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FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice. 
Absolutely not. I have a right to ride my horse on a public street. Had the dogs NOT come under the fence, charged me, and bit my horses, nothing would have happened. However, they DID, ( 3 pit bulls and a queensland BTW) come after my horses so we took care of it. | |
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| Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 7:57 AM
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Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM
FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice.
Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings.
If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride.
Unfortunately I live at the end of a long dirt road. I have to ride down it to get to the plowed field I exercise my horses in. EVERYONE on my street has dogs.. and none of them get out but this one place. I exhausted animal control ( THey said they couldnt do anything unless the dogs were off property and would not meet me as I rode down the street). They did get out several times and climb over shorter fences to harm other peoples dogs. And they attacked a couple goats at another property). I'm not changing where I ride because of uncontrolled dogs. I did anticipate retaliation so thats why I had the sheriff do it. | |
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Location: SE KS | FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 10:10 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 7:57 AM
barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM
FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice.
Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings.
If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride.
Unfortunately I live at the end of a long dirt road. I have to ride down it to get to the plowed field I exercise my horses in. EVERYONE on my street has dogs.. and none of them get out but this one place. I exhausted animal control ( THey said they couldnt do anything unless the dogs were off property and would not meet me as I rode down the street ). They did get out several times and climb over shorter fences to harm other peoples dogs. And they attacked a couple goats at another property ). I'm not changing where I ride because of uncontrolled dogs. I did anticipate retaliation so thats why I had the sheriff do it.
Don't blame you a bit!!!! Nuisance animals the owners did nothing about, sounds like you exhausted all resources available. I, too would not change where I rode, & I will remember your solution in case I need it!!!
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Location: California | I definitely say contact animal control. If this was an isolated incident I would have done what you did and spoke to the owner.
It happened AGAIN therefor she isn't taking care of her responsibility as a dog owner and putting your dogs and cats at risk as well as damaging your property.
I live in the middle of nowhere , and no one has fenced yards but we put one up acknowleding that I have dogs who are NOT good with other animals . It is easy to contain an animal if you want to put in the effort . I have 6foot fencing with privacy lattice and all 3 gates that open are locked with a key lock. No dogs in, no dogs out, no accidents . This lady has no excuse for letting her dogs run at large and your cat should be able to sunbathe on your property without being ran up a tree.
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Location: Central Texas | Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:57 AM
barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM
FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice.
Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings.
If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride.
I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to hurt an animal just because they have ignorant and uncaring owners. I would find another riding option. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is just mine. | |
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Location: Oregon | I would come uncorked if a dog was chasing ANY of my animals - cats, dogs, horses - whatever. And, I would probably just fix the fence myself so as to not take any chances of my animals getting hurt. Sorry you have that neighbor. | |
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| ampratt - 2014-12-04 10:23 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:57 AM
barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM
FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice.
Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings.
If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride.
I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to hurt an animal just because they have ignorant and uncaring owners. I would find another riding option. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is just mine.
You absolutely are correct about having your own opinion and I fully respect it. But just picture your 1D, $50,000 horse being injured, possibly career ending, in the hind end because of an uncontrolled pit bull ( Or any dog for that matter, I have seen awesome pit bulls, these just happened to not be so awesome). That might change your opinion.. If it was a tiny chewawa I would not have gone to that extreme. | |
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Location: La Frontera | I have the same situation but with cattle. Arizona is a fence out state and we have a fence. The neighbors cattle have destroyed the fence and he refused to fix it. After we called many many times asking that he fix it, we finally offered to split the cost and labor to fix the fence. The answer was still no. We ended up leaving a gate on our property open to the rest of the world and of course the cattle got out and annoyed other (apparently more well to do) neighbors which got some action. The owner of the property finally agreed to split costs and labor to fix the fence.
You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. Tell the neighbor you'll pay for half of the improved fence repairs because obviously something more sturdy will need to be built to keep her dogs from tearing down the fence again. If she refuses, let her dogs out of your backyard. Also make her pay for the repairs and then you reimburse her, not the other way around. You won't see a penny from her that way. | |
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Location: Mansfield, Tx | Fix the fence... Run a couple strans of HOT WIRE along her side of the fence down low...
