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| rachellyn80 - 2015-01-06 8:36 AM bowersk - 2015-01-06 8:06 AM rockinas - 2015-01-06 7:46 AM Depends on the horse, there is no timeline with futurity horses.
I've had some for only 5 months and had them running good and winning, and I've had others that took 1-2 years to get them ready to go. This!^^ There are some that in just a few months really made me look like a trainer (ha!), and others... well, they're just late bloomers and we had to go slower. All depends on the colt. They may start strong, then revert back, like they've never seen a barrel before. You always have to keep it mind that they are babies. I agree with the poster that said to start out with a couple smaller futurities until you're comfortable, then hit the big ones. Good luck!
What are some of the futurities that you would recommend for someone starting out in this area? I have only lived here for about 7 years, but I don't think we've ever met, have we?
I do not believe I've had the pleasure of meeting you yet!
Rockinas put it well. The ones that progress quicker, you can just feel that they have "it". They really hunt their barrels with little help. Not to say ones that come around slower in the beginning won't have a "light bulb moment" and progress faster from that point. I'm not great at explaining anything, but this is definitely one of those things "when you feel it, you'll know" if that makes any sense. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Another thing to think about-- is the basic riding your horse has had before it's started on barrels. I've been very lucky to have had horses with EXCELLENT starts on them before I started riding them.
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Location: WYOMING | Herbie - 2015-01-06 10:19 AM
My 5 YO is the first futurity horse i've had in several years and he is one of those that is a prodigy. The saying "there is a fine line between madness and genius" fits him to a T. I have owned him since he was a weanling and we didn't break him until he was a 3 YO due to him being a midget until then. He's still not a big horse, but as a weanling/yearling/2 YO this colt ran everywhere he went. He would do things in the pasture that should be physically impossible for a horse to do and run harder than I have ever seen a horse go in my life. He's a turd....like very mischievious and you have to be on your toes every second you're around him or riding him.
We sent him to total performance as a 3 YO to race training because he had my colt breaker scared and was really humpy. My colt breaker would just pull him up. We wanted him to get forward and in one day of race training all that humping was over as soon as he got his butt busted. He worked a pretty impressive time getting his gate card and then ran 2 ninths and then he came home. I started riding him in March of 2014 and in 45 days of very inconsistent rides he was cruising a nice pattern. I continued to ride him and exhibitioned him a few times until he handily tried to unseat me one day at home running home from the third barrel. Scared the crap out of me! I kept riding him for another 60 days or so but couldn't bring myself to make a run on him again for fear I couldn't sit in the middle of him if he did it a second time. I made the decision to send him to Gunnar Enlow when the time changed and told him the entire story. I felt like I was dropping off a gremlin with all of the instructions I left with him! HAHA But Gunnar has said several times that he's glad I did because Ricky can be a bit tricky! That being said, he's very talented and just wants to be a barrel horse. This past weekend he placed in the 2D at Cresson behind Carlee Pierce and Lolo, so we're pretty excited to see what the future holds for him! I'm very thankful to Gunnar for taking on this gremlin of a colt.....we should have definitely named him Spike! LOL
Here he is after 45 days of very inconsistent riding off the track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcW4Eyq9GUHere he is at Cresson Sunday with Gunnar placing in the 2D behind Carlee and Lolo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i_cp49gJ0o
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| Rockinas-Excellent starts equate to roughly how many days riding? 30 days/60days? This is always what gets me curious. I have a tendency to spend forever getting them overly broke for barrels. I like them that way it just means my process takes longer.... |
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Location: WYOMING | ChicksInferno - 2015-01-06 5:57 PM
Rockinas-Excellent starts equate to roughly how many days riding? 30 days/60days? This is always what gets me curious. I have a tendency to spend forever getting them overly broke for barrels. I like them that way it just means my process takes longer....
