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jumpingbarrels
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-03-11 2:55 PM
Subject: Botulism


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Success stories? Things to try for it? They are thinking my mare has it and what I have researched about it it looks like that is the case. They are doing more tests to try to rule it out but I am just trying to keep my head up about it.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-03-11 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism



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what were your horses symptoms?

When I worked for a boarding facility, I remember one of the BO's horses was diagnosed with it. Her symptoms were this nasty green stuff running out of her nose, and she would try and stick her entire head in the water trough when drinking. I believe she was also shifting weight in her hind end when she stood in her stall, just looked uncomfortable in general.

But I can not remember how she was treated, since this was several years ago.  
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-11 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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there is no cure  i had to put 1 down so she would not die a horrible death

the loss muscle control  stagger  they less than 36 hrs  its horrible 
it affect their muscles  


Edited by vjls 2015-03-11 7:06 PM
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jumpingbarrels
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-03-11 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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She is having trouble swallowing, weak, shifting back end, laying down a lot(no rolling). We are just giving her fluids and banimine. I was told about some plasma that can slow down the process. The vets called her moderate. That she isnt severe yet. She is comfortable standing for a little while after laying down but after 30 minutes gets tired and starting shifting wanting to lay down again.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-03-11 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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Give a whole bottle of Activated Charcoal Can get it at a grocery store for around $5. It removes toxin out of the body.. no gaurantee but certainly worth a try. Take it out of the capsules mix in grain with water.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-03-11 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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If horse has it then it will die a slow and painful death. Id get her to a hospital if possible and do what needs to be done .here is some info on it..even with aggressive antitoxins the horse may not make it..
Id make sure i knew what I was dealing with but Id certainly not let it go on to long ..Not saying euthanize her but if she detoriates fast id do the right thing....
 
 Most affected horses need to be hospitalized because they require constant nursing and feeding care, and may deteriorate to the point of needing sling assistance to stand. A mainstay of therapy involves administration of botulism antitoxin, which binds botulism toxin in circulation. However, once botulism toxin has bound to the nerve, it cannot be reversed and the horse's body must regenerate its own nerve-muscle junctions, which can take weeks. Antibiotics such as penicillin and metronidazole can kill C. botulinum bacteria, if present. Horses usually cannot swallow or drink, so they require intravenous fluids and feeding via stomach tube or total parenteral nutrition. The prevention of pressure sores through assistance with standing is also very important and can be labor-intensive. Foals occasionally have such severe respiratory weakness that they require assisted breathing with a mechanical ventilator. Death can occur even with aggressive treatment. Foals generally have a better prognosis than adult horses.

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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-12 12:37 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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Antitoxin, I would have them administer this asap
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-03-12 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism



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someone had said plasma helps??? Not sure, but ask your vet about it.  
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jumpingbarrels
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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A vet was was there from the very beginning. Unfortunately she did not make it. I had to put her down on Monday. Thanks for all the comments.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-03-19 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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 very sorry for loss of your horse.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-03-20 1:01 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism



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So very sorry for your loss
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2015-03-20 6:23 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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Just went to a seminar for this, they have a vacine for this its is around 30 bux.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-03-20 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism



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very sorry for your loss  
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-20 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism


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jumpingbarrels - 2015-03-19 9:35 PM A vet was was there from the very beginning. Unfortunately she did not make it. I had to put her down on Monday. Thanks for all the comments.

that was the best you  could do i know what you went thru we had to put down our mare about 20 hrs after she foaled have no idea how she got thats the scary part

as and your other horse could get it

its awful stuff and fatal there is somthing for it but u have to know within 24 hrs and in 95 its was 2500.00 and no guartenee but we were to late  for that 
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-20 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Botulism



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daisycake123 - 2015-03-20 6:23 AM

Just went to a seminar for this, they have a vacine for this its is around 30 bux.

I was always told it was not the greatest since it only covers one strain and it's not even the most common.

To the OP, I am really sorry for your loss
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