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Location: Bandera, TX | OhMax - 2015-04-04 12:07 PM No round bales here so no biggie there, but I agree I can see where that would be problematic, The stall he's in now is the best option, the set up of the barn is an L with the indoor arena at the end of the short end and the sawdust pile at the end of the long end, so that outside stall is not an option as any breeze will kick up dust. He is currently on the 90* corner where there is a roll up door that'll stay open all summer unless it's raining sideways into it or something. Previously he was about 2/3 of the way up the long side closer to the sawdust pile, so this is an upgrade for sure. I can start riding him again tomorrow as he had his hocks done too and I'm to check in with the vet early next week. If we don't see improvement wih the clenbuterol or he reverts back after the 10 days is up the next step is a trac wash and culture. I want to stress that I trust my vet 100%. We've been working through a number of things over the past 2 years and he hasn't led me wrong yet. He is also one of the local track vets, so I feel I am in very good hands when it comes to breathing issues (he said working in the barns at the track actually give HIM IAD like symptoms). I've seen many folks recommend him on here when asked about central Iowa vets. We talked over a variety of supplement options, but like was said on here as with human asthmatics, what works for one may not work for others, so I have his permission to experiment with the supplements.
Wish all were as fortunate as you to have a guy helpful as he sounds. I have a feeling this is going to be handled well. | |
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| Well poop on a Pringle.
Saturday night was his last dose of clenbuterol. Rode great yesterday. Tonight we had a little cough our first trot and then went to hacking up a storm as soon as we loped - and we had a dose of Airpower before we worked as well.
Vet gets a call first thing in the morning of course.
Anyone has experience with one who needs a maintenance dose of clenbuterol? Side effects? Better alternatives? Still considering equi resp but need to budget to settle down a bit unfortunately. | |
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| OhMax - 2015-04-13 6:40 PM
Well poop on a Pringle.
Saturday night was his last dose of clenbuterol. Rode great yesterday. Tonight we had a little cough our first trot and then went to hacking up a storm as soon as we loped - and we had a dose of Airpower before we worked as well.
Vet gets a call first thing in the morning of course.
Anyone has experience with one who needs a maintenance dose of clenbuterol? Side effects? Better alternatives? Still considering equi resp but need to budget to settle down a bit unfortunately.
What is the vet scoping with, is he going right into the bronchioles, or just into the trachea?
My understanding is not all vets can go into the bronchioles, as the equipment is much more expensive.
If the vet cannot reach the bronchioles, I would find one who can, as this scope will tell you if the lungs are full of mucus.
You will also want a bronchiole lavage, and send it for culture, this will let you know what is growing in the lungs, without this step there is no point of doing anything else IMO until you treat the infection.
I would quit riding the horse for at least a month or two, just to allow the lungs to recover. I have one horse who went into respiratory distress last summer due to forest fires, I still haven't swung a leg on her, as my vet said absolutely no indoor riding as this will cause her to relapse.
You also said your horse is still being stalled indoors, I would be changing this immediately | |
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| Believe you me if I felt I had a better environment for him, he'd be in it. Right now I have 2 options:
1. Turnout board. Dirt lot, dry hay, no grain, supps, or medication unless I can come out and do it. Which unfortunately that pesky job that pays for all this sends me out of state a few times month so I can't Always do it regularly, which is why I board in the first place.
2. Very well ventilated stall, minimal low dust bedding, wetted hay, grain with supplements and any meds the vet has him on and turnout all day.
Of those 2 choices myself, vet, and barn owner agree to work with #2. If I could work 9-5 everyday, never travel, and own 10 acres for him to roam on I would.
At the last visit the vet said a BAL would be the next step so that's already going to happen. I'm also looking into allergy testing per the suggestion of a very kind board member who PM'd me with her similar experience.
Trying not to feel hopeless like another season is shot before it begins. Horse is 16 or 17, I'd like to have one good consistent year on him...
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| OhMax - 2015-04-14 1:08 AM
Believe you me if I felt I had a better environment for him, he'd be in it. Right now I have 2 options:
1. Turnout board. Dirt lot, dry hay, no grain, supps, or medication unless I can come out and do it. Which unfortunately that pesky job that pays for all this sends me out of state a few times month so I can't Always do it regularly, which is why I board in the first place.
2. Very well ventilated stall, minimal low dust bedding, wetted hay, grain with supplements and any meds the vet has him on and turnout all day.
Of those 2 choices myself, vet, and barn owner agree to work with #2. If I could work 9-5 everyday, never travel, and own 10 acres for him to roam on I would.
At the last visit the vet said a BAL would be the next step so that's already going to happen. I'm also looking into allergy testing per the suggestion of a very kind board member who PM'd me with her similar experience.
Trying not to feel hopeless like another season is shot before it begins. Horse is 16 or 17, I'd like to have one good consistent year on him...
In previous posts you said the vet said a tracheal flush was next step
Now you are saying the vet said a bal is the next step, make sure it is a bal, a tracheal flush isn't going to help you | |
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