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| stressing me out trying to pick one out of the thousands I look at. The top 10 on my list I would need to take a loan out... Sheesh.so many choices ?? |
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Location: Texas | first I look for evidence of crosses that have worked on mares bred like mine. then I look in a price range that I can afford. Then I compare what the individual stallions have done- what their performance record is, their progeny record, sale prices of their foals, etc.. Then I look at incentives like future fortunes. It's more like all of this is going on at once in my head LOL. Very confusing.
It was a fairly easy decision for me to breed my Stoli daughter to First Down French. I loved his own performance record, thought I could ride something that ran and turned like him, and liked the fact that there were a few FG X Stoli crosses popping up when I started looking. I also really liked dealing with his owner so it made the whole deal a breeze.
Firewater Ta Fame hadn't crossed on any Stolis when I bred a mare to him, but I have watched so many of his babies win on so many different types of mares that I felt no matter what, it would be a good combination. I've been really happy with the colt.
We also picked FWTF for our JOH daughter because of one of his oldest colts, "Chili", is out of a JOH mare too.
Slick By Design was just one that we jumped on the opportunity. I have watched him since he was exhibitioning to him winning as a 4YO and have watched him with Jennifer Sharp and then watched him with Michelle. I honestly bred to him strictly because he was such a phenomenal athlete and he was affordable. We are breeding him to the Stoli daughter as well.
Now I have absolutely NO IDEA who to breed My Strawflyin Buds to next year. Not a freaking clue.
Long story short... When I have picked a stallion I then look at the contract and look at all the added fees that may or may not be there. I will be turned off of a really good stallion because I feel like I'm being "fee'ed" to death. It all has to be perfect for me to make the call. |
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| I noticed some studs fees will nickel and dime you after the initial fee. My mare is cow Bred nothing fancy I want one baby. Just one and I plan on keeping it. I don't want any FG not because he's awful lol but it seems there are a lot of them. I want something a little different. I'm not even sure if I want a DTF...ug... That only leaves 999 more studs to look at. I want a short back low hocked pretty sum of a buck with a motor. Oh and I don't want to sell a liver to do so. Short list....hahaha I think I'm more concerned I'm going to pick one and regret it
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Look for something phenotypically compatible with your mare. If she's short and stocky, look for a short and stocky stud. Some people try to 'fix' things and while there are certain things you can improve, don't assume you'll get a level individual breeding to something completely different than your mare. Breeding is a crap shoot as it is, if you breed similar individuals, you'll have better odds of knowing what you're getting. Breeding something totally different may work out and it may not. Just depends on the individual.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Lol it's really, really easy for me. |
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| I am not a young person and am realistic about life. I have to have horses that will sell if something in my life suddenly changes. I do not plan to sell any or want to, but you never know. I try to go with the winning bloodlines that sell well. I look at what is winning in futurities. I usually pick out three horses that I feel will cross well on my mare, contact the owner/breeding facility, and who ever gives me the best deal is who I go with. It also helps that owners know that I do actually use and promote my horses. |
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| I establish my budget, then filter by pedigree and performance.
Then I look at market perception and stud farm.
I need babies to have a market value as I breed to sell. I also need them to be able to perform. I also look at the mares the stallion bred the year before and his connections...it makes a difference. |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I to look at my budget. There are so many that I would love to have foals by but they are way out of my reach! All the fees with the vet and shipping can be so expensive! I figure all of this in my budget along with the stud fee and go from there. I then look at those in my price that will compliment my mare best. I always keep resale in the back of my mind even though I am usually breeding for myself. I also look at what incentives the offspring are eligible for. I also like a stud that has done something! Whether it be barrels, racing or roping I want to see how they work and what their disposition is like! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Leo - 2015-02-07 3:26 PM Look for something phenotypically compatible with your mare. If she's short and stocky, look for a short and stocky stud. Some people try to 'fix' things and while there are certain things you can improve, don't assume you'll get a level individual breeding to something completely different than your mare. Breeding is a crap shoot as it is, if you breed similar individuals, you'll have better odds of knowing what you're getting. Breeding something totally different may work out and it may not. Just depends on the individual.
The TB people started that thought a century ago and then others have taken off with it but it had nothing to do with phenotype! They were talking about "race type", now known as dosages. The last thing you want to do is think you have to be stuck with the same type of individual. Why do you think Three Bars was so successful and influential on the QH breed? He brought some height, refinement, and scope to all those very short thick cobby mares. The whole premise in breeding horses is to improve each generation. Not stay stuck in the same rut.
If your mare is short and thick, you dont want to breed to a short thick horse unless you want to have a short thick foal. If your mare is to fine boned, sweepy and long backed, the last thing you want to breed to is another fine boned long individual. No, your going to go to a thicker made, shorter coupled horse with good bone.
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| A good MIND. Ability is great but with out a good mind, it's a waste. I look for horses that's can rope, run barrels, and maybe something else. Then I start from the ground up. I look at feet, legs, and back. Look for the things that training can't fix. Also remember, higher fees don't mean a better foal. |
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Location: Nebraska | casualdust07 - 2015-02-07 12:04 PM first I look for evidence of crosses that have worked on mares bred like mine. then I look in a price range that I can afford. Then I compare what the individual stallions have done- what their performance record is, their progeny record, sale prices of their foals, etc.. Then I look at incentives like future fortunes. It's more like all of this is going on at once in my head LOL. Very confusing. It was a fairly easy decision for me to breed my Stoli daughter to First Down French. I loved his own performance record, thought I could ride something that ran and turned like him, and liked the fact that there were a few FG X Stoli crosses popping up when I started looking. I also really liked dealing with his owner so it made the whole deal a breeze. Firewater Ta Fame hadn't crossed on any Stolis when I bred a mare to him, but I have watched so many of his babies win on so many different types of mares that I felt no matter what, it would be a good combination. I've been really happy with the colt. We also picked FWTF for our JOH daughter because of one of his oldest colts, "Chili", is out of a JOH mare too. Slick By Design was just one that we jumped on the opportunity. I have watched him since he was exhibitioning to him winning as a 4YO and have watched him with Jennifer Sharp and then watched him with Michelle. I honestly bred to him strictly because he was such a phenomenal athlete and he was affordable. We are breeding him to the Stoli daughter as well. Now I have absolutely NO IDEA who to breed My Strawflyin Buds to next year. Not a freaking clue. Long story short... When I have picked a stallion I then look at the contract and look at all the added fees that may or may not be there. I will be turned off of a really good stallion because I feel like I'm being "fee'ed" to death. It all has to be perfect for me to make the call.
this for sure! This will be my first year breeding and probably the only year I will do so.
To the op, have you looked at Perks Alive? He's crossed well on cowbred mares, isn't FG and isn't DTF :) |
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