What one rider can accomplish in 30 might take a different rider 90... |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | geronabean - 2015-01-06 5:00 PM ChicksInferno - 2015-01-06 5:57 PM Rockinas-Excellent starts equate to roughly how many days riding? 30 days/60days? This is always what gets me curious. I have a tendency to spend forever getting them overly broke for barrels. I like them that way it just means my process takes longer.... What one rider can accomplish in 30 might take a different rider 90...  To me that is one of the biggest tricks to getting them to come along fast, is to have a good, solid foundation on them by a person that puts confidence in them in those very first rides. The guy I have start mine doesn't want them anymore than halterbroke when he takes them.
Here's my 2 year old Dash Ta Fame that he had for a week in this video. She was halterbroke when he got her. FRENCHMANS MOON DASH
I will get her back at the end of this month (he's using her in a horsemanship demo at the Black Hills Stock Show) and she will know enough to go right to the pattern.
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Location: NE Texas | rockinas - 2015-01-06 5:38 PM
geronabean - 2015-01-06 5:00 PM ChicksInferno - 2015-01-06 5:57 PM Rockinas-Excellent starts equate to roughly how many days riding? 30 days/60days? This is always what gets me curious. I have a tendency to spend forever getting them overly broke for barrels. I like them that way it just means my process takes longer.... What one rider can accomplish in 30 might take a different rider 90...
Here's my 2 year old Dash Ta Fame that he had for a week in this video. She was halterbroke when he got her. FRENCHMANS MOON DASH
I will get her back at the end of this month (he's using her in a horsemanship demo at the Black Hills Stock Show) and she will know enough to go right to the pattern.
Wow!!!!! How interesting and What an asset he is! I'd love to send mine to him too....that is incredible! Nice filly too by the way, Amy!!! |
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Location: NE Texas | geronabean - 2015-01-06 12:11 PM
Herbie - 2015-01-06 10:19 AM
My 5 YO is the first futurity horse i've had in several years and he is one of those that is a prodigy. The saying "there is a fine line between madness and genius" fits him to a T. I have owned him since he was a weanling and we didn't break him until he was a 3 YO due to him being a midget until then. He's still not a big horse, but as a weanling/yearling/2 YO this colt ran everywhere he went. He would do things in the pasture that should be physically impossible for a horse to do and run harder than I have ever seen a horse go in my life. He's a turd....like very mischievious and you have to be on your toes every second you're around him or riding him.
We sent him to total performance as a 3 YO to race training because he had my colt breaker scared and was really humpy. My colt breaker would just pull him up. We wanted him to get forward and in one day of race training all that humping was over as soon as he got his butt busted. He worked a pretty impressive time getting his gate card and then ran 2 ninths and then he came home. I started riding him in March of 2014 and in 45 days of very inconsistent rides he was cruising a nice pattern. I continued to ride him and exhibitioned him a few times until he handily tried to unseat me one day at home running home from the third barrel. Scared the crap out of me! I kept riding him for another 60 days or so but couldn't bring myself to make a run on him again for fear I couldn't sit in the middle of him if he did it a second time. I made the decision to send him to Gunnar Enlow when the time changed and told him the entire story. I felt like I was dropping off a gremlin with all of the instructions I left with him! HAHA But Gunnar has said several times that he's glad I did because Ricky can be a bit tricky! That being said, he's very talented and just wants to be a barrel horse. This past weekend he placed in the 2D at Cresson behind Carlee Pierce and Lolo, so we're pretty excited to see what the future holds for him! I'm very thankful to Gunnar for taking on this gremlin of a colt.....we should have definitely named him Spike! LOL
Here he is after 45 days of very inconsistent riding off the track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcW4Eyq9GUHere he is at Cresson Sunday with Gunnar placing in the 2D behind Carlee and Lolo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i_cp49gJ0o
Lookin good Herbs!!!
Thanks, Beaner! I'm thinking your filly is already way cool too....of course I've had my eye on her since you got your hands on her. ;) 2015 is going to be a lot of fun!!!! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Herbie - 2015-01-06 6:11 PM Wow!!!!! How interesting and What an asset he is! I'd love to send mine to him too....that is incredible! Nice filly too by the way, Amy!!!
