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Location: TN | Bit question! I have two main bits I ride my gelding in: short shank Sherry Cervi 3 piece gag and L&W combination bit #170 with a 3 piece mouthpiece. I use the Sherry Cervi bit for riding because he's more stiff in the combo bit (only ever use the combo bit to run), but if I try to run in the Sherry Cervi bit he'll almost always drop his shoulder and hit the 2nd barrel. I know part of it is my anticipation of the barrel and not pushing him into the pocket, BUT he doesn't drop like that in the combo bit.
Since I don't love the combo bit is there another bit that could help with this? He's an aggressive runner who has a tendency to drop if not running in a bit with lift. I need something with lift, some bend, and some rate. Maybe a shanked chain bit like the Molly Powell chain bit or the Shallow Creek bit #75?
First picture is the combo bit I have, the next two pics are the Molly Powell bit and Shallow Creek bit.
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Location: TN | bump |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | Anything without gag. The more swept back your shanks are, the slower the action. Keep your shank:purchase ratio in mind to determine how much leverage you are exerting; choose the mouthpiece that your horse works best in. :) |
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Location: TN | svincent - 2015-02-05 5:05 PM Anything without gag. The more swept back your shanks are, the slower the action. Keep your shank:purchase ratio in mind to determine how much leverage you are exerting; choose the mouthpiece that your horse works best in. :)
Ok, good advice, thanks! |
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Location: TN | i always thought the 3 piece mouth was not for lifting ? |
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| horsingaround - 2015-02-09 6:02 PM
i always thought the 3 piece mouth was not for lifting ?
The mouthpiece doesn't have anything to do with lift. It has to do with where you want the pressure in the mouth.
The purchase, shanks, and gag action control the body.
To the op, it sounds like your horse is pushing on the bit, as I use the Sheri cervi diamond lifter for a little more lift in the shoulders.
I would suggest looking at a mike beers bit with a ported chain mouthpiece, this should give you the lift you need, and make his face more soft to listen. |
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Location: TN | cheryl makofka - 2015-02-09 8:48 PM horsingaround - 2015-02-09 6:02 PM i always thought the 3 piece mouth was not for lifting ? The mouthpiece doesn't have anything to do with lift. It has to do with where you want the pressure in the mouth. The purchase, shanks, and gag action control the body. To the op, it sounds like your horse is pushing on the bit, as I use the Sheri cervi diamond lifter for a little more lift in the shoulders. I would suggest looking at a mike beers bit with a ported chain mouthpiece, this should give you the lift you need, and make his face more soft to listen.
Yes, he does get pushy so I'm always working on backing him off during just riding and slow work. Thanks! I'll look into that bit. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Sharon Camarillo Lifter bit. http://www.tackstop.com/bitr715.htm
When I was hauling alot I used this bit on a few on my horses at least one day a week in practice and that is all it took. No more shoulder dropping. |
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| My gelding also runs in the Sherry Cervi Lifter and I recently got a Goosetree Double Gag and he works beautifully in it. I havent use it in a run yet but he is so responsive. I got the bit cheap and didnt expect much but I love him in it. He also a big dropper. |
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Location: Canada | I would try a pretzel...and keep him a bit further away from the barrel with his nose tipped...keep your outside hand off the rein. I see alot of people think they need to lift the shoulders with a bit when the reality is that its rider error and the horse is actually doing exactly what you are asking them. I know this because I was also an offender of this crime :) But in order to get over this spree of "tipping" I had to work on myself first and my horse second. Once I figured out the proper body positioning and riding to the correct spot I then found the pretzel is the only bit I will ever need to run this horse. It allows me to get him in the proper position quickly and easily. |
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Location: TN | Thank you for the suggestions, I'll check out those bits! |
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