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| Last night when I got finished exercising my gelding,i noticed after we got back to the barn where there were lights that he was bleeding from both his nostrils and he had never done this before,he was not coughing or acting strange.I cleaned his nose,hosed him off,fed and he ate everything.After watching him most of the night there was no sign of any bleeding and this morning he seem to be fine so if any could give some ideas as to what could be going on sure would be grateful.  |
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| He could just be bleeding from his nasal cavity, a burst vessel etc. or he could be a "bleeder" generic term for EIPH- exercised induced pulmonary hemorrhage- bleeding from his lungs. A lot of horses have this condition. He needs to be scoped by a vet to see what is going on. It can be managed and he can continue to work for you. |
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| Before I saw he was bleeding he made some sounds like he was belching,now he wasn't doing it constantly,just about twice.
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| I have a bleeder and he has nover coughed or made noises so no help here. Lots of bleeders will cough as the blood gets in their lungs.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-10-18 2:51 PM
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| Your horse has EIPH - excercise induced pulmonary hemmorage (he's a bleeder). Go the the vet and have them do a BAL wash, your vet will give you information on how to manage bleeding. |
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| W hy did he start this so late in life?He is 15 yrs old and up till now he was fine.
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Location: Whitney, NE | There could be a number if reasons.
1. A hot, humid environment, or a really dusty environment, or some allergen in the air.
2. It's possible he has been a bleeder for some time, as not all horses bleed out their nose every time.
3. He may have had a true "nosebleed" where it has nothing to do with his lungs at all.
It's really too tough to say what happened without having the BAL done and seeing what is and is not in his lungs. If he is a horse you like and would like to keep running successfully, the BAL is really the only option for choosing a treatment. Also, there's always the possibility it was a fluke, had nothing to do with his lungs, and therefore it would be wasting your money to "treat" him blindly. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Running B - 2014-10-19 12:16 AM W hy did he start this so late in life?He is 15 yrs old and up till now he was fine.
If he has EIPH, then don't assume he just started at age 15. There's a good chance that he has had it all along, just not bad enough to bleed externally.
Also, don't assume he has EIPH. You need to get him vetted either way to be sure. Allergies can in fact cause a horse to bleed as well. But EIPH is NOT something you want to play around with so I would highly recommend seeing your vet.
If you cannot scope him immediately after a strenous workout, then I also will suggest the BAL and trach wash. I prefer those anyways. |
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| Thanks to everyone who has been gracious enough to answer my questions.I will get him to the vet. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Running B - 2014-10-19 4:19 PM Thanks to everyone who has been gracious enough to answer my questions.I will get him to the vet.
If you use the search option on here, using terms "bleeder", "cough", "EIPH", you will come across some super good threads too! |
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| Ok,thanks again to all who posted and answered my questions gave such great advice and helped me in more ways than you know.I did take him to the vet and had him scoped and he was just fine,Thank God,turns out allergies and his blood vessels in nose bursted so now on meds. |
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Location: SE KS | So did he have you put him on an antibiotic?
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