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| pellet gun. quiet and effective. My neighbors dog would chase my horses, so I pulled out the pellet gun. Shot the dog twice and never came back. Neighbor never knew about the situation. | |
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Location: South Central Florida | I am lucky, I have the WORLDS BEST NEIGHBORS!!! I live out in the woods, but I do have a family half mile north and another south.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but we do maintain GOOD fences. I assume that all the fences are mine (even though the border other property). That way I don't feel bad about fixing it.
Living next door to someone your at war with is miserible no matter what starts it. She could be a lousey person, or a person going through a tough time.
THIS time, I would fix the fence, and possibly hot wire it like someone mentioned. Protect my animals and try not to go to war for something. I might even fix it a couple times before things got difficult.
Also remember your the "new kid". I know you own it, but your still the new person on the block. Maybe give them a chance to get themselves together. But I would protect my animals first, and let hers out as suggested if necessary.
Just my opinion.
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| ampratt - 2014-12-04 12:23 PM Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:57 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff. So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice. Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings. If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride. I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to hurt an animal just because they have ignorant and uncaring owners. I would find another riding option. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is just mine.
So what would You think if, 1: you didn't know about those dogs getting out? 2:you are riding with yo child or grandmother the dogs Spook the horses and now you have a dead grandma or child?
i'm thinking the dogs aren"t going to change shoot um if they chase you. | |
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| suzy2qtee - 2014-12-04 6:10 PM
ampratt - 2014-12-04 12:23 PM Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:57 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff. So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice. Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings. If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride. I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to hurt an animal just because they have ignorant and uncaring owners. I would find another riding option. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is just mine.
i'm thinking the dogs aren"t going to change shoot um if they chase you.
Horses are unpredictable and can spook at anything that can cause what you are saying.
As to the op I would check the laws of your community before starting a war. You said it is her fence to fix, have you verified this with the city/county?
Also you said you have never met this neighbour, and you have been there approx 4 months and she has never came to your door to introduce herself. It is no excuse, you could have done the neighbourly thing and went to her residence to introduce herself.
Personally the second time I would have removed her dog from my property fixed the fence, filled the hole in and continued on with daily activities.
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Location: Texas | when we lived in the city limits and had dogs terrorizing us or our animals and the owners didnt care. My husband would load them up, take them to the pound, and say he found them and give the general area so there was no retaliation. They would go get them a couple of times but eventually they got tired of paying to get them out. That is what i was told anyway. Point is eventually the dogs didnt come back and it wasnt because we let them out to roam and get hit by a car. They were either adopted or euthanized... which i think is better then getting hit by a car or killed/injured by another dog.I do feel your pain though. Seems i can never get neighbors that care about their dogs or what they are destroying. | |
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Location: Texas | I would fix the fence... If they tear up the new one, You don't need to call animal control... just load them up and take them there, but be sure to let her know that is what will happen the next time they come over.
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 1:00 PM
ampratt - 2014-12-04 10:23 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:57 AM
barrelracr131 - 2014-12-04 9:55 AM
Gunner11 - 2014-12-04 9:48 AM
FLITASTIC - 2014-12-04 9:44 AM
My situation was a little different, I would ride my horses by my neighbors house on a public dirt road and their dogs would crawl under fence and would chase horses and bite at their hind legs. Several warnings, animal control etc. I was told if my livestock was in danger I had a right to shoot. SInce I am a good shot, but I don't like to shoot in a neighborhood I invited a Sheriff friend of mine on a trail ride one day. He was a lot better shot than I was and took care of business. You do have a right to defend your property , especially if the cat was in danger. But I would check with local law enforcement first. That is something I refuse to tolerate. I used own a mule and he would just kill them if if they tried that type of stuff.
So you went on a ride, knowing you were going to bait the dogs to shoot them? Nice.
Maybe the dogs should have been contained in the first place, especially after getting animal control involved and giving the owners several warnings.
If a dog isn't on my property, I'm not going to shoot it. I'd rather find a different place to ride.
I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to hurt an animal just because they have ignorant and uncaring owners. I would find another riding option. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, this is just mine.
You absolutely are correct about having your own opinion and I fully respect it. But just picture your 1D, $50,000 horse being injured, possibly career ending, in the hind end because of an uncontrolled pit bull ( Or any dog for that matter, I have seen awesome pit bulls, these just happened to not be so awesome ). That might change your opinion.. If it was a tiny chewawa I would not have gone to that extreme.
It sure might change my opinion but I also would not take my 1D 50000.00 horse (or any of my animals) anywhere there was a possibility of it being chased or injured. I understand you did what you felt you needed to do. | |
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