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| I have a 6 year old, very well mannered, very gentle stud. He only "talks" if he hasn't been ridden for extended periods of time. Never drops when tied to the trailer or rail or while standing with other horses in groups at ropings and races. We have only tied him with geldings but he pays no attention to them and we haul him with mares as long as there is a gelding in between. To date he has never covered any mares. He is a jam up heel horse and we leadline my daughter on him at ropings and she rides him at home by herself. We have been looking for a pony or small horse for her for over a year. Her current pony is in his 30's and is goinig down hill so we are kind of in a crunch to find her the right animal.
I am toying with the idea of just cutting him and making him her horse. I have never had a late cut stud and have been told conflicting things. Some people say they act just like geldings after all the hormones are gone, some say they will still be study. Does anyone have experience with this?
I would trust him whole heartedly if he wasn't a stud. He has NEVER given me any reason to be concerned that he would do something stupid but he is still a stud and I know that even the best ones can have a bad day. Plus there are a lot of associations that prohibit children from riding studs no matter how good they are. It has been so difficult to find the right pony and I really do feel like he would be it if he wasn't still packing!
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Location: Oklahoma | We have a 7 year old stud that is exactly like you describe yours. Our daughter is also learning to ride on him. He is turned out with a 7 year old gelding (gelded April 2014) and that gelding is the most mellow thing. We have also toyed with doing the same thing and gelding him. He is expecting his first foal in about 1-2 weeks. I also have a handful of mares breeding to him this year. I would love to freeze on him before gelding him, but that's about $1800 in our area to do.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I have 2 that were cut late at 6 and at 12. When it comes to riding, they're like any other gelding. In the pasture, they will cut their mares out and dare anyone to get close -- but then I have life long geldings do the same. The farm I used to work at cut one of their stallions in his teens as well. He had been a holy terror his whole life and in just a few weeks was a nice mellow little gelding. |
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| I used to work for a hunter/jumper stable that had a really nice TB stallion that sired pretty much all of her lesson and show horses, and when the economy took a dive, she had him gelded at 16. She pulled him out of the pasture, put 60 days of tune up on him, and he's her best beginner lesson horse now.
My 2 cents: If he's quiet and level headed now, it's only going to get better once the excess hormones are taken care of. |
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Location: Deep South | I used to work for a cutting horse trainer and they cut several of theirs late a year. From what I saw it really varied from stud to stud. I believe that's why you're probably getting conflicting information. Some studs handle becoming a gelding just fine later in life and some never really do come around.
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| I have one here at my place that was cut a year ago. He is now 6 so he was cut at age 5. So far he is doing well in my mixed group of horses. This winter I had him in with mares and geldings. About a month ago I did take my one mare and put her in a different spot simply because I wasn't sure how he would be around her when she started really coming into spring heat.
As for temperment he is super nice! Very calm to be around, just a nice horse. My 7 yo daughter jumped on him out in the paddock the other day when he was laying down and it never fazed him. I think he was kind of a terror as a stud but I never saw him when he was because I bought him "after the surgery", LOL!
My daughters horse was also cut later (4 yo old maybe 5) I believe as well. He too is a super nice horse to be around. Very nice mannered, just a nice gelding. |
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| I've had 2 that I'm guessing by their offspring record & people that knew them were cut around 6-8. Both of them would still occasionally mount a mare in the pasture, but never any problems during riding. It was also usually only one "favorite". They eventually even grew out of that. |
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| We bought a gelding at age 7 who was cut as a 5 year old. We have never had any stud behavior, he is not 18. |
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Location: In between 4 ridges | I was in the exact same boat as you. My guy was a 6 year old when he was cut. He is now my sons barrel horse. Never once had a problem with him. Every fun show we take him to someone asks if he is for sale. Love him!!! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I cut 2 studs late - one at 11 and the other at 12. Both had been used for breeding quite a few mares. They were gentlemen before castration so they are gentlemen now. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I would think your guy would be fine. Especially since he has never bred a mare. I have seen it go both ways with older breeding stallions geing gelded. One was a holy TERROR. Wanted nothing more than to kill other geldings even YEARS after being gelded himself. (Even when there were no mares around.) BUT>>> He was an Ahole as a stallion too! (Hence the reason he was gelded.)
I don't think gelding your boy is going to make stallion like behaviour come out that has never been there.
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| When I was a kid. I learned to ride on geldings had been stallions to 5 or 6 and 10 or 12 and had sired a few foals each. When I was 2 I rode the older one. He was in his upper twenties and had been a gelding for over 10 years. When I was about 8 or 9 I rode the other one. They were both great geldings. The had both had show careers and had very good manners as stallions. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | RacingQH - 2015-04-11 11:26 AM
I would think your guy would be fine. Especially since he has never bred a mare. I have seen it go both ways with older breeding stallions geing gelded. One was a holy TERROR. Wanted nothing more than to kill other geldings even YEARS after being gelded himself. (Even when there were no mares around.) BUT>>> He was an Ahole as a stallion too! (Hence the reason he was gelded.)
I don't think gelding your boy is going to make stallion like behaviour come out that has never been there.
I tend to agree with CYA and RQH. If he is a gentleman now and never experienced it he is more likely to be friendly later. I have one like yours, he's 14 and covered mares but I can turn him out with bred mares/geldings/ yearlings whatever I want in the winter and he's great, in the summer he goes with his mares and foals. He acts better then the 5 year old gelding who was cut at 1 1/2 years old; NOT by my stud. You will get mixed responses but it's based off each horse and their personality.
ETA: Mine is still a stud and I won't cut him, his babies are as good as he is.
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Location: TN | My horse was gelded at 6 and before gelding he had never bred anything but he had always struggled with being possessive over our mares. He could be around mares with no problems except he got possessive over our mares when they were together at a roping or something. He would pin his ears at horses who walked by "his" mare. After gelding him he chilled out a lot but he still loves those 2 mares and tries to be all big and bad towards any new geldings or studs. He's really good though normally. Gelding him was the best thing because we weren't planning to breed and now he can be in the field with his mares all the time.
If your stud is well-mannered already gelding him should only make him better. |
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