did my horse come out of the trailer with hot legs. I also used mineral ice or EPF 5 when I could find it. He never stocked up or swelled up. He never had any leg/tendon problems, but that was because of his correctness. I would always hose each leg 10 minutes after every ride and as soon as he got out of the trailer, I took his wraps off and walked him around for about 10 minutes. After his run, I would wrap him back up and leave them on for 12 hours per my trainer's instructions. Back then I was rodeoing and most of his runs were at night. But the haul to the rodeo was always during the heat of the day because I usually had a 3-4 hour haul. We spent a lot of money on that wonderful horse and I did anything I could to keep him feeling good. He ran until he was 21 and never did I waiver. However later in life I am not that diligent. I am not a fan of the wrap material nowdays either. |
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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
Posts: 9586
       Location: Phoenix | Too much work, too hot, they fall down/off at some point anyways...I've never had any issues leaving the horses naked....even on a 1600 trek. |
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