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Location: Where I am happiest | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-28 6:20 PM
NJJ - 2014-12-28 6:01 PM
If I am looking at a horse, I don't want it to be any further back than "grand".......Â
I have a question for you : ) What about if the horse you are looking at is a great-grandget BUT out of one of the top sons/daughters of that horse? Like great-grandget of BA75 but a grandget of one of the top sons/daughters of him. Would that influence you either way or still a no-no?
Sorry I'm not meaning to pry at anyone or make anyone angry, I'm just exploring horse-people's thought process on pedigrees : )
For example (if you like OTMR ) looking at a horse that is a OTMR great-grandget but its grandsire and sire are both major producers and performers.
Under that pretense.... lets say Slick By Design. He's by Designer Red, by OTMR. In that case, Slick By Design is big enough in his own right the horse is BY Slick By Design. You wouldn't say he goes back to OTMR. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Well then Slick by Design is too deluted to because he has On The Money Red 3 generations back. I just can't believe you all think that if a horse is not a direct son or daughter of a big name horse that they are not worth looking at. Maybe it just takes someone to take the horse out and prove it. What good is any breeding program if the ofspring keeps getting worse in everyones minds because they all eventually become grandget of somebody. |
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Location: Here | BS Hauler - 2014-12-29 11:34 AM Well then Slick by Design is too deluted to because he has On The Money Red 3 generations back. I just can't believe you all think that if a horse is not a direct son or daughter of a big name horse that they are not worth looking at. Maybe it just takes someone to take the horse out and prove it. What good is any breeding program if the ofspring keeps getting worse in everyones minds because they all eventually become grandget of somebody.
He is not diluted as he has proven himself to stand on his own merit |
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Location: Kentucky | SG. - 2014-12-29 12:39 PM BS Hauler - 2014-12-29 11:34 AM Well then Slick by Design is too deluted to because he has On The Money Red 3 generations back. I just can't believe you all think that if a horse is not a direct son or daughter of a big name horse that they are not worth looking at. Maybe it just takes someone to take the horse out and prove it. What good is any breeding program if the ofspring keeps getting worse in everyones minds because they all eventually become grandget of somebody. He is not diluted as he has proven himself to stand on his own merit
Exactly. If I had a colt by SBD, I wouldn't say he is OTMR bred... I would say he is SBD bred.
One of the announcers at the NFR said one of the horses running was Dash For Cash bred. That doesn't mean much to me since DFC is so far back on a lot of papers. |
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Who Wants to Trade?
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| I say what I have, exactly. Example: Filly by Chasin Firewater out of a Dashing Val mare. I don't say: Firewater Flit and Dfc bred.
I usually list sire then the broodmare sire. I'll also occasionally list mare accomplishments. I don't list stallion accomplishments because I try to breed to stallions people know already. So, as another example: 3yo filly by Bigtime Favorite out of graded stakes placed Streakin La Jolla mare. |
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| The clock is all that matters 
Remember this is racing... |
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Location: Kentucky | Itsme - 2014-12-29 1:17 PM The clock is all that matters Remember this is racing...
For breeders, verbage and bloodlines are money. |
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Location: NM...the Land of Manana | I think people say that mostly when there is not a big, recognizable name closer up on their papers. I think it is essentially just a point of reference for people to get some idea of what type of breeding is in the pedigree. |
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Location: Here | Lightfoot - 2014-12-29 12:32 PM
I think people say that mostly when there is not a big, recognizable name closer up on their papers. I think it is essentially just a point of reference for people to get some idea of what type of breeding is in the pedigree. Â
I can see that but they don't realize they are turning off buyers by saving for example dtf filly for sale When said filly is 4Th generation dtf They say 4th generation dtf Or better yet tell us what dam and sire and reference what they are out of Jmho |
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