Thanks! Yeah he's pretty good. He's got a 2 year waiting list. I've always got something in training out there, he doesn't live far from us. Pretty lucky that way. I can't wait to see how this filly rides with a saddle and bridle LOL. Probably won't put her on the pattern until next fall, I like to turn them out after 30 rides. She'll know enough that I can take right off with her whenever I get the chance. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Herbie - 2015-01-06 9:19 AM My 5 YO is the first futurity horse i've had in several years and he is one of those that is a prodigy. The saying "there is a fine line between madness and genius" fits him to a T. I have owned him since he was a weanling and we didn't break him until he was a 3 YO due to him being a midget until then. He's still not a big horse, but as a weanling/yearling/2 YO this colt ran everywhere he went. He would do things in the pasture that should be physically impossible for a horse to do and run harder than I have ever seen a horse go in my life. He's a turd....like very mischievious and you have to be on your toes every second you're around him or riding him.
We sent him to total performance as a 3 YO to race training because he had my colt breaker scared and was really humpy. My colt breaker would just pull him up. We wanted him to get forward and in one day of race training all that humping was over as soon as he got his butt busted. He worked a pretty impressive time getting his gate card and then ran 2 ninths and then he came home. I started riding him in March of 2014 and in 45 days of very inconsistent rides he was cruising a nice pattern. I continued to ride him and exhibitioned him a few times until he handily tried to unseat me one day at home running home from the third barrel. Scared the crap out of me! I kept riding him for another 60 days or so but couldn't bring myself to make a run on him again for fear I couldn't sit in the middle of him if he did it a second time. I made the decision to send him to Gunnar Enlow when the time changed and told him the entire story. I felt like I was dropping off a gremlin with all of the instructions I left with him! HAHA But Gunnar has said several times that he's glad I did because Ricky can be a bit tricky! That being said, he's very talented and just wants to be a barrel horse. This past weekend he placed in the 2D at Cresson behind Carlee Pierce and Lolo, so we're pretty excited to see what the future holds for him! I'm very thankful to Gunnar for taking on this gremlin of a colt.....we should have definitely named him Spike! LOL
Here he is after 45 days of very inconsistent riding off the track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcW4Eyq9GU
Here he is at Cresson Sunday with Gunnar placing in the 2D behind Carlee and Lolo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i_cp49gJ0o
Love this one! And good luck at DD! I wish I could go to that one but it's right in the middle of our heifers calving. Someday I hope to be able to attend.
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Location: NE Texas | rockinas - 2015-01-06 6:32 PM
Herbie - 2015-01-06 9:19 AM My 5 YO is the first futurity horse i've had in several years and he is one of those that is a prodigy. The saying "there is a fine line between madness and genius" fits him to a T. I have owned him since he was a weanling and we didn't break him until he was a 3 YO due to him being a midget until then. He's still not a big horse, but as a weanling/yearling/2 YO this colt ran everywhere he went. He would do things in the pasture that should be physically impossible for a horse to do and run harder than I have ever seen a horse go in my life. He's a turd....like very mischievious and you have to be on your toes every second you're around him or riding him.
