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Hoof experts......are these contracted heels? What are these cracks? NEW SHOE PICS PG 4

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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-03-29 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: Hoof experts......are these contracted heels? What are these cracks?



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 I'll get some today.  Hoping they pass BHW approval!!  *crossing fingers*
His feed look different than what I'm used to seeing (which Is incorrect) so I'm hoping we took a step in the right direction.  
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MeepMeep
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-03-31 1:39 PM
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Rausch_Jessica
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-03-31 2:18 PM
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This was a really good read that helped me with my farrier decisions! http://www.barrelracingtips.com/barefoot-trim-for-barrel-racing 

Now does anyone want to post pictures of thier barefoot trims? (I would like to see if my farrier is doing a good job!)
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TLynn
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2015-03-31 2:48 PM
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Has anyone watched the Happy Hoof on YouTube?

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Cowgirl Kat
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-03-31 4:55 PM
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can't wait to see the after photos!  
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MeepMeep
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-04-02 6:41 AM
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Waiting on new pictures
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-04-03 12:00 AM
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OK, HERE'S THE NEW SHOE JOB PICTURES.  There's 5 days of growth at this time.  I *think* his feet look better and it *seems* the angles have changed a little bit.  I ended up using a new shoer.  Hoping ya'll feel the same...... =/ Kinda nervous......

Left front:

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Left rear:
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Right rear:
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Right front:
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Fronts (couldn't get him square....make him look uneven?):
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Underneath:
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Finished.
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ccarpe18
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2015-04-03 12:16 AM
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It looks like there can still be a lot more taken down. But slowly so your horse doesn't get sore.  
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-04-03 12:49 AM
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Looks a lot better, I would like a shorter toe.

Also I suggest resetting every 4 weeks, the farrier won't take much off, but it will allow the foot to expand
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MeepMeep
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-04-03 6:21 AM
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Looks good! I don't think the angles look a lot different, he just really needed to be done in the first pictures. I like how he gave him some support with the shoe in the heel. I wouldn't worry about any coffin bone pushing down on the sole, his feet are NOT bad and that wont be a problem. I am sure the bruise was just a bruise. Hopefully you can rest easy now, I think you don't have anything to worry about (And I think you could use either shoer and be okay) Just make sure he's done 4 to 5 weeks like Cheryl said and you should be great!
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TLynn
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2015-04-03 9:59 AM
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I think this farrier did a much better job all the way around. 4 weeks reset agree!
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MeepMeep
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-04-03 10:24 AM
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TLynn - 2015-04-03 9:59 AM

I think this farrier did a much better job all the way around. 4 weeks reset agree!

Based on an over due shoe job and a fresh shoe job?
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-04-03 10:28 AM
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 Thank you guys for the reassurance.  I liked how this shoer didn't rasp the front of the hoof TO the shoe like the last one did (I can't remember the term for it...).  I'm just glad I didn't use the farrier that every else was using at the time when I first got here.  Feet were terribly underrun and overal poor looking.  One girls horse got a hot nail and was 3 legged lame and wouldn't call her back!  So thank goodness I didn't go that route.
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MeepMeep
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-04-03 10:32 AM
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hammer_time - 2015-04-03 10:28 AM

Β Thank you guys for the reassurance. Β I liked how this shoer didn't rasp the front of the hoof TO the shoe like the last one did (I can't remember the term for it...). Β I'm just glad I didn't use the farrier that every else was using at the time when I first got here. Β Feet were terribly underrun and overal poor looking. Β One girls horse got a hot nail and was 3 legged lame and wouldn't call her back! Β So thank goodness I didn't go that route.

The second shoer actually did on a couple of the feet, rasp the toe down, he just didn't start far up like first farrier. The further down it is done the better as to not weaken the hoof wall. Neither farrier is going to cripple your horse per these pictures
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-04-03 3:08 PM
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 Okay I'm late in the game here but here's my take...the barefoot trim wasn't bad but his toes are really short and he still had a lot of heel that could have been rasped down. Also is you look at the quarters they are longer than the toe were as that should be even all the way around. This short toe/long heel plus all of the growth he did during the first shoeing made things a bit worse. He probably needs to be on a strict 4-5 week schedule. The cracks between the heels and the frog is from where they have contracted in and the valley that usually lays between the fog and bars has literally closed in. Go look at a healthy foot he will have a wide frog with a nice wide space between the heels, bars, and frog. This also shows you how long his heels were too. On to the most recent shoeing...his trim looks much better with a better balance of toe/heel length. However, personally I am not real thrilled with the shoe job it self. There is entirely too much heel of the shoe extending off the back of the foot. On the back feet a little is okay, but even there, there is more than I like to see. If that large of a shoe was necessary, then the heels should have been cut off the shoe to the proper length! And it looks like to me he rasped off way up the wall almost to the cornet band. The bottom 1/3 to not over 1/3 of the wall should have been rasped. The bottom of the foot also has several gap between it and the shoe where it is not flat and even with the shoe. Yes, sometimes horses have wear and you may have some slight gaps but with all that growth he should have been able to get the foot to fit flat and even to the shoe. And I will never understand why so many farriers leave so much clench, but that's a whole other story! 
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fatchance
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-04-03 3:22 PM
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Take cotton balls and soak them in coppertox then push those into those cracks in the frog.  Do this until the trush is gone.   
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SmokinBandits
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-04-03 9:02 PM
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They look 100% better! I see what you're talking about with the first farrier. I don't know if it was so much that he was rasping the outside of it, but three quarters of the way down the foot, the angle actually changed a little. It didn't look right to me. Now these ones look right. Also, there is better asymetrical balance on each side of the frog. It's more even. Whereas in the first pictures, it looked like the frog was kind of off center. If they are not balanced properly, pressure on one side or another could cause cracks. I was going to say give the first farrier a chance since you just started using him, but now I'm glad you didn't because there's a big difference. Also, it could be because he was due to get done, but these shoes look like they fit better.

I can't tell if there's thrush but I would suggest squirting in Kopertox. I do that pretty regularly, not all the time, but whenever it's muddy or I haven't cleaned their feet in a while. Kind of as a preventative.Β 

You should be proud of yourself. I think you are more knowledgeable than you give yourself credit for! You KNEW something wasn't right and you listened to your gut.Β 

Your horse is beautiful, by the way.Β 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-04-03 9:06 PM
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They look good, just dont wait to long to reset your horse, at 5 weeks at least, but depends on how fast he grows out. 
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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-04-03 11:00 PM
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They still make me cringe. I'd treat for deep sulcus thrush for sure.
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