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Location: Florida.. | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-21 2:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-12-21 12:53 PM what are you feeding her ? what is she getting in Lbs and calories.? some feeds are light and 3 qts isnt but 3 lbs so 6 lbs a day for a horse to gain or maintain to some horses isnt enough.. imho..
also you can add soaked alfalfa pellets or cubes and beet pulp to help. 3qts is 2.5lbs of the Dumor feed she is on. Just a lot of volume scares me after losing the other mare to colic. I thought about adding alfalfa pellets and/or beet pulp but they are not high in fat so add 2 cups alfalfa pellets along with the oil? I have no problem adding protein to her. I just would like to keep the added fat to her diet though I'm not sure changing oils was a good idea.... I tried giving her coconut oil- that was a no go. Cant get her to eat it. ETA: https://www.smartpakequine.com/cocosoya-ultra-sp--3525pb Whatcha think?
oh it is the lowest end of purina..get a low Protein high fat better quality grain.
and it says feed 6 lbs or more and you are feeding 5.. also she doesnt need 14 percent protein.. she needs fat
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Location: Phoenix | Try Rnew Gold. Coconut meal, flax and rice bran. It's a concentraed feed with at least 15% fat content. You feed 1/2 to 1.5 lbs a day. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cheryl makofka - 2014-12-21 6:00 PM If the horse needs her teeth done, I would quit sinking money into feed and fix the teeth. A horse with bad teeth cannot chew their feed properly therefore are not getting the maximum nutrients from the feed.
^^^^THIS.....and you admittedly are NOT feeding the recommended amount of feed. Most of these companies have run tests, etc to "balance" their feed for the daily input. If you think it is too much "volume", feed it over three feedings instead of two. |
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| NJJ - 2014-12-21 7:32 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-12-21 6:00 PM If the horse needs her teeth done, I would quit sinking money into feed and fix the teeth. A horse with bad teeth cannot chew their feed properly therefore are not getting the maximum nutrients from the feed.
^^^^THIS.....and you admittedly are NOT feeding the recommended amount of feed. Most of these companies have run tests, etc to "balance" their feed for the daily input. If you think it is too much "volume", feed it over three feedings instead of two.
I feel like a blonde. This never even crossed my mind.... That is a wonderful idea lol.
I do plan on switching all of my horses to Renew. Its just more cost effective when you get down to it. BUT I have to feed what I have until I run out lol I went ahead and bumped her grain up tonight and gave her half of the daily recommended amount for a horse her size. It seemed like a ton of grain but she ate it all to my surprise.
Thanks everyone!
I will be adjusting my feed regimen for sure AND getting her teeth taken care of. |
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Location: Florida.. | a horse can handle up to 5 lbs per "ONE" feeding..and if you add water if helps get water to gut |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-21 7:39 PM NJJ - 2014-12-21 7:32 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-12-21 6:00 PM If the horse needs her teeth done, I would quit sinking money into feed and fix the teeth. A horse with bad teeth cannot chew their feed properly therefore are not getting the maximum nutrients from the feed. ^^^^THIS.....and you admittedly are NOT feeding the recommended amount of feed. Most of these companies have run tests, etc to "balance" their feed for the daily input. If you think it is too much "volume", feed it over three feedings instead of two. I feel like a blonde. This never even crossed my mind.... That is a wonderful idea lol. I do plan on switching all of my horses to Renew. Its just more cost effective when you get down to it. BUT I have to feed what I have until I run out lol I went ahead and bumped her grain up tonight and gave her half of the daily recommended amount for a horse her size. It seemed like a ton of grain but she ate it all to my surprise. Thanks everyone! I will be adjusting my feed regimen for sure AND getting her teeth taken care of.
Another hint is to actually weigh your feed...... a lot of people assume that every company's feed weighs the same. If you are using a scoop, it may hold more or less in pounds depending on the company. |
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Location: Willows, CA | As said above, the best money you can spend in this horses diet is to fix her teeth. This is preventing proper function of her digestive system. Nothing works if the teeth are not right. As to concentrates, the idea that most feed companies run extensive testing to establish feed rates is not accurate. They have a warehouse full of grain, and the more they can get you to put in your horse, the more money they make. If you insist on feeding more than three pounds of any concentrate feed, you need to do it in more than two feedings. Fix the teeth, and feed less in more feedings, and eliminate refined oils, and your mare will bloom. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Definitely teeth first and then some THE Muscle Mass. Will help her put on weight with all the amino acids, vitmains, electrolytes, herbs and antioxidants she will need to be healthy and happy. And since it is 20% off this month it is a great time to try.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I agree with what the others are saying, get those teeth fixed on your mare and then you should start seeing a different in her looks once she can eat her feed and hay right. But make sure she is getting the right amount of feed and hay. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | teeth, and rule out ulcers! i have on of my hard keeper arabian we just purchased about 2 months ago on strategy(which is what she was already on but she was stalled 24/7:( going to switch her eventually but now im suspecting she had ulcers due to stalling, travel, training and a new envoirment) we slowly added alfalfa, good quality grass hay, flax seed oil, probiotics, aloe juice and l lysine for topline and more inportantly 24/7 Turn Out! and she is flurishing!she is putting on weight, and muscle. its amazing what good ole grass/ forage will do if you have it.
my personal horses get 24/7 turnout, grass hay, pellets, flax oil, probiotics, and lysine. and they have bloomed! |
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| imturnin3 - 2014-12-24 8:14 AM
teeth, and rule out ulcers! i have on of my hard keeper arabian we just purchased about 2 months ago on strategy(which is what she was already on but she was stalled 24/7:( going to switch her eventually but now im suspecting she had ulcers due to stalling, travel, training and a new envoirment) we slowly added alfalfa, good quality grass hay, flax seed oil, probiotics, aloe juice and l lysine for topline and more inportantly 24/7 Turn Out! and she is flurishing!she is putting on weight, and muscle. its amazing what good ole grass/ forage will do if you have it.
my personal horses get 24/7 turnout, grass hay, pellets, flax oil, probiotics, and lysine. and they have bloomed!
Thank you. Yeah I put her on ulcer stuff 2 days ago, have had her on lysine for a month (big difference. Helped a lot) and am using up the rest of my oil and putting her on the powdered coco soya with probios in it. I also upped her grain to 8lbs a day. She gets free choice Bermuda. Teeth are floated as of this am and she is hanging out eating prairie grass hay at work with me. |
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