We sent him to total performance as a 3 YO to race training because he had my colt breaker scared and was really humpy. My colt breaker would just pull him up. We wanted him to get forward and in one day of race training all that humping was over as soon as he got his butt busted. He worked a pretty impressive time getting his gate card and then ran 2 ninths and then he came home. I started riding him in March of 2014 and in 45 days of very inconsistent rides he was cruising a nice pattern. I continued to ride him and exhibitioned him a few times until he handily tried to unseat me one day at home running home from the third barrel. Scared the crap out of me! I kept riding him for another 60 days or so but couldn't bring myself to make a run on him again for fear I couldn't sit in the middle of him if he did it a second time. I made the decision to send him to Gunnar Enlow when the time changed and told him the entire story. I felt like I was dropping off a gremlin with all of the instructions I left with him! HAHA But Gunnar has said several times that he's glad I did because Ricky can be a bit tricky! That being said, he's very talented and just wants to be a barrel horse. This past weekend he placed in the 2D at Cresson behind Carlee Pierce and Lolo, so we're pretty excited to see what the future holds for him! I'm very thankful to Gunnar for taking on this gremlin of a colt.....we should have definitely named him Spike! LOL
Here he is after 45 days of very inconsistent riding off the track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcW4Eyq9GU
Here he is at Cresson Sunday with Gunnar placing in the 2D behind Carlee and Lolo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i_cp49gJ0o
Thank you! He's "special" just not always in a good way. Lol I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully one day you'll get down this direction and I came watch you in person rather than stalking your YouTube! ;-) |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | rockinas - 2015-01-06 6:26 PM
Herbie - 2015-01-06 6:11 PM Wow!!!!! How interesting and What an asset he is! I'd love to send mine to him too....that is incredible! Nice filly too by the way, Amy!!!
Thanks! Yeah he's pretty good. He's got a 2 year waiting list. I've always got something in training out there, he doesn't live far from us. Pretty lucky that way. I can't wait to see how this filly rides with a saddle and bridle LOL. Probably won't put her on the pattern until next fall, I like to turn them out after 30 rides. She'll know enough that I can take right off with her whenever I get the chance.
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | TurnLane - 2015-01-07 8:21 AM Didn't Liana Deweese start Girlfriend? I wonder how much riding she had had prior?
I was told Girlfriend had 60 days on her before Julie bought her that October. But if you really want to know I am sure Liana would tell you.
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| Rockinas - Rodney is a hand! I've watched him off and on for a while and he is one that can accomplish more in 30 days than most people can in 90. I wish I had his seat for riding ...! wowza. Who's the dam on the Dash Ta Fame filly? I really like how she moves!
Herbie - that filly is SWEET!!! I really like her .... wanna trade a couple of barn cats for her??! j/k! |
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| Just put a deposit on my filly that is turing 2 in February. Looking forward to spending this year getting her good and broke; all next year hauling her and getting her used to the sites/sounds and our goal is to be entered on 12/1/2016! I have started quite a few horses but this filly is pretty special. |
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Location: Around here somewhere... | rockinas - 2015-01-06 6:46 AM
Depends on the horse, there is no timeline with futurity horses.
I've had some for only 5 months and had them running good and winning, and I've had others that took 1-2 years to get them ready to go.
I second this... I haven't done futurities yet, but I train a lot of horses and it varies SO much from horse to horse- some horses I can have running at the top of their game within 3 or 4 months, others take forever. "Generally" I can expect one to know the pattern and be solidly loping through with no issues within 30-45 days (assuming they were good broke to begin with). From there, though, it's anyone's guess- some take a long time to add the speed and others automatically add it right away. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | rockinas - 2015-01-07 9:01 AM TurnLane - 2015-01-07 8:21 AM Didn't Liana Deweese start Girlfriend? I wonder how much riding she had had prior? I was told Girlfriend had 60 days on her before Julie bought her that October. But if you really want to know I am sure Liana would tell you.
She was sure started nice, but then again I have told you that numerous times so you already knew that.
You are right:) I absolutley knew it- just trying to give a little propps to my dear friend since everyone was raving about your other colt starter, that's all. Sharing the love!
Although we all know Liana is so much more than one of the best starters in the land, she also trains and competes on great barrel horses too. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-07 9:19 AM Rockinas - Rodney is a hand! I've watched him off and on for a while and he is one that can accomplish more in 30 days than most people can in 90. I wish I had his seat for riding ...! wowza. Who's the dam on the Dash Ta Fame filly? I really like how she moves!
Herbie - that filly is SWEET!!! I really like her .... wanna trade a couple of barn cats for her??! j/k!
Yes he does a great job!
That DTF filly is out of a daughter of Frenchmans Guy.
I bought her a year ago and had SG pick this filly up for me. SG liked the filly so much she went back and bought her momma! She's bred to ASOF for this year so that will sure be exciting! |
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