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| Ok I have a gelding that Loves to run barrels. He loves to run so much that he doesn't like to stop after our runs lol he is an automatic horse and does NOT need any rate at the barrels what so ever. You send to the barrel make a light tap and he turns. My issue is stopping him in the alley way! Me and mom ride him and it's even harder for her to stop him! I'm afraid we will hurt someone, hisself, or one of us! Please help!!! I have attached two pictures!
The combo bit is what my mom runs him in and I run him in the Charmayne James bit!
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Location: Texas | Long shank hack like 7"-9"... |
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| You need to teach the horse to stop. My OTT would not stop and I taught him to stop. I run him in a SHORT shank Ed Wright and he stops fine. As a matter of fact he kept me from getting hurt when I asked him to stop with no reins.
What I do with horses with no stop is to walk straight to a fence set my feet,plant my butt,say whoa , and pick up on the reins to stop. You are going to have to do this many times. When you feel that the horse understands that, speed up to a trot. Do that until the horse understands that, then move up to a lope. It is going to take time, not just 10 repeats. You might try these steps away from the fence as you progress. Use a shorter shank bit because you are trying to prepare your horse to stop not have a strength contest because the horse is going to win. Your mom needs to work on the stop too. When you run in your regular bit and prepare the horse to stop you should be good.
All of my horses stop when I say whoa---their favorite word. |
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| I agree with the above stopping drills.
Also, are you pulling back or up? Up is a lot harder for them to brace against and keep going. |
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| Thanks for the responses guys! I will do some of theses drills. I have tried them before and it seems to work until I start asking him for speed in an actual run! Guess I need to try it running at home lol We got him as a 4 year old and this issue came with him. I normally pull back on my reins. I don't just pull at once I bump him as well. Its starting to get bad and I need to fix this issue ASAP!!!
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Teach and learn the one rein stop.start with the walk and work your way up.for this to work the horse must stop and remain stopped before taking a step. Do not be in a hurry to move. |
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| What Streakysox said, definitely. But also make sure your curb is not too loose. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I agree on reinforcing and working on whoa. It's something you have to work on every single ride several times and be extremely consistent in your cues in order for a horse to stay tuned and listen. It's something you have to work hard to maintain.
Another thing that helps is having a solid routine after your run. Your horse knows where to rate and turn without any help --- he needs a specific place to stop when you get done. If you're riding off somewhere when you're done, he doesn't know where to stop.
When you come off your run, the second you get him stopped, get off right then and loosen your cinch. Maybe even give him a treat. Give him something to look forward to.
If you stop at the same place every time so he knows where to stop and give him something to look forward to, he'll want to stop. |
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| On the off chance that stopping exercises doesn't work....Molly Powell's First Barrel bit. We nicknamed it the 'whoa B' bit. One of my go to's on less ratey, hard mouthed, hard headed horses. It'll get your whoa, but it may be too much if he runs fine on the pattern. But try the stopping exercise first. |
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Location: Down South | I agree with all the above posters, but would also like to add... could his teeth possibly need attention.? You commented that the not stopping has gotten worse since you got him. If his teeth hasn't been floated he could have some sharp edges/hooks and pulling back to stop could be painful. My horse dumped me into a steel post a couple years ago coming into the alley because he wouldn't stop. At the end he went right and I went left. I work in surgery and I was positive I had broke my hip. I'm not one for the ER, but I went that night. It wasn't broke thank God. I kicked my ownself bcs I had let his teeth go for well over a year and not had them done. He wasn't stopping bcs he had some sharp edges. Once I had those fixed the not stopping wasn't an issue. I learned my lesson and have them seen by an equine dentist every 8-12 months now. |
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Sock Snob
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| If it has become a habit because of something. Bit his but up exhibition him lope him thru and with the stronger bit make his arse stop, like with a curb bit or a big hack, something you cam control him with. Do it a couple of times he will come back to ypu. Everytime you stop your horse make him back 5/6 steps. |
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Location: Alberta | Fairweather - 2014-12-30 2:40 PM I agree on reinforcing and working on whoa. It's something you have to work on every single ride several times and be extremely consistent in your cues in order for a horse to stay tuned and listen. It's something you have to work hard to maintain.
Another thing that helps is having a solid routine after your run. Your horse knows where to rate and turn without any help --- he needs a specific place to stop when you get done. If you're riding off somewhere when you're done, he doesn't know where to stop.
When you come off your run, the second you get him stopped, get off right then and loosen your cinch. Maybe even give him a treat. Give him something to look forward to.
If you stop at the same place every time so he knows where to stop and give him something to look forward to, he'll want to stop.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | cow pie - 2014-12-30 2:50 PM
Teach and learn the one rein stop.start with the walk and work your way up.for this to work the horse must stop and remain stopped before taking a step. Do not be in a hurry to move.
This is how I stop my gelding. I think a one rein stop is something every horse should know how to do. Even if they stop fine because you never know when reins may break. Mine runs in a O ring with a large twisted wire and a life saver. Runs great in it but does not stop. Most places I go I can shut the gate because he will not run into a gate but when there isn't a gate I rely on the one rein stop. |
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